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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: Game 34: MON 3 NYR 0, Have they Hit Rock Bottom?
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 31 @ 11:00 AM ET
From snyrangersblog.com..... "7:12AM: Larry Brooks writes in the NY Post that the Rangers would take Clowe for a package of player like Brian Boyle and a third round pick."...... Never gonna happen if thats all they offer, ill drive Boyle to the airport for free, but one can dream right?
- pcjr307

I really like Clowe but he's been below average this year. You shouldn't part with Boyle for him. He's a free agent next year anyway.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 31 @ 11:02 AM ET
Both are under contract past 2014 season, aren't they? The Rangers have so many player contracts to restructure they really can't afford to acquire anymore. Only way they can take another big contract is by shipping out an equally big contract.
- MidnightMarauder

Give away Gaborik and try to add Stastny (the easier one to get). Pavelski can be had for something. He's been struggling a bit lately.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:07 AM ET
It has to be me, but I would think a team set to break a record once held by the same frasnhise, for most consecutive wins, would be a major talking point. Not only that, but they just added 3 pretty good players for scarps, a 1st round pick and a pretty good prospect. Yet they are over here talking about 1%, bandwagoners and whatever else. I don't get it. Somebody explain it to me.


- tomburton99


Let me explain... He's not a Pens fan. Never seen him on our board.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 11:10 AM ET
From snyrangersblog.com..... "7:12AM: Larry Brooks writes in the NY Post that the Rangers would take Clowe for a package of player like Brian Boyle and a third round pick."...... Never gonna happen if thats all they offer, ill drive Boyle to the airport for free, but one can dream right?
- pcjr307


Ya I think 29 other teams would beat that offer.

Trouble is there is not a lot of quality being offered up by teams right now. Its all spare parts or pending UFA's.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Mar 31 @ 11:10 AM ET
Let me explain... He's not a Pens fan. Never seen him on our board.
- madmike71



You guys are ok in my book, despite me not liking your team on the whole.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 31 @ 11:11 AM ET
I'm in the Denny's in maryland right now on the way to VA and man I stick out like a sore thumb here. Kinda like joe Pesci in my cousin vinny

Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:14 AM ET
Ya I think 29 other teams would beat that offer.

Trouble is there is not a lot of quality being offered up by teams right now. Its all spare parts or pending UFA's.

- Iggysbff

29 teams? Well lets do the math again
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Mar 31 @ 11:15 AM ET
Rock bottom? Not even close, either them or Carolina is going to get the eighth seed this season.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:18 AM ET
Rock bottom? Not even close, either them or Carolina is going to get the eighth seed this season.
- Thehabsfan93

Which means if the Rangers miss, they hit rock bottom.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Mar 31 @ 11:21 AM ET
Give away Gaborik and try to add Stastny (the easier one to get). Pavelski can be had for something. He's been struggling a bit lately.
- Orpik44



SJS basically has two untouchables: Pavelski and Couture

you'd better be willing to pony up if you plan on getting either one of those
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:22 AM ET
SJS basically has two untouchables: Pavelski and Couture

you'd better be willing to pony up if you plan on getting either one of those

- FourFeathers773

Agreed
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Mar 31 @ 11:24 AM ET
Which means if the Rangers miss, they hit rock bottom.
- tomburton99

Well I could see Tortorella getting fired if they miss the playoffs because they don't have a first round pick, Nash has been the best player by far except for Lundqvist.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:24 AM ET
SJS basically has two untouchables: Pavelski and Couture

you'd better be willing to pony up if you plan on getting either one of those

- FourFeathers773

Not true. Thornton has a NMC, Marleau has a NMC, Havlat has a NMC. By my count that's 5 players San jose plan/forced to keep. Clowe, Boyle and Handzus all have NTC. Doubt Boyle or Handzus are willing to waive them. Count is now up to 7 or 8.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:25 AM ET
Well I could see Tortorella getting fired if they miss the playoffs because they don't have a first round pick, Nash has been the best player by far except for Lundqvist.
- Thehabsfan93

Lavoie said his job was safe. Guy is usually right.
Bieksa#3
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.21.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:26 AM ET
Not true. Thornton has a NMC, Marleau has a NMC, Havlat has a NMC. By my count that's 5 players San jose plan/forced to keep. Clowe, Boyle and Handzus all have NTC. Doubt Boyle or Handzus are willing to waive them. Count is now up to 7 or 8.
- tomburton99

clever
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:29 AM ET
clever
- Bieksa#3

