.....all the while Lindy Ruff sipped his Tim Horton's Coffee and said "I told you so."
- The_Inkwell

.....figured if I started it that it would end up somewhere good. I feel like Regier should've been in there somewhere.

If they had turned into a perennial contender then you could make an argument to defend but they're still terrible. Boston gave up their guy and got better and younger. And won a Cup.
- Pairo11

Problem in TO was they had traded so many top picks (rds 1-3) over the years that the cupboards were so bare, any GM was (frank)ed from the beginning. Was the Kessel trade a bad one? Probably but he had to do something to get top line talent there. He did a very nice job of amassing prospects that the future doesn't look so doom and gloom anymore. He just wore out his welcome with ownership like he does everywhere he goes.

I think Leino had a valid reason to call out the linesman like that. They clearly blew the call. The puck went out of the zone and was carried back in by a Florida player, Ville took it away and the play was blown dead offsides. Brutal work by the linesman there and Leino gets a penalty for calling him out and then gets benched for the rest of the night. Just another bizarre chapter to the worst season in Sabres history. It least it will be over soon. I can't stand watching, yet I cant stop watching.
- The_Inkwell

seems like argueing balls and strikes just cant do that. The whistle is blown thats the call dont argue

Problem in TO was they had traded so many top picks (rds 1-3) over the years that the cupboards were so bare, any GM was (frank)ed from the beginning. Was the Kessel trade a bad one? Probably but he had to do something to get top line talent there. He did a very nice job of amassing prospects that the future doesn't look so doom and gloom anymore. He just wore out his welcome with ownership like he does everywhere he goes.
- dadeadhead

Would the media and fans allow for a rebuild? I dont think they would let that happen so you have to trade your picks to try to win right now and time in and time again it shows thats not how to do it. Tank and draft top 3 like everyone else

Had the balls to make the trades in 99 to draft both Sedins.

Won a cup in Anaheim.

Built the currant team in Toronto.



He is probably one of the top 5 GM's in the game.
- dadeadhead

I agree to disagree. I don't think much of him.

I think Leino had a valid reason to call out the linesman like that. They clearly blew the call. The puck went out of the zone and was carried back in by a Florida player, Ville took it away and the play was blown dead offsides. Brutal work by the linesman there and Leino gets a penalty for calling him out and then gets benched for the rest of the night. Just another bizarre chapter to the worst season in Sabres history. It least it will be over soon. I can't stand watching, yet I cant stop watching.
- The_Inkwell

86-87 was the worst year IMO. They ended up with the worst record in the NHL and drafted 1st overall. This team is bad and might not draft in the top 5.

I want to punch Andrew Peters. He says trading any of Miller, Vanek and Pominville shouldnt even be considered.

Add: Also get rid of the youth.

If those 2 picks are in the 20-25 range they dont get Tyler they dont get dougie then deal could be one sided toronto
- hubie

Right. But since they suck so bad they were great picks.
Chiarelli was STILL pinching himself until yesterday when Iginla stuck it in him and then snapped it off !!

86-87 was the worst year IMO. They ended up with the worst record in the NHL and drafted 1st overall. This team is bad and might not draft in the top 5.
- dadeadhead

As long as we are in the top 8 I think we are fine.

The only thing he did in Anaheim was hire Caryle and bring in Neidimier. He inherited most of the roster when they won.

Je drafted the Sedins and they have yet to win a cup and Toronto is hovering around a 7th seed? Not exactly dynamite there
- Stripes77

Exactly. Burke is nothing at all special when it comes to GM's.
He is Matt Ellis of GM's. But it's just my opinion.

Right. But since they suck so bad they were great picks.
Chiarelli was STILL pinching himself until yesterday when Iginla stuck it in him and then snapped it off !!


- Pairo11

Its the old what if. Remember when they got the Moster that was supposed to fix the goalie situation for a decade aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh try again

Right. But since they suck so bad they were great picks.
Chiarelli was STILL pinching himself until yesterday when Iginla stuck it in him and then snapped it off !!


- Pairo11

Whether it was Iginla being a d*ckhead or Feaster being a buffoon stuff like that and offer sheeting O'Reilly won't be helping Feasters cause/image moving forward.

