6 huh....So the Flames are in what year? 3-4?
- Iggysbff

2, 2 days into the rebuild they refuse to call a rebuild. Ken King did bring up "wandering the dessert " line again about Edmonton, he is such and assshole

2, 2 days into the rebuild they refuse to call a rebuild. Ken King did bring up "wandering the dessert " line again about Edmonton, he is such and assshole
- Lanny9

Yeah whats with these (frank)ing guys? It is what it (frank)ing is, just say it & get on doing it. This Kipper fiasco has pretty assured us he wont be playing here nxt year. He's either elsewhere or retired. With JBO probably being traded & I wouldnt doubt Cammi will be moved too, we will have jettisoned 25.6 mill off our cap. Add Babchuks 2.5 gone & that is 28 mill in cap space. We are going to be lucky to be a cap floor team next year. If I were GM, here's what I'd do right now:

1/Sell Stajan to New Jersey, eat 1.4 mill of salary & cap so that he is only 2.1 mill cap hit but only 1.1 mill in actual $$$ for a prospect & a 2nd rounder. If New Jersey dont want him, I'm sure someone will at that price.
2/ Sell Cammi to the Bruins & eat 2.0 mill of his salary & cap hit for this & remainder of next year for that Koko & Bruins 1st rounder. Bruins need the scoring.
3/I would try to entice Philly with JBO, eat another 2.0 mill this years & next year salary & cap space + the 2nd rounder we acquired from Stajan+ Koko we acquired from Bruins for Couturier & their 1st. If that didnt work then back to plan B & sell JBO to the highest bidder of Detroit, St louis or Ottawa & be sure a 1st rounder & a top prospect is coming back. JBO we can almost not have to eat any salary, unless St louis give us a 2013 1st & a 2014 1st & a top prospect (Rattie?) if we eat 2.0 of salary & cap space because they have some contracts to renew coming up with players they want to keep.

Why eat 3-5 million in dead salary next year? Well how is that much different than the 4.5 mill in salary we have healthy scratched with Sarich & Babchuk for most of this year? It helps us get way more value back & next year is going to be a long tough year. There will be no sniffing at UFA's or buying at the trade deadline. We will be as close to a cap floor team as we have ever been since the D Sutter era & the birth of Salary Cap in the nHL.

Then I would go all in at the draft & assuming we are probably going to have a top 5 pick, try to get a 2nd top 5 pick. I would use 2 of of the later 1st rounders we acquired & dangle one of our few decent prospects like Reinhart, Wotherspoon maybe even Broissoit in a package for a top 5 pick. Overpay if you have to, but thats where we start to rebuild around a few future franchise players & hope that Sven & Gaudreau also become important core players in the future.

But thats just me. WTF do I know?

Yeah whats with these (frank)ing guys? It is what it (frank)ing is, just say it & get on doing it. This Kipper fiasco has pretty assured us he wont be playing here nxt year. He's either elsewhere or retired. With JBO probably being traded & I wouldnt doubt Cammi will be moved too, we will have jettisoned 25.6 mill off our cap. Add Babchuks 2.5 gone & that is 28 mill in cap space. We are going to be lucky to be a cap floor team next year. If I were GM, here's what I'd do right now:

1/Sell Stajan to New Jersey, eat 1.4 mill of salary & cap so that he is only 2.1 mill cap hit but only 1.1 mill in actual $$$ for a prospect & a 2nd rounder. If New Jersey dont want him, I'm sure someone will at that price.
2/ Sell Cammi to the Bruins & eat 2.0 mill of his salary & cap hit for this & remainder of next year for that Koko & Bruins 1st rounder. Bruins need the scoring.
3/I would try to entice Philly with JBO, eat another 2.0 mill this years & next year salary & cap space + the 2nd rounder we acquired from Stajan+ Koko we acquired from Bruins for Couturier & their 1st. If that didnt work then back to plan B & sell JBO to the highest bidder of Detroit, St louis or Ottawa & be sure a 1st rounder & a top prospect is coming back. JBO we can almost not have to eat any salary, unless St louis give us a 2013 1st & a 2014 1st & a top prospect (Rattie?) if we eat 2.0 of salary & cap space because they have some contracts to renew coming up with players they want to keep.

