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BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:45 PM ET
Post more Garth, we sometimes get mad when you don't.
- SABRES 89

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 6:46 PM ET
I just want to give you guys some perspective, if I may.
In 2010, the Flyers traded Gagne who was fresh off of posting 12 points in 19 playoff games. He had 1 year left until UFA status. The return was Matt Walker and a 4th. I know TDL deals bring greater returns, but this isn't NHL 13, and no teams fighting for a playoff spot that makes a deadline deal is going to give you a player that will weaken them going into the playoffs. So teams like Anaheim, NYI, LA, Columbus, and Edmonton probably aren't looking to move key pieces.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:47 PM ET
Weren't you also the guy pumping his chest before the season about the Sabres showing the Flyers that this Sabres team was for real? I doubt your foresight.
- jmatchett383

We DID dominate you guys in our first game... so... he's 1/2 right.
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:47 PM ET
Weren't you also the guy pumping his chest before the season about the Sabres showing the Flyers that this Sabres team was for real? I doubt your foresight.
- jmatchett383

You can doubt whatever you like my friend.

It's all good.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:47 PM ET
I just want to give you guys some perspective, if I may.
In 2010, the Flyers traded Gagne who was fresh off of posting 12 points in 19 playoff games. He had 1 year left until UFA status. The return was Matt Walker and a 4th. I know TDL deals bring greater returns, but this isn't NHL 13, and no teams fighting for a playoff spot that makes a deadline deal is going to give you a player that will weaken them going into the playoffs. So teams like Anaheim, NYI, LA, Columbus, and Edmonton probably aren't looking to move key pieces.

- jmatchett383


Thanks for that
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
I just want to give you guys some perspective, if I may.
In 2010, the Flyers traded Gagne who was fresh off of posting 12 points in 19 playoff games. He had 1 year left until UFA status. The return was Matt Walker and a 4th. I know TDL deals bring greater returns, but this isn't NHL 13, and no teams fighting for a playoff spot that makes a deadline deal is going to give you a player that will weaken them going into the playoffs. So teams like Anaheim, NYI, LA, Columbus, and Edmonton probably aren't looking to move key pieces.

- jmatchett383

That's why we're sellers. We're trading guys for picks/prospects,not key players.
PoileRulezzzYo
Nashville Predators
Location: #Where'sDavidPoileHiding?
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
Forgot about him... 22 is nice and he has better stats than Blum... solid find
- LetsGoBuffalo75


Josi has been a beast...pretty excited about his future.
FIREonICE
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Darcys Playground, NY
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
Pommer can bring Bobby Ryan, you agree?
- SABRES 89


i (frank)ing hope so!
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:50 PM ET
Josi has been a beast...pretty excited about his future.
- PoileRulezzzYo

...But we want him...
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
Josi has been a beast...pretty excited about his future.
- PoileRulezzzYo


Want Pomminville?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
Anyone else think that we were trying to do a bigger deal with stl for goalies or sfewart or oshie... but couldn't agree so just settled for the rental for picks trade?
- JVince11


We got a good look at their goalies when they played w Montreal n Ottawa... I'm gonna guess we aren't very interested...
The time to trade for Stewart has prob passed... We likely could've had him at a reasonable price before the season, but now that he's doing so well it's gonna cost us to get him...
And I doubt they trade any roster players till the offseason since they wanna make a run
Maybe an early exit & they'll jump in on the Miller sweepstakes
I can't imagine they'd trade Backes, with w him having such an awful season, if it were ever gonna happen it would be now
But they have plenty of young talent I like
Miller for Stewart + + ?
I could see that happen
BuffaloHardHat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity., NY
Joined: 11.27.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
I just want to give you guys some perspective, if I may.
In 2010, the Flyers traded Gagne who was fresh off of posting 12 points in 19 playoff games. He had 1 year left until UFA status. The return was Matt Walker and a 4th. I know TDL deals bring greater returns, but this isn't NHL 13, and no teams fighting for a playoff spot that makes a deadline deal is going to give you a player that will weaken them going into the playoffs. So teams like Anaheim, NYI, LA, Columbus, and Edmonton probably aren't looking to move key pieces.

