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tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:46 PM ET
Yep, they'll put their name on anything for a buck...


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 29 @ 10:47 PM ET
If the Flyers signed that deal I would agree. The Islanders have plenty of cap space and money. Not an issue for NY.
- stveshdy


The point being that a deal with any of the pending UFA defense would likely require a second year. See what I'm getting at?

If they don't re-sign Timonen, they likely have to give Vishnovsky or Gonchar or whomever else a 2 year deal
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 29 @ 10:48 PM ET
Yep, they'll put their name on anything for a buck...


- tangent_man

Yeah, in other news form 1977 they caught the Son of Sam killer
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 29 @ 10:48 PM ET
Jagr picks up 1000th career assist
- Jsaquella



He looks like the Jagr of the first half of the season last year. He faded in the latter half. This 1/2 season would actually have been a good season to keep him. If Homer had known when the season would start maybe he would not have let him go.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:49 PM ET
He looks like the Jagr of the first half of the season last year. He faded in the latter half. This 1/2 season would actually have been a good season to keep him. If Homer had known when the season would start maybe he would not have let him go.
- PT21


I think he would have helped, no doubt. But if some of these young players need to go through some growing pains, I'm glad they're getting it over with.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 10:50 PM ET
The point being that a deal with any of the pending UFA defense would likely require a second year. See what I'm getting at?

If they don't re-sign Timonen, they likely have to give Vishnovsky or Gonchar or whomever else a 2 year deal

- Jsaquella


Thats if you decide to go after a player that age. The Flyers could sign a younger defenseman and give a longer deal. Either way it would cost $. I see what your saying.

I just think its a good signing for NY Islanders based on what they have and how much money they have.

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:50 PM ET
Yeah, in other news form 1977 they caught the Son of Sam killer
- Jsaquella


And they get a whole new generation of fans. Can't wait to hear the pre-teens in the neighborhood singing 'Love Gun'.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 29 @ 10:52 PM ET
Thats if you decide to go after a player that age. The Flyers could sign a younger defenseman and give a longer deal. Either way it would cost $. I see what your saying.

I just think its a good signing for NY Islanders based on what they have and how much money they have.

- stveshdy


There's not many under 35 defensemen that could be expected to be top 4 guys in the UFA class. The only one who is is Ron Hainsey.

It's a fine deal for the Isles, I'm simply talking about how it would affect the Flyers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 29 @ 10:53 PM ET
And they get a whole new generation of fans. Can't wait to hear the pre-teens in the neighborhood singing 'Love Gun'.
- tangent_man


My kids share my distaste. And they like rock music
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 10:53 PM ET
Yes, will benefit from another year in juniors but doubt he'll get it
- ob18


Did not realize he is the son of former NBA player Popeye Jones.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
There's not many under 35 defensemen that could be expected to be top 4 guys in the UFA class. The only one who is is Ron Hainsey.
- Jsaquella


Schenn/Coburn
Grossmann/Mez
UFA/Pick someone currently on team

I dont think they would replace Timonen but more of just find some player or two to help along the defense.

At some point they will have to move on from Timonen and play without him.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
There's not many under 35 defensemen that could be expected to be top 4 guys in the UFA class. The only one who is is Ron Hainsey.

It's a fine deal for the Isles, I'm simply talking about how it would affect the Flyers.

- Jsaquella


It is a decent deal for them, considering he doesn't really have serious (read: recurring) health issues.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 29 @ 10:56 PM ET
Schenn/Coburn
Grossmann/Mez
UFA/Pick someone currently on team

I dont think they would replace Timonen but more of just find some player or two to help along the defense.

- stveshdy


Ah yes, because our defense this year without Timonen would have been so great.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 10:58 PM ET
Ah yes, because our defense this year without Timonen would have been so great.
- Jsaquella


The Flyers are going to have to play without Timonen at some point. Whether we think hes still a very good defenseman or not. That time is coming sooner rather than later.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 11:02 PM ET
It is a decent deal for them, considering he doesn't really have serious (read: recurring) health issues.
- tangent_man


Its a good deal for the Islanders. They have the $ and cap space.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 29 @ 11:02 PM ET
The Flyers are going to have to play without Timonen at some point. Whether we think hes still a very good defenseman or not. That time is coming sooner rather than later.
- stveshdy


It is, but it's better to have secured another year of Timonen, rather than get stuck with two of another veteran and have to worry about potential over 35 issues in another year.

It buys them an additional year without having to worry about cap troubles later.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 11:04 PM ET
It is, but it's better to have secured another year of Timonen, rather than get stuck with two of another veteran and have to worry about potential over 35 issues in another year.
- Jsaquella


I wouldnt look to sign a player thats over 35. I would look in another direction. Honestly, I dont think anyone on the market is going to be Timonen. My only point is the Flyers will have to look in another direction. I appreciate everything Timonen has done since being here and will respect his game but father time catches up to everyone.

You are right it does give them another year. Im just not sure hes worth the $6M.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 11:09 PM ET
Jagr picks up 1000th career assist
- Jsaquella

Please tell me he celebrated like he wanted G to here:

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 29 @ 11:10 PM ET
After 1 (sorry skip)

Portland - 5
Everett - 1

Leier with an assist
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 29 @ 11:12 PM ET
Did not realize he is the son of former NBA player Popeye Jones.
- stveshdy


His younger brother Caleb just became a member of the under 17 USNDTP
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 11:12 PM ET
I wouldnt look to sign a player thats over 35. I would look in another direction. Honestly, I dont think anyone on the market is going to be Timonen. My only point is the Flyers will have to look in another direction. I appreciate everything Timonen has done since being here and will respect his game but father time catches up to everyone.

You are right it does give them another year. Im just not sure hes worth the $6M.

- stveshdy

He's not unless you factor in the fact that it is a player's market when it comes to his position. Timonen's agent knows the Flyers have no one to whom Kimmo's torch would pass. Not unless they want to get into the over-35 mess Jsaq alluded to. If you want someone under 35, name him, because it'll have to be via trade.

In other words, the only "other direction" they can take is to draft, develop, and wait.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 29 @ 11:12 PM ET
After 1 (sorry skip)

Portland - 5
Everett - 1

Leier with an assist

- ob18


Yikes. I thought it'd be more of a series after Game 1.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 29 @ 11:14 PM ET
Yikes. I thought it'd be more of a series after Game 1.
- Flyskippy


Everett forgot to show up in the 1st
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 29 @ 11:17 PM ET
He's not unless you factor in the fact that it is a player's market when it comes to his position. Timonen's agent knows the Flyers have no one to whom Kimmo's torch would pass. Not unless they want to get into the over-35 mess Jsaq alluded to. If you want someone under 35, name him, because it'll have to be via trade.

In other words, the only "other direction" they can take is to draft, develop, and wait.

- Flyskippy


They will have to do that anyways b/c hes only signed for one more season.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 29 @ 11:17 PM ET
All but a 4th rounder

http://www.prosportstrans...tTrades/Future/Flyers.htm

- ob18

It could be a 3rd if the (snicker) flyers (snort) make the hahahahahahahahahahaha
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