i hear what youre saying...id be more than happy to give that money to visnovsky.

as crazy as it sounds, at this point, MOVING FORWARD, id rather have hickey than streit.

btw, cakrner signed a 2 year deal so youll be seeing a lot more of him next year as well.
- LetsGoIsles

our number 2 defenseman? Of course we will

I'd offer him either 3 years, $9 M or two years, $7.5 M. I think those are fair offers.
- Jethro09

That's not fair... he will get @ least 4.5 on the open market.

Hickey was originally projected to be a PP QB, but I don't think he's ready just yet. It's the only reason I'm okay with signing Streit for a year or two. That said, I don't want him filling a top pairing role as he's flat out awful in his own zone. I don't even think he's been all that good on the PP as he tends to have a terrible time keeping the puck in the zone. I'd much prefer Vis since he seems far more decisive with the puck but I simply don't see him resigning here.
- keaner17

And Hickey was drafted five years ago and is only now getting into an NHL lineup. There's good reason to believe Hickey won't ever be ready to be a top PP QB. Right now, the bread and butter of the Isles is the PP unit. You know Vis is gone after this season, if not sooner if he's dealt. There are teams all over hockey looking for good offensive d-men to QB the PP and people want to move on from Streit and not give him a two or three year extension because Thomas Hickey or Calvin de Haan MAY at some point in the future become a decent PP QB? It makes no sense to me. People on this board are acting as if Streit is Mike Mottau or Bruno Gervais.

That's not fair... he will get @ least 4.5 on the open market.
- jimmc7722

and he should defeinitely go out and get it after we trade him.

i hear what youre saying...id be more than happy to give that money to visnovsky.

as crazy as it sounds, at this point, MOVING FORWARD, id rather have hickey than streit.

btw, cakrner signed a 2 year deal so youll be seeing a lot more of him next year as well.
- LetsGoIsles

I can't agree with that, unless you want to have the PP regress. And I thought Carkner's was a three year deal?

I think you're too down on Poulin. Something's off with him, I agree, but his reaction time is much quicker than Nilsson. Koskinen...let's face it, the guy's like 9'7 and looks 4'2 in the net...not sure how he even manages that. Poulin's faults are fixable...rebound control and some adjustments to positioning. He has the athleticism to be an NHL goaltender, imo.
- UIF

Already Nilsson is better then Poulin... his only question mark is his health. That is not to say Poulin cant be a starting goaltender. But Nilsson has the tools to be a star.

XxNYIxX

and he should defeinitely go out and get it after we trade him.
- Cptmjl

Where do we find new defenceman.... waiver wire?

And Hickey was drafted five years ago and is only now getting into an NHL lineup. There's good reason to believe Hickey won't ever be ready to be a top PP QB. Right now, the bread and butter of the Isles is the PP unit. You know Vis is gone after this season, if not sooner if he's dealt. There are teams all over hockey looking for good offensive d-men to QB the PP and people want to move on from Streit and not give him a two or three year extension because Thomas Hickey or Calvin de Haan MAY at some point in the future become a decent PP QB? It makes no sense to me. People on this board are acting as if Streit is Mike Mottau or Bruno Gervais.
- Jethro09

I don't think that's the case? I just don't think Streit is that great, he served his purpose, he's getting old, his defensive play seems to get worse with each year, he coughs up the puck on the PP almost as much as Boyes does, and it's time for Tavares to be captain of this team. Time for changes with this club. This route does'nt seem to be working so great. Can't keep doing the same shat all the time. Trade him while he has value.