- jmatchett383

You do realize this is the year 2013 right?
You do realize that other teams that feel they are close as well have seen what Pittsburgh is trying to do?
You do realize what the Penguins have done for teams like Buffalo (sellers with some attractive veteran pieces) right now right?
This could very well be a fantastic trade deadline for the Sabres if Darcy plays his hands right.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 6:52 PM ET
That's why we're sellers. We're trading guys for picks/prospects,not key players.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


This was in response to anyone thinking they'll get anything of great value from a team like LA, or Edmonton, or Anaheim...or, getting a better return for a 500+ goal scoring captain for a 60 point-per-year captain (who's been dissed on here over nad over again) with 1 year left. Pittsburgh got arguably the best captain in the NHL for 2 college kids and a 1st. Don't expect any rosters players or backup goalies coming back from playoff teams.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
Canisius looking pretty decent going for the upset...
Lead 2-1 over Quinnipac late in 2nd
It's on NESN, 628 if u get DirectTV
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
This was in response to anyone thinking they'll get anything of great value from a team like LA, or Edmonton, or Anaheim...or, getting a better return for a 500+ goal scoring captain for a 60 point-per-year captain (who's been dissed on here over nad over again) with 1 year left. Pittsburgh got arguably the best captain in the NHL for 2 college kids and a 1st. Don't expect any rosters players or backup goalies coming back from playoff teams.
- jmatchett383


Thanks for the wisdom.
FIREonICE
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Darcys Playground, NY
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:53 PM ET
I just want to give you guys some perspective, if I may.
In 2010, the Flyers traded Gagne who was fresh off of posting 12 points in 19 playoff games. He had 1 year left until UFA status. The return was Matt Walker and a 4th. I know TDL deals bring greater returns, but this isn't NHL 13, and no teams fighting for a playoff spot that makes a deadline deal is going to give you a player that will weaken them going into the playoffs. So teams like Anaheim, NYI, LA, Columbus, and Edmonton probably aren't looking to move key pieces.

- jmatchett383


also, some of that perspective might be remembering that they traded gagne because they had cap problems, emergence of rookies, and a stacked team, right?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 30 @ 6:54 PM ET
You do realize this is the year 2013 right?
You do realize that other teams that feel they are closeas well have seen what Pittsburgh is trying to do?
You do realize what the Penguins have done for teams like Buffalo (sellers with some attractive veteran pieces) right now right?
This could very well be a fantastic trade deadline for the Sabres if Darcy plays his hands right.

- BuffaloHardHat


No, I was unaware of the year, thanks for the reminder.
So your proposed LA deal...what happens in they trade Bernier to the Sabres and Quick gets injured? On paper it's a fine deal, but any playoff team, or team close to the playoffs, are looking to add players, not swap them.
If you want to trade them all for picks, or keep them and trade in the offseason, that's different.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:55 PM ET
This was in response to anyone thinking they'll get anything of great value from a team like LA, or Edmonton, or Anaheim...or, getting a better return for a 500+ goal scoring captain for a 60 point-per-year captain (who's been dissed on here over nad over again) with 1 year left. Pittsburgh got arguably the best captain in the NHL for 2 college kids and a 1st. Don't expect any rosters players or backup goalies coming back from playoff teams.
- jmatchett383

All the stuff we've said about guys like Ryan, Bernier, etc. obviously aren't going to happen at trade deadline... (If they happen at all). Most of us are expecting guys like Miller to go at the draft for roster guys.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Mar 30 @ 6:56 PM ET
LA Kings scout is here right now.

Regehr getting serious consideration from Pittsburgh, who have two scouts here right now. Replacing Paul Martin is a priority for Shero

- garth


How is Pitt fitting all this under the cap?!
Jesus... Their GM is a friggen genius
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Mar 30 @ 6:56 PM ET
also, some of that perspective might be remembering that they traded gagne because they had cap problems, emergence of rookies, and a stacked team, right?
- FIREonICE


Also important: Gagne was done as a contributing player to the top 6 and as soft as tissue paper.
PoileRulezzzYo
Nashville Predators
Location: #Where'sDavidPoileHiding?
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 30 @ 6:57 PM ET
Want Pomminville?
- Cheeseballin


Not really...our blueline sucks past our first pairing..losing Josi would be pretty terrible at this point.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Mar 30 @ 6:58 PM ET
How is Pitt fitting all this under the cap?!
Jesus... Their GM is a friggen genius

- jdfitz77

I'd say it's largely because of Crosby taking a MASSIVE discount. He's getting only 8.7 million when he should be getting 15.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Mar 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
He was always going to get a 2nd. Murray's trade helped Leo fetch more than just a 2nd. The 5th turns into a 4th if they win a playoff series. I'm okay with that.
- theblueandgold


I didnt think he'd get a second, I guess you had a crystal ball.
GARTH'S CORNER
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @SabresBuzz
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
We might have to add a pick or a low level prospect.
- BuffaloHardHat



Darcy just said that he is getting calls on ALL of his players. Includes Pommer, Vanek and Miller
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
I'd say it's largely because of Crosby taking a MASSIVE discount. He's getting only 8.7 million when he should be getting 15.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


He didnt take a massive discount. Hes getting paid 9-12 Million for the next 9 years.

They circumvented the cap under the allowable old CBA to bring his cap hit down.
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