Bozak for a 1st is fair considering it won't be a top 15 pick. Also since when can Mayson Raymond land you an impact player?
- Allstarzz

I've been the biggest supporter of Bozak to the canucks and would love it to happen as part of the Lu package. With the season he is having I doubt the leafs part with him as they are desprete for the playoffs.
As I said yesterday grabowski has an equally horrid contract. Lu for Grabowski and Gunnersson or 2nd. Leafs perhaps add another prospect. Could even throw in Ballard and komi
As for Clowe, if the price is right get him to play with and mentor Kassian.

- 1970vintage

To be fair, Paul Gaustad was worth a first last year.

Bozak for a 1st is fair considering it won't be a top 15 pick. Also since when can Mayson Raymond land you an impact player?
- Allstarzz

Have you ever confronted your mother about the crack she smoked while pregnant with you?

To be fair, Paul Gaustad was worth a first last year.
- Michael_Stuart

Was he "worth" a first last year? I know that's what Buffalo got, but...

EDIT - I would suggest that Bozak and Raymond are equally valuable, depending on what a team needed, I just don't believe that either is worth a 1st round pick, as both are UFA at season's end.

Was he "worth" a first last year? I know that's what Buffalo got, but...
- 1970vintage

Paul Gaustad does bring a bit of grit and is good on face-offs; however, he is a band-aid boy (14 and 56 games played the past two seasons) and definitely not worth a first round pick any way you look at it. Just my $.02

To be fair, Paul Gaustad was worth a first last year.
- Michael_Stuart

Some years players values go way up, some years down I don't get the NHL. Iginla was only worth a 1st and couple bums while last year gaustad ( is he still in the nhl?) got a 1st.

Was he "worth" a first last year? I know that's what Buffalo got, but...

EDIT - I would suggest that Bozak and Raymond are equally valuable, depending on what a team needed, I just don't believe that either is worth a 1st round pick, as both are UFA at season's end.
- 1970vintage

You have to also take into consideration that Bozak gets much more ice-time than Raymond (I believe it's usually in the twenty minute range). Additionally, Raymond only gets second-unit power play time - if he were on the first unit I am confident he would have more goals/points than Bozak. As it is, he's not that far off (18 vs 23)

Was he "worth" a first last year? I know that's what Buffalo got, but...

EDIT - I would suggest that Bozak and Raymond are equally valuable, depending on what a team needed, I just don't believe that either is worth a 1st round pick, as both are UFA at season's end.
- 1970vintage

that's homer BS

So I played some poker yesterday, was up over $500 until this hand.


I had 7-7. Flop comes 10-6-6 rainbow. In 2nd position I put out a $35 bet. 2 callers. Turn comes 9. checked around. River a 7.

1st position bets $50, I think awhile before raising to $150, 3rd folds. 1st goes in the tank before going all in. I call, he shows me 6-6. Just like that lost all my profits.
- golfingsince

Ouch... nothing you could do about that, although a shove over a river raise would make me think he had TT or 99, 88 could have gotten there for a straight, or else a lower full house, like T6/76/96 ... especially calling on a rainbow board. Who was the original raiser or was it a multi-way limped hand and what was your read?

Bozak's a 2C. 20+ of the picks in the first round won't be 1st line players.

Definitely worth that.

Bozak's a 2C. 20+ of the picks in the first round won't be 1st line players.

Definitely worth that.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Agreed about bozak being better then 2/3 of the guys in the draft. Hell he's better then the last 3 guys taken 1st overall
If bozak was signed for beyond this season then your comment would maybe suggest you know what you are talking about, but given the fact that you may have him for about 10 games it preety much proves how bright you are.

Bozak's a 2C. 20+ of the picks in the first round won't be 1st line players.

Definitely worth that.
- TheNugeIsHuge

If you can sign him to a reasonable contract extension and don't trust your scouting or don't like this draft class then for sure. Also has to be an organizational fit, short-term and long-term with the roster and cap. Gillis definitely likes Bozak though.

