ahhh, one can dream

I would honestly be happy with one top 5
- bigbear89

i hate to cheer for my squad to actually lose games - but hopefully, and in the long term interests of the club, our own pick is a top 5.

ya I agree....it looks as the though list was nothing more than a bargaining tool to work against Pitt...too bad we will probably never know. Or it could have just been a case of Iggy changing his mind at the last minute.

Im sure after Pitt got Morrow and Murray (which was AFTER iggy gave his list), this cause Iggy to want to go there even more.
- The-O-G

That and look at how PIT is playing compared to Boston heading down the stretch. If I was to choose who has a better chance based on the evidence...the choice is not difficult. However as a Boston fan, I am pissed off. I am pissed at Chiarelli, Feaster and Iginla. I want my team to win another cup and the 3 of them contributed to making it a lot harder to do so.

Its not that I don't like him, its more to do with the fact that the Sens need a scoring winger for Spezza, not a defenseman.
- CSF32

Cammi? And don't say salary, that can always be worked out.

Yah you got fleaced. ALso dude if you think boston is going to be willing to trade with feaster after last night i think you've got another thing comming. After that screw up and the fact that feaster took an offer that was no where near as good as the one boston put on the table if i were them i'd not be intrested in helping the flames out. I'd not be intrested in helping them out anyway of course.

i hate to cheer for my squad to actually lose games - but hopefully, and in the long term interests of the club, our own pick is a top 5.
- flameski

I'm with you... Top 5 pick could really help our flames.

As a Kings fan, I would be interested in Giordano, but he would have to waive his NMC. We could give up the following:

Any ONE of the following roster players:
Willie Mitchell
Alec Martinez
Jarret Stoll
Colin Fraser

AND

Any ONE prospect except:
Tyler Toffoli
Tanner Pearson
Linden Vey
Derek Forbort

AND

Any ONE pick except:
2014 1st round

So here's a sample trade:
Giordano for Willie Mitchell, Andrew Campbell, & 2014 2nd

Calgary gets a veteran mentor for its younger prospects, and LA gets a solid, physical blue-liner to fill in due to our injury vacancies.

I'm sure Calgary fans will say, BUT WE WANT BERNIER!!! No way any trade between Calgary & LA that happens at the trade deadline includes Bernier, as we would need a quality goaltender in return in case Quick goes down, and Calgary doesn't have any quality backups to give up.

If we're talking about a trade around draft day, then I could see a trade similar to Bernier for Giordano and a 2013 3rd or 4th happening.
- tkecanuck341

The only player that urgency to being moved was dealt with last night. We can patiently wait until the draft. Bernier, IMO, is still not the most important piece. But, if we get Ramo signed and then trade for Bernier, I'm ok with the 1,1A thing, I just don't want to scare off Ramo before he is signed. Again, I think we should focus on other areas 1st.

Yah you got fleaced. ALso dude if you think boston is going to be willing to trade with feaster after last night i think you've got another thing comming. After that screw up and the fact that feaster took an offer that was no where near as good as the one boston put on the table if i were them i'd not be intrested in helping the flames out. I'd not be intrested in helping them out anyway of course.
- deadsector

Feaster took what he could.. Jarome set that pace. Oh and so you're aware, a trade is supposed to help BOTH teams involved so the statement on helping the Flames out is moronic. If Chiarelli took this personally, he's the one with the issue... You make a deal to improve your team and if that deal involves Calgary, you suck it up and reluctantly make it happen...

Yah you got fleaced. ALso dude if you think boston is going to be willing to trade with feaster after last night i think you've got another thing comming. After that screw up and the fact that feaster took an offer that was no where near as good as the one boston put on the table if i were them i'd not be intrested in helping the flames out. I'd not be intrested in helping them out anyway of course.
- deadsector

From TSN.ca - Chiarelli also said he was not upset with Flames GM Jay Feaster or the Calgary Flames. "This kind of stuff happens more than you know," he explained.

Yah you got fleaced. ALso dude if you think boston is going to be willing to trade with feaster after last night i think you've got another thing comming. After that screw up and the fact that feaster took an offer that was no where near as good as the one boston put on the table if i were them i'd not be intrested in helping the flames out. I'd not be intrested in helping them out anyway of course.
- deadsector

I'm sure PC will get over it. Besides, at this point, now that Iggy is gone, the immediate future would see BOS needing us more than we would need them.

How do you know that? Feaster says 1 thing, Chiarelli says another. You will NEVER know for sure who said what or how someone interpreted what was said. Bottom line, "players choice" and player chose PIT.
- TandA4Flames

Seems funny how this keeps happening to Feaster though.

With the ROR situation he said their lawyers interpreted the rule one way and that the Players agent interpreted it the same. Yet the Players agent says there was no discussion about it at all?

Seems Feaster is always blaming someone else...

I think Glencross would get a significant return. His contract is friendly so other GMs should be clamouring for him.

I need help from a Flame (i know what others will say) fan here....

How do your feel about Jay-Bo? and whats he's value? I brought up a trade between Calgary and NJ ...Clarkson and Greene for Jay-bo (salaries are almost a match). I was pretty much told to get lost by my fellow devil fans. I know I'm an old man and might be losing it but did Jay-bo's value go down that much or is it just typical home fans over-valuing their own players ....again, I remember Jay when with Florida and he was becoming a top if not the top defenseman in the league. I just think he might need a fresh start somewhere else. thx

I need help from a Flame (i know what others will say) fan here....

