He was also 4 years younger. Poor form TFT, poor form.
- mykokes

Goal scorers tend to do worse as they age.

Chara-Seids is too good of a combo they only use it in the playoffs if ever. They need to spread the depth. I thought it was interesting the past two games they were playing Chara on Kadri outside of the PP.

Also i know, I just wanted to check and post Kessel's stats on the B's...holy (frank) they are quite appalling
- AdamFrench

yup...


I don't think the Chara-KAdri matchup was Julien's doing. That happened more when Carlyle was trying to get Kessel away from him.

82pts in 82 games last year, with no centre
- AngryWhiteMale

With a wide open, run and gun system that created more rushes which is where Kessel is most effective.

Improving the center allows him to score more effectively in a defensive system. It doesn't automatically make him a 100 point player.

Think you guys are forgetting how few 100 point players there really are. Even Stamkos didn't break 100 last year with 60 goals and playing with St. Louis and yet Kessel would?

Goal scorers tend to do worse as they age.
- Two_For_Truth

over 30, sure.

At 21 years old.

You're welcome.
- Two_For_Truth

As a 20 year old actually.... you VF welcome

MAR 25 '13 TOR @ BOS 0 0 0 -1
MAR 23 '13 BOS @ TOR 0 0 0 -1
MAR 7 '13 TOR @ BOS 0 0 0 -2
FEB 2 '13 BOS @ TOR 0 0 0 0

MAR 19 '12 TOR @ BOS 0 0 0 -2
MAR 6 '12 BOS @ TOR 1 1 2 -2
DEC 3 '11 TOR @ BOS 0 0 0 -2
NOV 30 '11 BOS @ TOR 0 1 1 -3
NOV 5 '11 BOS @ TOR 0 0 0 -1
OCT 20 '11 TOR @ BOS 0 0 0 -1

MAR 31 '11 TOR @ BOS 0 2 2 1
MAR 19 '11 BOS @ TOR 0 1 1 0
FEB 15 '11 TOR @ BOS 2 0 2 -2
JAN 3 '11 BOS @ TOR 0 0 0 0
DEC 4 '10 BOS @ TOR 0 0 0 0
OCT 28 '10 TOR @ BOS 0 0 0 -1

I'll take your word for it.
- AdamFrench

Whatever you do, don't put up Seguin's and Hamilton's numbers.

Says in the article that Louon8o was disappointed when the deal fell through because he would have accepted the deal to Toronto if he had known.
- Leafland

where is the article?

As a 20 year old actually.... you VF welcome
- jribout

Nope, he turned 21 shortly after the season started. I can tell you used hockeydb.com.

where is the article?
- bobbyisno1

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...e-no-trade-to-join-leafs/

Kessel was 40 points shy of 100 when he played with Savard.
- Two_For_Truth

This was also in 70 games, so at the least lets prorate it to 70 points in an 82 game season, as a 21 year old. Pretty impressive

Thank god the Leafs did well enough down the stretch to keep Nonis' itchy trigger finger at bay.

I wouldn't mind Kipper for the next couple years as Reimer fills out(Remember, Kipper's played 70+ games each of the last 10 years)

Luongo, on the other hand, would be fatal for us long-term

yup...


I don't think the Chara-KAdri matchup was Julien's doing. That happened more when Carlyle was trying to get Kessel away from him.
- Big_Lightnin

At least the scoring depth is finally working out.

(frank) a top-6 bottom-6, glad they're growing up to the new NHL where teams have a top-9

Goal scorers tend to do worse as they age.
- Two_For_Truth

As they get beyond their prime, yes. Not when they're still a couple of years from entering it.

Kessel was 40 points shy of 100 when he played with Savard.
- Two_For_Truth

He was also only 21.

over 30, sure.
- Big_Lightnin

If Ovechkin can go from 50-60 goals down to 30 goals before he reaches 30 years old with Backstrom as his center, so can Kessel.

With a wide open, run and gun system that created more rushes which is where Kessel is most effective.

Improving the center allows him to score more effectively in a defensive system. It doesn't automatically make him a 100 point player.

Think you guys are forgetting how few 100 point players there really are. Even Stamkos didn't break 100 last year with 60 goals and playing with St. Louis and yet Kessel would?
- Two_For_Truth

part of the assumption is that a PPG center would presumably help reduce (or ideally eliminate) Kessel long cold streaks.

where is the article?
- bobbyisno1

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...e-no-trade-to-join-leafs/

If Ovechkin can go from 50-60 goals down to 30 goals before he reaches 30 years old with Backstrom as his center, so can Kessel.
- Two_For_Truth

maybe it's Backstrom who's slumping


jk

Thank god the Leafs did well enough down the stretch to keep Nonis' itchy trigger finger at bay.

I wouldn't mind Kipper for the next couple years as Reimer fills out(Remember, Kipper's played 70+ games each of the last 10 years)

Luongo, on the other hand, would be fatal for us long-term
- AngryWhiteMale

With a wide open, run and gun system that created more rushes which is where Kessel is most effective.

Improving the center allows him to score more effectively in a defensive system. It doesn't automatically make him a 100 point player.

Think you guys are forgetting how few 100 point players there really are. Even Stamkos didn't break 100 last year with 60 goals and playing with St. Louis and yet Kessel would?
- Two_For_Truth

He is pretty much ppg this year....

As they get beyond their prime, yes. Not when they're still a couple of years from entering it.
- lumlums

He's already in his goal scoring prime. Usually, hitting 30 marks the beginning of the decline, if not earlier. See, Ovechkin.

- Leafland

Don't read too much into it....

If Ovechkin can go from 50-60 goals down to 30 goals before he reaches 30 years old with Backstrom as his center, so can Kessel.
- Two_For_Truth

This corresponds very closely with him starting to date Maria Kirilenko. And if I knew that this girl was waiting for me at home, my mind might be elsewhere too...



If Milbury has taught us anything, it's to blame the wives and girlfriends

Whatever you do, don't put up Seguin's and Hamilton's numbers.
- Two_For_Truth

Why would we put up their #'s they've never been leafs

We going to put up every player from every trade or just the 1's that people think we lost?

part of the assumption is that a PPG center would presumably help reduce (or ideally eliminate) Kessel long cold streaks.
- Big_Lightnin

Kessel's cold streaks are mostly his own fault. He becomes disinterested and lacks focus. Same reason van Riemsdyk started off the season strong and big surprise, has pretty much disappeared for the other half of the season.