Yes, mouth gaurds are often worn to protect against concusion also. Not joking .I seen an article on that a couple of weeks ago
- VANTEL

Its still inconclusive. My buddy is a doctor for team Canada and has done studies and is part of the global panel. They dont appear to prevent, may lessen effects.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/kn...s/news/concussion-march11

Agreed about bozak being better then 2/3 of the guys in the draft. Hell he's better then the last 3 guys taken 1st overall
If bozak was signed for beyond this season then your comment would maybe suggest you know what you are talking about, but given the fact that you may have him for about 10 games it preety much proves how bright you are.
- Bieksa#3

I was being reasonable, you're just being a jackass. If people ever question why I hate canucks fans .

If VAN's first round pick this year, makes it to the NHL while VAN is still a contender(in the next 2 years), then they should keep it. Sounds likely

Also I didn't say anyone should trade their 1st for Bozak, I said Bozak was worth a 1st. But congratulations on being an ignorant (frank). Really unlike VAN fans

Its still inconclusive. My buddy is a doctor for team Canada and has done studies and is part of the global panel. They dont appear to prevent, may lessen effects.

http://www.ucalgary.ca/kn...s/news/concussion-march11
- Iggysbff

I am not sure how muck studies they have had done ,so I can't argue yeah or nay. It seems that it wuld make sense but I am not sure.

Agreed about bozak being better then 2/3 of the guys in the draft. Hell he's better then the last 3 guys taken 1st overall
If bozak was signed for beyond this season then your comment would maybe suggest you know what you are talking about, but given the fact that you may have him for about 10 games it preety much proves how bright you are.
- Bieksa#3

I know your just doing it intentionally to be a douche but thats location worthy!

I am not sure how muck studies they have had done ,so I can't argue yeah or nay. It seems that it wuld make sense but I am not sure.
- VANTEL

One thing that might help is collars like what linemen wear in football. Something that would stabilize the neck so that there's no whiplash effect to shake the brain inside the skull.

coincedence??

Since Gillis has reportedly contacted Nonis ,Gardiner is sitting out his second game

I was being reasonable, you're just being a jackass. If people ever question why I hate canucks fans .

If VAN's first round pick this year, makes it to the NHL while VAN is still a contender(in the next 2 years), then they should keep it. Sounds likely

Also I didn't say anyone should trade their 1st for Bozak, I said Bozak was worth a 1st. But congratulations on being an ignorant (frank). Really unlike VAN fans
- TheNugeIsHuge

Everyday you are in here acting like an idiot. Trolling away with stupid trade scenerios
You can make this out to be whatever you wish, but you bring it on yourself. You wanna come on here and for the most part have civil hockey discussions, then your welcome to and will be accepted. However you troll for the most part and you won't be treated with any respect

coincedence??

Since Gillis has reportedly contacted Nonis ,Gardiner is sitting out his second game
- VANTEL

Wait next week when you have Kesler Lu and Raymond and give up Kessel and Lupul
- VANTEL

I seem to remember many Canuckleheads indicating they didn't want anything from the Leafs roster and how all of the Leaf prospects were lousy..... and that there was no way Vancouver would trade the "top 3 goalie" .....

my my how times have changed.

at least you can joke about it... I'm guessing Gillis can't - nor will his replacement.

I love Brian Murrays honesty. Gillis should take some lessons

I seem to remember many Canuckleheads indicating they didn't want anything from the Leafs roster and how all of the Leaf prospects were lousy..... and that there was no way Vancouver would trade the "top 3 goalie" .....

my my how times have changed.

at least you can joke about it... I'm guessing Gillis can't - nor will his replacement.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Things always change . What can I say.

Everyday you are in here acting like an idiot. Trolling away with stupid trade scenerios
You can make this out to be whatever you wish, but you bring it on yourself. You wanna come on here and for the most part have civil hockey discussions, then your welcome to and will be accepted. However you troll for the most part and you won't be treated with any respect
- Bieksa#3

+1