Would the media and fans allow for a rebuild? I dont think they would let that happen so you have to trade your picks to try to win right now and time in and time again it shows thats not how to do it. Tank and draft top 3 like everyone else
- hubie

Count me in !!!!

Would the media and fans allow for a rebuild? I dont think they would let that happen so you have to trade your picks to try to win right now and time in and time again it shows thats not how to do it. Tank and draft top 3 like everyone else
- hubie

Agreed but what I'm saying is the previous GM's in TO had moved so many top picks that organizationally they had zero talent. He made a move to get a top line player.

Did it work out for the best? Probably not but say they trade Kessel for a nice return to add to the current young talent they've amassed. It then becomes a more even trade.

I want to punch Andrew Peters. He says trading any of Miller, Vanek and Pominville shouldnt even be considered.

Add: Also get rid of the youth.
- ImThatGuy

His credentials for hockey analysis include taking steroids, putting his fingers in another guy's mouth and getting punched in the head, a lot. Obviously you just can't comprehend his advanced theories and hockey genius.

Whether it was Iginla being a d*ckhead or Feaster being a buffoon stuff like that and offer sheeting O'Reilly won't be helping Feasters cause/image moving forward.
- Gunner Staal

I don't know how Feaster still has a job. He should have been fired 4 years ago.

Agreed but what I'm saying is the previous GM's in TO had moved so many top picks that organizationally they had zero talent. He made a move to get a top line player.

Did it work out for the best? Probably not but say they trade Kessel for a nice return to add to the current young talent they've amassed. It then becomes a more even trade.
- dadeadhead

Id have to look at the whole body of work. Not knowing what all was there like Im sure Dion was a boat load and several others left the them dry. Looks like Kadri could be coming into his own.

I want to punch Andrew Peters. He says trading any of Miller, Vanek and Pominville shouldnt even be considered.

Add: Also get rid of the youth.
- ImThatGuy

Think Homer yesterday said Darcy had a full day meeting with Pegula. That tells me Darcy is gettin offers on the big 3 IMO. I'm honestly confident Darcy will get a solid return if he trades any of them, just a matter of pulling the trigger which we all know is his weakness.

Whether it was Iginla being a d*ckhead or Feaster being a buffoon stuff like that and offer sheeting O'Reilly won't be helping Feasters cause/image moving forward.
- Gunner Staal

Feaster is a terrible GM.

that said, I can't blame him for the Iginla situation. IMO Iginla gave him a list of 4 teams and then said I'll only take a trade to Pitts.

I don't know how Feaster still has a job. He should have been fired 4 years ago.
- Pairo11

What has he done? He looses every trade he makes stupid decisions its awful the job hes done.

Think Homer yesterday said Darcy had a full day meeting with Pegula. That tells me Darcy is gettin offers on the big 3 IMO. I'm honestly confident Darcy will get a solid return if he trades any of them, just a matter of pulling the trigger which we all know is his weakness.
- buffalokb

He did say that which also makes beleive some moves are done. Id think the meeting is seeing what he plans on doing and overseeing what hes trying to do.

Think Homer yesterday said Darcy had a full day meeting with Pegula. That tells me Darcy is gettin offers on the big 3 IMO. I'm honestly confident Darcy will get a solid return if he trades any of them, just a matter of pulling the trigger which we all know is his weakness.
- buffalokb

how does one indicate the other in any way?

Feaster is a terrible GM.

that said, I can't blame him for the Iginla situation. IMO Iginla gave him a list of 4 teams and then said I'll only take a trade to Pitts.
- dadeadhead

His fault lies in not aggressively selling a trade to Iginla 3-4 years prior.

Id have to look at the whole body of work. Not knowing what all was there like Im sure Dion was a boat load and several others left the them dry. Looks like Kadri could be coming into his own.
- hubie

Dion Phaneuf traded from Calgary Flames with Fredrik Sjostrom and Keith Aulie to Toronto Maple Leafs for Jamal Mayers, Niklas Hagman, Matthew Stajan and Ian White

His fault lies in not aggressively selling a trade to Iginla 3-4 years prior.
- Gunner Staal

Iginla has to want to leave. You can't sell a guy on a trade if he has no desire to want to leave.

That said, Calgary is a horrible run organization.