If what Chiarelli is saying in his press conference is true then the NHL should step in and fine or punish Feaster and the Flames. Feaster has (frank)ed up big time yet again. Cant see how any fan can defend him.
- Iggysbff

What is he saying?

Right now they need to trade players and the main returns should be first round draft picks. Some will also warrent a top prospect as well. But it is those draft picks that have the most use.

Also they should now target teams that are not at the top of the conferences, but rather in the play-offs, teams really pushing to keep in the playoffs, or teams who think that they still can get there. Teams like Winnipeg, New Jersey, NY Rangers, NY Islanders, Carolina in the East, or Detroit, St. Louis, Nashville, Dallas, and Columbus in the West. That way the draft picks that come back will be between picks 10 and 20. Even teams like Philadelphia or Tampa Bay may be interested which would be even better.

At the same time keep some assets / players for use at the draft. Then with the stockpile of first round draft picks, and some remaining assets they can package together to move up in the draft.

It is believable that they could translate into 4 first round picks (theirs, Iginla, Kiprusoff, Bouwmeester, Cammalleri). You can argue that players may not be worth it, but these target teams above will be willing to pay to make that push. It happens every year at the deadline. Even Glencross could yield a first (Paul Gaustad did). Now what if as a basis of a trade you put a Cammalleri or Hudler with two of those first rounders to get a much higher draft pick. Say a player and two Mid-Teen Draft picks, to get up to around 6th. Then that pick and another player to get up higher yet.

The ultimate target had to be one of the first four picks (Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin, Barkov). And depending on where they finish, work to get two in the first four. Picture what Vancouver did back when they got the Sedins. Try to work it now to get both MacKinnon and Drouin.

Sure I may be dreaming, but it also isn't as impossible as it seems.

I love the idea of the Sens getting J Bo, for say Bishop and a pick or something like Bishop and Shane Prince. The return will be less for J bo because he has contract left.

Ottawa's defense next 2 years would be stellar
Methot - Karlsson
Cowen - J Bo
Phillips - Weircoch

Calgary does need to keep some pieces, guys like Tanguay and Giordano shouldn't be traded. The best move Ottawa made during their retool, was keeping guys like Neil and Phillips. Good luck Flames fans!
- Smaxer

"The return will be less because he has contract left"

Really? That makes the return, in this situation, greater. He's 29, durable, and will play for many more years. You are getting a player that can be signed and a piece to add to an ever building roster. It's not like he is retiring in 2 years. So, be smarter.

Right now they need to trade players and the main returns should be first round draft picks. Some will also warrent a top prospect as well. But it is those draft picks that have the most use.

Also they should now target teams that are not at the top of the conferences, but rather in the play-offs, teams really pushing to keep in the playoffs, or teams who think that they still can get there. Teams like Winnipeg, New Jersey, NY Rangers, NY Islanders, Carolina in the East, or Detroit, St. Louis, Nashville, Dallas, and Columbus in the West. That way the draft picks that come back will be between picks 10 and 20. Even teams like Philadelphia or Tampa Bay may be interested which would be even better.

At the same time keep some assets / players for use at the draft. Then with the stockpile of first round draft picks, and some remaining assets they can package together to move up in the draft.

It is believable that they could translate into 4 first round picks (theirs, Iginla, Kiprusoff, Bouwmeester, Cammalleri). You can argue that players may not be worth it, but these target teams above will be willing to pay to make that push. It happens every year at the deadline. Even Glencross could yield a first (Paul Gaustad did). Now what if as a basis of a trade you put a Cammalleri or Hudler with two of those first rounders to get a much higher draft pick. Say a player and two Mid-Teen Draft picks, to get up to around 6th. Then that pick and another player to get up higher yet.

The ultimate target had to be one of the first four picks (Jones, Mackinnon, Drouin, Barkov). And depending on where they finish, work to get two in the first four. Picture what Vancouver did back when they got the Sedins. Try to work it now to get both MacKinnon and Drouin.

Sure I may be dreaming, but it also isn't as impossible as it seems.
- dal_johnson

Totally agree....I think they need 2 of the top 4 somehow, providing Seth Jones goes first.

A lot depends on the lottery, but the top 4 picks are deadly, i'd be happy with any 2 of MacKinnon, Drouin, Jones, or Barkov.

Hopefully they get lucky and win the lottery.

Totally agree....I think they need 2 of the top 4 somehow, providing Seth Jones goes first.

A lot depends on the lottery, but the top 4 picks are deadly, i'd be happy with any 2 of MacKinnon, Drouin, Jones, or Barkov.

Hopefully they get lucky and win the lottery.
- The-O-G

Somehow doubt the hockey gods will be smiling on our little franchise...

"The return will be less because he has contract left"

Really? That makes the return, in this situation, greater. He's 29, durable, and will play for many more years. You are getting a player that can be signed and a piece to add to an ever building roster. It's not like he is retiring in 2 years. So, be smarter.
- TandA4Flames

So UFA's are worth less when the Flames try to trade Iggy, but if they try to trade guys with 1 year left it's a detriment?

The Flames are really getting F'd

"The return will be less because he has contract left"

Really? That makes the return, in this situation, greater. He's 29, durable, and will play for many more years. You are getting a player that can be signed and a piece to add to an ever building roster. It's not like he is retiring in 2 years. So, be smarter.
- TandA4Flames

It's term left on a BAD contract.

It does if the NMC says that Iggy has to provide a list of teams he would accept to go to.
- BigDre

Chiarelli just said that the Flames told the Bruins at noon yesterday they got Iginla. The 1st was not conditional, the Bruins operated as though they got Iginla and late last night they were told he was going to the Pens.

