He's no Lupul, that's for sure.
- mykokes

Lupul isnt even Lupul lately.

Never said that but IMO that's what I'd argue.
- honesthockey

oh ya and that's his agents Job and he's got every right to ask for it.

He just shouldn't have a hissy fit when Nonis tells him the sky is blue, grass is green, and he's not worth a nickel more than $3.5M a year

He's not worth close to $5M
- Big_Lightnin

I'd agree if I was only looking at point production. Not gonna be what his agent argues.

Lupul isnt even Lupul lately.
- Bigzby

How far back does lately go? Since the beginning of the 2011/2012 season?

oh ya and that's his agents Job and he's got every right to ask for it.

He just shouldn't have a hissy fit when Nonis tells him the sky is blue, grass is green, and he's not worth a nickel more than $3.5M a year
- Big_Lightnin

Would you consider him more valuable then Grabovski?

Lupul isnt even Lupul lately.
- Bigzby

took Carlyle's "he better score a 100 goals" comment to heart

took Carlyle's "he better score a 100 goals" comment to heart
- Big_Lightnin

He should have picked an easier year than a 48 game season to do that.

Was that what that was?
- honesthockey

See my previous post

Would you consider him more valuable then Grabovski?
- honesthockey

not really relevant. He doesn't have the leverage Grabo had - nobody was on deck stealing Grabo's job.

but to answer your question - no. I'm damn near certain that if you swapped them the rest of the year Grabo would go close to PPG.

But not everyone feels that way.

Grabo's not having a good year, but on the whole, the only thing he doesn't do better than Bozak is win faceoffs.

not really relevant. He doesn't have the leverage Grabo had - nobody was on deck stealing Grabo's job.

but to answer your question - no. I'm damn near certain that if you swapped them the rest of the year Grabo would go close to PPG.

But not everyone feels that way.

Grabo's not having a great year, but on the whole, the only thing he doesn't do better than Bozak is win faceoffs.
- Big_Lightnin

It's gonna be relevant to his agent. Kill penalty's? And the big one, play will with Kessel?

I'd agree if I was only looking at point production. Not gonna be what his agent argues.
- honesthockey

I'd counter and say simply, well Bozie and Mr. Agent your client's line sure dried up when Lupul was hurt last year......and it seems to me you were the one actually holding Lupul back in terms of his offense, plus you've been a minus player every year of your career, what's up with that?

I'd probably tell Bozak's agent he tries to pass to Kessel too much and is much better player when he tries to score himself.

took Carlyle's "he better score a 100 goals" comment to heart
- Big_Lightnin

So how the hell is he gonna manage that if he keeps passing to that no-good, shoot-first, never-dream-of-passing, glory hound Kadri???

not really relevant. He doesn't have the leverage Grabo had - nobody was on deck stealing Grabo's job.

but to answer your question - no. I'm damn near certain that if you swapped them the rest of the year Grabo would go close to PPG.

But not everyone feels that way.

Grabo's not having a great year, but on the whole, the only thing he doesn't do better than Bozak is win faceoffs.
- Big_Lightnin

Bozak may take discount to stay in toronto - team he gets traded to probably sticks him on 3rd line. no?

I'd counter and say simply, well Bozie and Mr. Agent your client's line sure dried up when Lupul was hurt last year......and it seems to me you were the one actually holding Lupul back in terms of his offense, plus you've been a minus player every year of your career, what's up with that?

I'd probably tell Bozak's agent he tries to pass to Kessel too much and is much better player when he tries to score himself.
- mykokes

Lost me at point 1. Kessel kept on racking up points when Lupul went down last year.

took Carlyle's "he better score a 100 goals" comment to heart
- Big_Lightnin

I was thinking the same thing.. he's playing like a man possessed...
big boost for the leafers

Bozak may take discount to stay in toronto - team he gets traded to probably sticks him on 3rd line. no?
- Garnie

As will we eventually... but for now, he's what we have.

So how the hell is he gonna manage that if he keeps passing to that no-good, shoot-first, never-dream-of-passing, glory hound Kadri???
- lumlums

What? Kadri has been scoring and also making great setups....no?

So how the hell is he gonna manage that if he keeps passing to that no-good, shoot-first, never-dream-of-passing, glory hound Kadri???
- lumlums

Bust

What? Kadri has been scoring and also making great setups....no?
- Garnie

Sarcasm good sir

What? Kadri has been scoring and also making great setups....no?
- Garnie

Yes, but no way in hell that Lups will hit 100 goals if he keeps getting all those first assists instead

As will we eventually... but for now, he's what we have.
- lumlums

Great for face offs - I think we need a d move and keep the forwards as is - for this year!!!!

Yes, but no way in hell that Lups will hit 100 goals if he keeps getting all those first assists instead
- lumlums

Ahhhhhh my bad, too much coffee!!,

It's gonna be relevant to his agent. Kill penalty's? And the big one, play will with Kessel?
- honesthockey

29 GM's won't care about that and the one who might won't be able to pay him more than 3 or so unless he can move Grabovski.

Lost me at point 1. Kessel kept on racking up points when Lupul went down last year.
- honesthockey

Actually lol

In the 16 gp to finish the season without Lupul, Kessel had 4 goals, 12 points and was a minus 8.

Bozak may take discount to stay in toronto - team he gets traded to probably sticks him on 3rd line. no?
- Garnie

probably 2nd... and somebody desparate may very well give him $4M a year. Leafs better not though.

Grabo being overpaid means Bozak won't be... it's not a reason he should be.