How do your feel about Jay-Bo? and whats he's value? I brought up a trade between Calgary and NJ ...Clarkson and Greene for Jay-bo (salaries are almost a match). I was pretty much told to get lost by my fellow devil fans. I know I'm an old man and might be losing it but did Jay-bo's value go down that much or is it just typical home fans over-valuing their own players ....again, I remember Jay when with Florida and he was becoming a top if not the top defenseman in the league. I just think he might need a fresh start somewhere else. thx
- Gambi99

were this last year I'd agree with your fellow fans. this year he's been the guy we all thought we were supposed to get (the offensive upside). Eats minutes, has the iron man record and is actually a decent d-man...

jimmyC, two glasses of crown if you can go clean up Clouts thread.

jimmyC, two bottles of crown if you can go clean up Clouts thread.
- Lahey

fixed

were this last year I'd agree with your fellow fans. this year he's been the guy we all thought we were supposed to get (the offensive upside). Eats minutes, has the iron man record and is actually a decent d-man...
- geta02it

Bouwmeester has probably been our best player this season. For the first time since comming to Calgary he is legitimately worth his cap hit. I would expect his return to be much better than Iginla's.

Seems funny how this keeps happening to Feaster though.

With the ROR situation he said their lawyers interpreted the rule one way and that the Players agent interpreted it the same. Yet the Players agent says there was no discussion about it at all?

Seems Feaster is always blaming someone else...
- Iggysbff

Uuuhhh, he's a lawyer..........

willie Mitchell? we had an aging veteran defenseman with little upside in Regher... You guys are a DIVISIONAL opponent next year... Unless either side makes one hell of an offer, it'll be unlikely.
- geta02it

A few things...

If Calgary is serious about going through a rebuild, they're not going to be in a position to challenge LA for the three remaining years that Giordano would have on his contract. You take the best you can get from whoever you can get it from, divisional opponent or not.

As any team that has gone through a rebuild will tell you, you need several components to be successful....

First, as many draft picks you can get your hands on, as early in the draft that you can get them.

Second, quality young prospects that will be in their prime and in a position to take over leadership of the team once the rebuild is complete (i.e. 5-7 years from now, so you're looking for players in the 18-24yo age range).

Third, quality veterans that are beyond their primes, but have the experience to mentor the young players that will take over leadership. They should be in the 35-38yo age range so that they can stick around for a few years. Players like Willie Mitchell, Michel Handzus, Saku Koivu, etc. Mitchell has been to the playoffs with four different teams and has been to the promised land. You can't say the same thing about Regher.

In a trade with LA, you get all 3. You get a 2nd round pick, a quality defensive prospect, and an experienced veteran to mentor the young players.

You laugh at Willie Mitchell, but he has been playing on quality teams for the past 6 years, and has experience on a winning team. He was the pillar of the Kings defense on their cup run, and one of the main reasons that Quick put up such phenomenal numbers last year, but has marginal numbers this year.

Bouwmeester has probably been our best player this season. For the first time since comming to Calgary he is legitimately worth his cap hit. I would expect his return to be much better than Iginla's.
- flamminghead

Sounds like there is 6 or 7 teams interested.....might be more of a draft day deal IMO however.

Bouwmeester has probably been our best player this season. For the first time since comming to Calgary he is legitimately worth his cap hit. I would expect his return to be much better than Iginla's.
- flamminghead

Then two things.....one would you do the trade I presented above and second, why would you want to trade him (seems like you want to) if he is back to playing at an elite level?....I want Jay-bo on the Devils but with Lou Lam it will never happen

Then two things.....one would you do the trade I presented above and second, why would you want to trade him (seems like you want to) if he is back to playing at an elite level?....I want Jay-bo on the Devils but with Lou Lam it will never happen
- Gambi99

BECAUSE WE'RE BLOWING IT UP BABY

Sounds like there is 6 or 7 teams interested.....might be more of a draft day deal IMO however.
- The-O-G

I think if they wait til the draft they'll lose some suitors. I'm sure 3-4 of those teams are looking to make up for injuries to their blueline (ott, det, LA).....i doubt they're still that interested in offseason, knowing free agency is approaching and their current guys are coming back. Also, teams might be more inclined to move their 1st now.....when there's still hope of a long playoff run and the pick won't be as good. For example, if ottawa gets knocked out in first round and end up picking 15th, i stead of in the 20's, they might not want to move the pick.

Think cgy gets better return at deadline.

you guys want to throw a joint lottery draft party?

I think if they wait til the draft they'll lose some suitors. I'm sure 3-4 of those teams are looking to make up for injuries to their blueline (ott, det, LA).....i doubt they're still that interested in offseason, knowing free agency is approaching and their current guys are coming back. Also, teams might be more inclined to move their 1st now.....when there's still hope of a long playoff run and the pick won't be as good. For example, if ottawa gets knocked out in first round and end up picking 15th, i stead of in the 20's, they might not want to move the pick.

Think cgy gets better return at deadline.
- sensarmy_11

Good point. Still, the deal has to be there; can't give him away for nothing. Better to risk moving him next year at the draft or deadline. Dude from NJD asked why trade him. Because he will likely not be here at the end of his contract. Starting today, picks and prospects are more valuable.

jimmyC, two glasses of crown if you can go clean up Clouts thread.
- Lahey

I only gave out one ban... Do you want more than that?