Hmmmmmmmm, Crosby getting some oral surgery...
- Flyfreaky

Cease and desist.

Hmmmmmmmm, Crosby getting some oral surgery...
- Flyfreaky

there's gonna be some probing

I'm not getting in between your guys arguemnt, just stating thats what happens on here all the time
- david22

I think it's 9/10 trades in the NHL have involved at least 1 draft pick with the exception of that minor league deal from Edmonton and Phoenix. 12 picks in total, only 1 was a first, clearly all picks are integral in making deals.

Edit: I just disagree with your point, it has nothing to do with my other argument.

The Buffalo Sabres have dealt defenceman Jordan Leopold to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for a second round and conditional fifth round draft pick in the 2013 NHL Draft.

the 5th rounder clinched it

The Buffalo Sabres have dealt defenceman Jordan Leopold to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for a second round and conditional fifth round draft pick in the 2013 NHL Draft.

the 5th rounder clinched it
- bobbyisno1

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic but clearly it was a factor, or it wouldn't have been part of the deal.

Luongo and this years first rounder to the Leafs for a hearty handshake and pat on the back from Nonis to Gillis for not being stupid.

The Buffalo Sabres have dealt defenceman Jordan Leopold to the St. Louis Blues in exchange for a second round and conditional fifth round draft pick in the 2013 NHL Draft.

the 5th rounder clinched it
- bobbyisno1

And that adds another goalie to the glut of goalies available now that aren`t going anywhere

Luongo and this years first rounder to the Leafs for a hearty handshake and pat on the back from Nonis to Gillis for not being stupid.
- tmlfan69

I won't be surprised if Gillis loses his job over this one. The nucks are strapped for cap space and the inability to move Luongo is really going to handcuff them further. I don't think the ownership is going to want to want to cough up 40 mil for the buy out. Luongo's value just keeps dropping further too.

I won't be surprised if Gillis loses his job over this one. The nucks are strapped for cap space and the inability to move Luongo is really going to handcuff them further. I don't think the ownership is going to want to want to cough up 40 mil for the buy out. Luongo's value just keeps dropping further too.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Add 1 of St Louis goalies it`s getting uglier by the day for Gillis

I won't be surprised if Gillis loses his job over this one. The nucks are strapped for cap space and the inability to move Luongo is really going to handcuff them further. I don't think the ownership is going to want to want to cough up 40 mil for the buy out. Luongo's value just keeps dropping further too.
- MapleLeafsFTW

That's probably why talks resumed he was told to make a deal for him. Ownership probably not thrilled paying 6+ mil for the back up

Luongo

And that adds another goalie to the glut of goalies available now that aren`t going anywhere
- cdjaakkola

What miller going to cost in trade.

Luongo
- Hockey_Hoser

Fixed

What miller going to cost in trade.
- Yeti1181

According to a certain Sabres enthusiast? Probably along the lines of Kadri or Gardiner, another top leafs prospect and a first.

According to a certain Sabres enthusiast? Probably along the lines of Kadri or Gardiner, another top leafs prospect and a first.
- A_Tree

Where have we heard that BS before?

According to a certain Sabres enthusiast? Probably along the lines of Kadri or Gardiner, another top leafs prospect and a first.
- A_Tree

So pretty much Lu's going rate at start of year

That's probably why talks resumed he was told to make a deal for him. Ownership probably not thrilled paying 6+ mil for the back up
- Yeti1181

Nonis has him by the short and curlies so to speak. I hope he doesn't mess it up somehow this is where it would be good to have Burke.
"We wanted to give you what we thought was fair and you wanted too much, now you don't have any options, we want you to take half of his contract and Komisarek" Burke would say

What miller going to cost in trade.
- Yeti1181

Hell with St.Louis now, there are going to be so many options this summer its crazy for the leafs to give up anything for Luongo

What miller going to cost in trade.
- Yeti1181

In terms of what u would have to give up Luongo would be a steal compared to what it would cost to land Miller..

Miller cost u 2013 1st and Gardiner for sure...Might take more..



Luo's contract hurts trade value..I would rather have Luongo over Miller ...

I think it's 9/10 trades in the NHL have involved at least 1 draft pick with the exception of that minor league deal from Edmonton and Phoenix. 12 picks in total, only 1 was a first, clearly all picks are integral in making deals.

Edit: I just disagree with your point, it has nothing to do with my other argument.
- MapleLeafsFTW

I wasn't knocking putting picks in a trade. But on this site you always see trades and people will throw in a 3rd or 4th thinking that will make a bad deal fair.

So pretty much Lu's going rate at start of year
- Canada Cup

Except Luongo's contract is massive. Miller is 6.5 or something for two more years before UFA.

I wasn't knocking putting picks in a trade. But on this site you always see trades and people will throw in a 3rd or 4th thinking that will make a bad deal fair.
- david22

See: EA Sports NHL 06 - 13 Trade offers.

I wasn't knocking putting picks in a trade. But on this site you always see trades and people will throw in a 3rd or 4th thinking that will make a bad deal fair.
- david22

That's fair, there are some bad trade proposals that fit that criteria
I don't really see what is unreasonable about the ones I have suggested:

Liles+Bozak+conditional second(if Bozak resigns)-Statsny
Percy/Finn/Blacker+2nd+4th/5th-Burns
Macarthur+Ashton+4th/5th- Clowe

I could go in to more depth and explanation on each of these, but they are just guidelines of the rough value I think it would take to bring in these players which would help our team now and in the future.

See: EA Sports NHL 06 - 13 Trade offers.
- A_Tree

Damn those games are fun, I think you just inspired me to pop in 12 and start a franchise. I'll let you know how it goes.

Damn those games are fun, I think you just inspired me to pop in 12 and start a franchise. I'll let you know how it goes.
- MapleLeafsFTW

Word.