So really it didn't matter in the end if there was a list of teams, because Iginla didn't honor the list of teams. The Flames took the Bruins offer and then Iginla turned it down because he wanted to be a Penguin.

It's term left on a BAD contract.
- sensarmy_11

1 year and about 1 million overpaid......WORST CONTRACT EVER

Chiarelli just said that the Flames told the Bruins at noon yesterday they got Iginla. The 1st was not conditional, the Bruins operated as though they got Iginla and late last night they were told he was going to the Pens.

So really it didn't matter in the end if there was a list of teams, because Iginla didn't honor the list of teams. The Flames took the Bruins offer and then Iginla turned it down because he wanted to be a Penguin.
- GSDIV

Hmm interesting.....i'd much rather have the Bruins offer.....but in the end Iggy had the right to go wherever he wanted.

Somehow doubt the hockey gods will be smiling on our little franchise...
- geta02it

Positive thoughts my friend!

(but you're probably right)

1 year and about 1 million overpaid......WORST CONTRACT EVER
- The-O-G

His cap hit is almost 7 million.....you really think that's only 1 mil overpaid?

I'd still take him....but most analysts that i've hearx talk about him say that his contract makes him hard to move.

Boston Bruins‏@NHLBruins3m
PC said last night, "around quarter to 12 got a call from Jay saying it was player's choice & he opted to go to Pittsburgh & we were out"

A Sens fan making a sensible comment????
- Iggysbff

Sens fans are some of the most knowledge, humble, and dedicated.

Calgary fans-- I know your hearts are mourning right now [seriously, it feels weird Iggy not being in CAN)... what's the best analysis of Jay Bouwmeester? What are his strongest assets right now? What are his weaknesses? Is he a 2nd Dman or top 4? How much $ [exactly] is he actually worth?

His cap hit is almost 7 million.....you really think that's only 1 mil overpaid?

I'd still take him....but most analysts that i've hearx talk about him say that his contract makes him hard to move.
- sensarmy_11

6.68 Million.....would I pay JBO 5.68? Abso(frank)inglutely

Boston Bruins‏@NHLBruins3m
PC said last night, "around quarter to 12 got a call from Jay saying it was player's choice & he opted to go to Pittsburgh & we were out"
- The-O-G

What does that say to PC that he rather go to Pitts. I wonder what PC does now

Sens fans are some of the most knowledge, humble, and dedicated.

Calgary fans-- I know your hearts are mourning right now
- AlfieisKing[seriously, it feels weird Iggy not being in CAN)... what's the best analysis of Jay Bouwmeester? What are his strongest assets right now? What are his weaknesses? Is he a 2nd Dman or top 4? How much $ [exactly] is he actually worth?

JBO is worth his contract this year (6.68 million).

Top 2, minute-eating, 2-way, durable. He's what every team looks for on the back-end and more.

JBO is worth his contract this year (6.68 million).

Top 2, minute-eating, 2-way, durable. He's what every team looks for on the back-end and more.
- The-O-G

THis year is the first one we've truly seen the offensive upside. THIS is the JayBo we thought we got a few years back...

Stastny for Jay Bo, lets just let swap bad contracts and move on

Stastny for Jay Bo, lets just let swap bad contracts and move on
- DDM-Coga

sold to the man from Calgary

sold to the man from Calgary
- geta02it

Excellent, now I guess I should go to the Rose and Crown to celerbate

Sens fans are some of the most knowledge, humble, and dedicated.

Calgary fans-- I know your hearts are mourning right now
- AlfieisKing[seriously, it feels weird Iggy not being in CAN)... what's the best analysis of Jay Bouwmeester? What are his strongest assets right now? What are his weaknesses? Is he a 2nd Dman or top 4? How much $ [exactly] is he actually worth?

Strongest assets right now:
Durability, 3 zone game, puck movement; stick & body positioning; skating ability; ice time capabilities; consistency
Weaknesses: Not very physical; not a big or heavy shot (his goals are more from jumping into the play)

He doesn't have a lot of emotion. I guess that can be a positive or negative because it allows him to be consistently good and at a high level but rarely sees a higher gear.

Given current market and current play, 5.5mil seems about right, maybe a little higher.

Important question is, though, what is he worth to you or on the open market?

Ottawa sends: Bishop, 3rd rounder & JOB to Calgary: J-BO

yea because it's really so far along our rebuild to judge how we're doing, i mean 2.5 years into and they haven't won a cup yet? pathetic
- SpoiledByOil

You've been picking in the top ten for like 5 years, stop trying to pretend the rebuild wasn't happening just to feel better.

In fact, it was happening as soon as Pronger ditched the Oil.

All they have to show for it is a strong trio of forwards, a mediocre goaltender, and puck moving defenseman who isn't near ready to play top NHL minutes defensively.

Hmm interesting.....i'd much rather have the Bruins offer.....but in the end Iggy had the right to go wherever he wanted.
- The-O-G

You know, that's if the Bruins offer was an unconditional 2013 1st. There's a lot of smoke being blown around now that this is done. I would think Bruins needed Iggy way more than Pitt did, they should have made it so sweet, Flames could have leaned on Iggy a bit to take the best deal for the club. Something tells me evryone knew Chicago & LA were not players of the 4 team list. Iggy slipped out at the press conference that there were 3 offers on the table. Obviously LA or Chicago werent interested. Chiarielli can say what he wants, the truth is somewhere in the middle. Conroy is saying on Fan 960 that Feaster & Wiesbrod left the pressbox to discuss the 2 offers with Iggy & it could have gone either way. I doubt Feaster verbally accepted the Bruin deal. Probably told him yeah OK, we are going to make a decision tonight.