Why eat 3-5 million in dead salary next year? Well how is that much different than the 4.5 mill in salary we have healthy scratched with Sarich & Babchuk for most of this year? It helps us get way more value back & next year is going to be a long tough year. There will be no sniffing at UFA's or buying at the trade deadline. We will be as close to a cap floor team as we have ever been since the D Sutter era & the birth of Salary Cap in the nHL.

Then I would go all in at the draft & assuming we are probably going to have a top 5 pick, try to get a 2nd top 5 pick. I would use 2 of of the later 1st rounders we acquired & dangle one of our few decent prospects like Reinhart, Wotherspoon maybe even Broissoit in a package for a top 5 pick. Overpay if you have to, but thats where we start to rebuild around a few future franchise players & hope that Sven & Gaudreau also become important core players in the future.

But thats just me. WTF do I know?
- Kevin R

I could see Philly wanting Jbo, but I dont think they are interested in moving either Couturier or their top 5 pick this year.

I think Cammi will be a tough sell. Attitide issues and his contract. I dont see him fitting in Boston.

I could see Philly wanting Jbo, but I dont think they are interested in moving either Couturier or their top 5 pick this year.

I think Cammi will be a tough sell. Attitide issues and his contract. I dont see him fitting in Boston.
- Iggysbff

Well, he scores goals & thats is what Boston needs, especially if they come in 2nd on some of the other pieces being auctioned. We carry a few mill of his cap & all of a sudden, you may have a piece worth adding for the playoffs. I dont think he would all that bad of a fit & I'm sure Mr Lucic will keep any attitude in check. Would be funny to see him come back & burn the Canadians from a Bruin perspective.
Agree, Couturier will be hard to extract from Philly, but I wouldnt rule it out, but yeah cant see prying their 1st rounder out either, maybe at the draft if we overpay, which is something I would do.

j blo - 0 BIG FAT ZERO playoff points in 15 years OF PRO AND MINOR HOCKEY
not exactly what a team trying to make run in the playoffs is looking for

Kenny Agostino had 1g 1a in upset of Minnesota just now. Took puck in corner threw it in front for assist 7 sec into ot. So Iggy may be gone but so far that is good news for Flames.

j blo - 0 BIG FAT ZERO playoff points in 15 years OF PRO AND MINOR HOCKEY
not exactly what a team trying to make run in the playoffs is looking for
- all mighty oil

Everyone harassed me years ago when I called him severely over rated when he was the big time available FA.

Colin- I like you blogs, and more so, the fact that you don't go on disappearing acts. However, where is the game day blog? I realize Iggy is gone and they are just playing out the stretch, but don't go Vetter on us.

Every blog doesn't have to be an Esplin essay, but a few paragraphs per game is appreciated.

Thanks

Chicago doesn't have a goaltending problem if they just keep playing Emery. I really don't see a market for Kipper
- Lanny9

IT is quite funny that you now think you don't see a market, after spending about 12 to 14 posts this week disparaging his name and spewing vitriol.
So which is it? Negative or negative?

IT is quite funny that you now think you don't see a market, after spending about 12 to 14 posts this week disparaging his name and spewing vitriol.
So which is it? Negative or negative?
- FLflames34

negative

So Gio, GLencross, kipper are untouchables

So Gio, GLencross, kipper are untouchables
- Flames1977

Prob GlenX. Gio and Kip. doubt....unless it works. And, of course, Kip feels like it.
I am fine with all 3 staying. Trade JBo, and trade Kip in the offseason if he still wants to play. Keep GlenX. At all costs.

Prob GlenX. Gio and Kip. doubt....unless it works. And, of course, Kip feels like it.
I am fine with all 3 staying. Trade JBo, and trade Kip in the offseason if he still wants to play. Keep GlenX. At all costs.
- FLflames34

I may be crazy but how about Jbo to Columbus for 2 of their first rounders.

I may be crazy but how about Jbo to Columbus for 2 of their first rounders.
- Flames1977

That's crazy if you think you will get that back. Awesome, but crazy.

I may be crazy but how about Jbo to Columbus for 2 of their first rounders.
- Flames1977

Columbus is deep on D. They would never do that. They need Offense.

Smid and 2, 2 round picks for JBo

Smid and 2, 2 round picks for JBo
- Oilers4Life14

I'd do that. I am actually pouring out one for my boy Kip tonight. He is done.

as per TSN Kipper J Blo both willing to waive NTC


















But only to pittsburgh