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Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
just from single player standpoint is what I meant. Trading a terrible contract for an even worse contract with a higher cap hit when all is said and done.
- Big_Lightnin


Lecavalier has a terrible contract but when Luongo is a back-up, he's literally doing nothing. Lecavalier at least has Stanley Cup experience, leadership and is on the ice every game. Lecavalier is also a center, something they need both with Kesler being injured and just a matter of depth even when he's healthy.

better for Lightening for sure. but certainly not Gillis' preference. Think they'd trade Schneider first and reload that way.


The idea of trading Schneider exists for the purpose of not looking like they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. If Gilles starts saying Schneider is on the block to a few GMs, all of sudden whispers around the league aren't saying how desperate Gilles is to trade Luongo.

Luongo wants out and they want Luongo out. It's just a matter of finding the right place to send him at a reasonable price. If they trade Schneider and go back to Luongo, they're going back to the guy they gave up on a year ago. The first sign of trouble and it all comes crumbling down again.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Apr 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
Rinado
- burn

burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
no he's reporting what he thinks is happening.
- Big_Lightnin



People seem to think that when Lebrun says "Fletcher and Nucks asstGM were talking (I'm assuming it about luongo)"


Means Lebrun said that the Leafs and Nucks are talking about Luongo.
toskala4vezina
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.31.2010

Apr 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
Sick of Sestito getting his ass kicked?

Rosehill-McLaren on Thursday?

- Big_Lightnin


Sestito has been playing for the Canucks for around a month now

Zolnier isn't a great player but it baffles me that anyone would ever want to trade for Rosehill... he punches like a girl. Mclaren would pummel him.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 1 @ 5:42 PM ET
No he's reporting a meeting between Fletcher and Nucks assistant GM a week ago to get recent talks started as well as further discussion between Gillis and Nonis..

I understand u not believing any this happening ..For me I see no reason for LeBrun to make this up...

- Fruitcakenipple



Except for the speculation.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
Sestito has been playing for the Canucks for around a month now

Zolnier isn't a great player but it baffles me that anyone would ever want to trade for Rosehill... he punches like a girl. Mclaren would pummel him.

- toskala4vezina



cant wait.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Apr 1 @ 5:43 PM ET
Lecavalier has a terrible contract but when Luongo is a back-up, he's literally doing nothing. Lecavalier at least has Stanley Cup experience, leadership and is on the ice every game. Lecavalier is also a center, something they need both with Kesler being injured and just a matter of depth even when he's healthy.



The idea of trading Schneider exists for the purpose of not looking like they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. If Gilles starts saying Schneider is on the block to a few GMs, all of sudden whispers around the league aren't saying how desperate Gilles is to trade Luongo.

Luongo wants out and they want Luongo out. It's just a matter of finding the right place to send him at a reasonable price. If they trade Schneider and go back to Luongo, they're going back to the guy they gave up on a year ago. The first sign of trouble and it all comes crumbling down again.

- Two_For_Truth


all fair points...

but trading for Lecavalier might get Gillis set on fire in front of Rogers center.

Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:44 PM ET
People seem to think that when Lebrun says "Fletcher and Nucks asstGM were talking (I'm assuming it about luongo)"


Means Lebrun said that the Leafs and Nucks are talking about Luongo.

- burn



Thats exactly what Lebrun said...It's involves talks about Luongo..Dont believe LeBrun than fine/ and understandable....His claim is that it was about Luongo..
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:44 PM ET
cant wait.
- burn

Rosehill has an awesome right cross...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:45 PM ET
Except for the speculation.
- burn



Like i said if u dont believe Lebrun than fine...
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Apr 1 @ 5:45 PM ET
Sestito has been playing for the Canucks for around a month now

Zolnier isn't a great player but it baffles me that anyone would ever want to trade for Rosehill... he punches like a girl. Mclaren would pummel him.

- toskala4vezina


ya brain-farted there...

couldn't be bothered to check it.
Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:46 PM ET
Like i said if u dont believe Lebrun than fine...
- Fruitcakenipple

Look who's coming to Philly...

toskala4vezina
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 08.31.2010

Apr 1 @ 5:46 PM ET
ya brain-farted there...

couldn't be bothered to check it.

