87pts in a 114 playoff games hardly a " Proven Playoff Bust"...
- Fruitcakenipple

"He got all those points after his team was all ready down 3 games to none, before losing in 7" - Haters.

San Jose looking to tank sitting in 6th with 14 games to go?

come on man, use your head. He's not available.

and for that matter, he's not a good fit. He can't keep up with Kessel/JVR/Lupul
- Big_Lightnin

They get a 2nd line centre and top pairing D-man with speed which is what they could use.. Not exactly sure that's tanking...

LD vs RD
- Big_Lightnin

Doesn't matter, Dion prefers his off-side

Since it's going to be slow around here for the next few days, I'm just going to toss this out there:

Jonas Gustavsson is 2-2-1 with an .879 sv% and 2.92 GAA.

I guess there's one player we didn't get burned by.

They get a 2nd line centre and top pairing D-man with speed which is what they could use.. Not exactly sure that's tanking...
- Lindross_88

trading their leading point getter and arguably best player heading into playoffs is gearing up then?

Doesn't matter, Dion prefers his off-side
- lumlums

Carlyle doesn't

trading their leading point getter and arguably best player heading into playoffs is gearing up then?


- Big_Lightnin

But they'd be getting Bozak (number 1C), McKegg and others back... seems too legit to not accept!

Some people just don't do any research


- faceto27

Probably similar to the people who insist Kessel will "disappear" in the playoffs.

They hear a media narrative so much that they don't bother to research it themselves.

Carlyle doesn't
- Big_Lightnin

Pffft. He's a bum. Who really listens to what he says anyway?

why do so called "analysts" insist that Tyler Bozak, who has never cracked 50 pts despite playing with 2 guys who were PPG last year, and 2 who are close to that this year (combined) will be in the line for close to $5M a year???

(frank)ing retarded.
- Big_Lightnin

If I'm his agent I'm saying my client is on one of the top producing lines in the NHL last season and the top producing on the team again this year.

Probably similar to the people who insist Kessel will "disappear" in the playoffs.

They hear a media narrative so much that they don't bother to research it themselves.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Life's better when you don't do your own thinking... leaves more time for Reddit, facebook and hockeybuzz

Pffft. He's a bum. Who really listens to what he says anyway?
- lumlums

Certainly not Jake Gardiner.

Uh oh. Now I've gone and opened a can of worms.

Probably similar to the people who insist Kessel will "disappear" in the playoffs.

They hear a media narrative so much that they don't bother to research it themselves.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Kessel point production increased 25% in playoffs

Thornton's for his career has decreased 25%, and he's gone from a huge + player to huge - player.

it's not exactly a fictional argument.

If I'm his agent I'm saying my client is on one of the top producing lines in the NHL last season and the top producing on the team again this year.
- honesthockey

Yup. If only they gave 3rd and 4th assist points then he'd be challenging Gretzky

Certainly not Jake Gardiner.

Uh oh. Now I've gone and opened a can of worms.
- Leeman4Gilmour

ZING!!!!

Yup. If only they gave 3rd and 4th assist points then he'd be challenging Gretzky
- lumlums

Your point is???

Kessel point production increased 25% in playoffs

Thornton's for his career has decreased 25%, and he's gone from a huge + player to huge - player.

it's not exactly a fictional argument.
- Big_Lightnin

Oh yeah, there is merit to it.

I just think it's a little overblown by pundits who insist on trying to find a story to tell at all times.

Thornton = gutless, massive choke-artist is a compelling story.

considerable drop-off from his reg season production though

also -26 playoffs... +156 reg season...
- Big_Lightnin

Sure but a long ways from a proven bust..

If I'm his agent I'm saying my client is on one of the top producing lines in the NHL last season and the top producing on the team again this year.
- honesthockey

And if I'm Nonis I say "I wonder how much more they would have produced if they had a center who was any good?"

Bozak's not my "Gardiner." I don't hate him. I don't even hate him as the 1C. But no way in hell are you going to sit here and tell me he's worth close to $5M a year and not have 4 or 5 of us get banned due to the ensuing ridicule.

Your point is???
- honesthockey

... that not everybody understands the subtle nuance of dry humour.

... that not everybody understands the subtle nuance of dry humour.
- lumlums

subtle is a funny looking word.

Your point is???
- honesthockey

He's not worth close to $5M

And if I'm Nonis I say "I wonder how much more they would have produced if they had a center who was any good?"

Bozak's not my "Gardiner." I don't hate him. I don't even hate him as the 1C. But no way in hell are you going to sit here and tell me he's worth close to $5M a year and not have 4 or 5 of us get banned in due to the ensuing ridicule.
- Big_Lightnin

Never said that but IMO that's what I'd argue.

He's not worth close to $5M
- Big_Lightnin

He's no Lupul, that's for sure.

... that not everybody understands the subtle nuance of dry humour.
- lumlums

Was that what that was?