Seriously, if you think any of those players would be willing to leave San Jose then I would call you crazy. Players who negotiate NMC as part of their contracts rarely waive them. Iggy comes to mind, but that's about it.
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Mar 31 @ 11:29 AM ET
Not true. Thornton has a NMC, Marleau has a NMC, Havlat has a NMC. By my count that's 5 players San jose plan/forced to keep. Clowe, Boyle and Handzus all have NTC. Doubt Boyle or Handzus are willing to waive them. Count is now up to 7 or 8.
- tomburton99


you're missing my point. sjs would be willing to ask any of those guys you mentioned to waive their NTC/NMC.

Couture and Pavelski are untouchable because they are coveted by the organization

For example, I would say Ryan McDonagh is WAYYYY more untouchable for the Rangers than Gaborik is. And gabby has a NTC and McDonagh doesnt
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Mar 31 @ 11:31 AM ET
You guys are ok in my book, despite me not liking your team on the whole.
- MidnightMarauder


Ditto.

From an outsiders perspective, you're team has either quit on Torts or they're playing like they're afraid to make mistakes. Hardline coaches always wear out their welcome.......especially with players that have more money than God.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 31 @ 11:34 AM ET
you're missing my point. sjs would be willing to ask any of those guys you mentioned to waive their NTC/NMC.

Couture and Pavelski are untouchable because they are coveted by the organization

For example, I would say Ryan McDonagh is WAYYYY more untouchable for the Rangers than Gaborik is. And gabby has a NTC and McDonagh doesnt

- FourFeathers773

And none of them would. I agree Gaborik isn't worth a top 6 player in return. So the idea of trading him for one is just blissful ignorance.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Mar 31 @ 11:35 AM ET
Ditto.

From an outsiders perspective, you're team has either quit on Torts or they're playing like they're afraid to make mistakes. Hardline coaches always wear out their welcome.......especially with players that have more money than God.

- madmike71



I think it's a little bit of both. The big tickets likely tune him out and the young players walk on eggshells because those are the ones Tortorella can still intimidate.

Regardless, this team is in a really bad spot. Underwhelming output on the ice and a coach that seemingly has lost his group.
TrueBlue9182
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 02.04.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:39 AM ET
Happy easter boys.

Jan i disagree, I think we should sell at the deadline try to move gaborik, boyle, and maybe pyatt while keeping the core guys. If you can create a package that will get us back a first round pick, even better.

We just arent that good this year and one or two players are going to make this team a contender sadly.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 31 @ 11:45 AM ET
I think it's a little bit of both. The big tickets likely tune him out and the young players walk on eggshells because those are the ones Tortorella can still intimidate.

Regardless, this team is in a really bad spot. Underwhelming output on the ice and a coach that seemingly has lost his group.

- MidnightMarauder


So whats the problem with Richards? I thought he loved Torts and was a big reason why he signed there?

He's probably the biggest ubder-acheiver this year in the league. (well one of the biggest)
FourFeathers773
Joined: 12.02.2011

Mar 31 @ 11:48 AM ET
So whats the problem with Richards? I thought he loved Torts and was a big reason why he signed there?

He's probably the biggest ubder-acheiver this year in the league. (well one of the biggest)

- Iggysbff


The guy with the $20 million dollar salary and scoring at a 45 point per full season pace is by far the biggest under acheiver in NY this year
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Mar 31 @ 11:51 AM ET
The guy with the $20 million dollar salary and scoring at a 45 point per full season pace is by far the biggest under acheiver in NY this year
- FourFeathers773

naah gabby might have that title.
MidnightMarauder
New York Rangers
Location: My own bubble, YT
Joined: 04.02.2007

Mar 31 @ 11:54 AM ET
So whats the problem with Richards? I thought he loved Torts and was a big reason why he signed there?

He's probably the biggest ubder-acheiver this year in the league. (well one of the biggest)

- Iggysbff


He misses Olivia Munn, I know I would.

In all seriousness I think Richards is fragile psychologically. He got off to a bad start, the team has been terrible and I feel he is not able to handle either. So much was expected from him and the team and both came up horribly short thus far.
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