- Big_Lightnin


I'm afraid I have no choice but to report you due to your error...
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 1 @ 5:46 PM ET
Thats exactly what Lebrun said...It's involves talks about Luongo..Dont believe LeBrun than fine/ and understandable....His claim is that it was about Luongo..
- Fruitcakenipple



Right, he speculated it was about lou and people think because he said it it's true.


People need to slow down and read what is written. "I think/Believe it's about Luongo" turns into Lebrun said that are talking about Luong, when that's not what he wrote.
blahman20
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Lindsay, ON
Joined: 03.02.2007

Apr 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
I wouldn't mind a guy like Robidas, he only has one year left on his contract at 3.3 Cap Hit, 2.8Mil actual money. Not going to give up a lot to get him, but something like a 2nd/3rd rounder C level prospect perhaps.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 1 @ 5:47 PM ET
Rosehill has an awesome right cross...
- Flyfreaky



I've seen him plenty with the Leafs/MArlies.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
Look who's coming to Philly...


- Flyfreaky



burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 1 @ 5:48 PM ET
Like i said if u dont believe Lebrun than fine...
- Fruitcakenipple



Never said I don't believe him.... I'm just not making stuff up.


Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.20.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:51 PM ET
I've seen him plenty with the Leafs/MArlies.
- burn

Who did he light up?
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 1 @ 5:51 PM ET
all fair points...

but trading for Lecavalier might get Gillis set on fire in front of Rogers center.

- Big_Lightnin


Not until after they get eliminated from the playoffs.

How many Canucks fans would be enraged by a Lecavalier and Garon for Luongo and Ballard trade?
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Apr 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
Who did he light up?
- Flyfreaky



He had a few beauties, but can't recall of the top of my head.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:53 PM ET
Not until after they get eliminated from the playoffs.

How many Canucks fans would be enraged by a Lecavalier and Garon for Luongo and Ballard trade?

- Two_For_Truth


Why would they be enraged? They get another top notch centerman and get rid of ballard Thats more power for offense instead of luu sitting on the bench. Id be happy for that trade if i was a nucks fan
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Apr 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
Like i said if u dont believe Lebrun than fine...
- Fruitcakenipple


oh I believe when he the Cannucks flew someone to Arizone to meet with Fletcher (where he lives). I also believe when he says Gillis called Nonis to further discussions. Both actions of a GM desparate to trade a player he's having difficulty trading.

but I still think Nonis' end of the conversation was him saying "no thanks" a lot.

Lebrun saying they are discussing trade doesn't in any way mean the Leafs want to make that trade.

Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 1 @ 5:54 PM ET
Never said I don't believe him.... I'm just not making stuff up.
- burn



This is what he was claiming..

"Last week in Phoenix when the Canucks were in town there, Vancouver assistant GM Laurence Gilman met with his old pal and mentor Cliff Fletcher, senior adviser with the Leafs. Those two guys talk all the time but, on this occasion, Fletcher revisited the Luongo dialogue with Gilman.

That conversation between Gilman and Fletcher sparked Vancouver GM Mike Gillis to follow up and phone Toronto GM Dave Nonis this past week to further explore those talks.

This in itself is a story because Gillis and Nonis, I don’t believe, have ever spoken to each other regarding any trade, as some ill will existed after the former replaced the latter as GM in Vancouver. Usually it’s been other members of each front office communicating on Luongo, not Gillis and Nonis straight on. So that’s perhaps an important shift in this story.

Gillis and Nonis spoke this week and, while there’s no deal that’s imminent and there may never be a deal, it certainly appears there’s groundwork built here for the two teams to keep tabs on this until Wednesday
."

Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Apr 1 @ 5:55 PM ET
Not until after they get eliminated from the playoffs.

How many Canucks fans would be enraged by a Lecavalier and Garon for Luongo and Ballard trade?

- Two_For_Truth


I dunno - let's go test it out in Esplen's thread shall we
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