Where do we find new defenceman.... waiver wire?
- jimmc7722

yes, we are the NY Islanders

I can't agree with that, unless you want to have the PP regress. And I thought Carkner's was a three year deal?
- Jethro09

kill me now

I don't think that's the case? I just don't think Streit is that great, he served his purpose, he's getting old, his defensive play seems to get worse with each year, he coughs up the puck on the PP almost as much as Boyes does, and it's time for Tavares to be captain of this team. Time for changes with this club. This route does'nt seem to be working so great. Can't keep doing the same shat all the time. Trade him while he has value.
- Cptmjl

Why? Why do the Isles have to sew a "C" on Tavares' sweater? Does that change anything either on the ice or off? Everyone outside that locker room already knows JT is the face, heartbeat and leader of this franchise. I'm sure its the same inside the locker room too, although I can't state that for certain since I'm not inside the locker room. You don't think that JT is leading this team in the room and on the ice just as well with an "A" on his sweater as he would be if he had the "C"?

You don't trade away Mark Streit and go into next season with no solid offensive defensmen to QB the PP so you can sew a "C" on Tavares' sweater.

And Hickey was drafted five years ago and is only now getting into an NHL lineup. There's good reason to believe Hickey won't ever be ready to be a top PP QB. Right now, the bread and butter of the Isles is the PP unit. You know Vis is gone after this season, if not sooner if he's dealt. There are teams all over hockey looking for good offensive d-men to QB the PP and people want to move on from Streit and not give him a two or three year extension because Thomas Hickey or Calvin de Haan MAY at some point in the future become a decent PP QB? It makes no sense to me. People on this board are acting as if Streit is Mike Mottau or Bruno Gervais.
- Jethro09

not saying this is necessarily the case but everyone knows defensemen take longer to develop...ask mike milbury.

the kings management were HOPING hickey would slip thru the waiver wire; make no mistake they were forced to put him on waivers and did not want to lose him. im not saying he is the answer but just bc he was a waiver wire pick up doesnt mean he is another keith aucoin.

if we are going to throw money at a player and overpay for said player, id much rather throw it at visnovsky who, despite being a year older than streit, looks much quicker and stronger than streit AND hasnt shown signs of slowing down.

Why? Why do the Isles have to sew a "C" on Tavares' sweater? Does that change anything either on the ice or off? Everyone outside that locker room already knows JT is the face, heartbeat and leader of this franchise. I'm sure its the same inside the locker room too, although I can't state that for certain since I'm not inside the locker room. You don't think that JT is leading this team in the room and on the ice just as well with an "A" on his sweater as he would be if he had the "C"?

You don't trade away Mark Streit and go into next season with no solid offensive defensmen to QB the PP so you can sew a "C" on Tavares' sweater.
- Jethro09

I have wondered this for a long time... I have been on many teams & the C on a sweater never made that guy any different then before.

XxNYIxX

Already Nilsson is better then Poulin... his only question mark is his health. That is not to say Poulin cant be a starting goaltender. But Nilsson has the tools to be a star.

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Nilsson's a different type of goaltender. Better? I don't know about that. Poulin is still the guy who put up a .924 save% in 10 NHL starts on a horribly bad 2010-11 Isles team. Not much of a body of work, but still a bigger accomplishment than anything Nilsson's done to date. He hasn't put up gaudy numbers since that freak knee thing.

Just my observations, but Nilsson is more positional and I guess cerebral than Poulin. Poulin relies more on reaction and reflexes. But both can look pretty darn bad...Poulin when he gets too active in his crease, and Nilsson when he relies too much on outguessing shooters rather than reacting to them.

I can't agree with that, unless you want to have the PP regress. And I thought Carkner's was a three year deal?
- Jethro09

correct...my bad

not saying this is necessarily the case but everyone knows defensemen take longer to develop...ask mike milbury.

the kings management were HOPING hickey would slip thru the waiver wire; make no mistake they were forced to put him on waivers and did not want to lose him. im not saying he is the answer but just bc he was a waiver wire pick up doesnt mean he is another keith aucoin.

if we are going to throw money at a player and overpay for said player, id much rather throw it at visnovsky who, despite being a year older than streit, looks much quicker and stronger than streit AND hasnt shown signs of slowing down.
- LetsGoIsles

Lets not forget that Vis can actually play both sides of the puck.

XxNYIxX

I can't agree with that, unless you want to have the PP regress. And I thought Carkner's was a three year deal?
- Jethro09

He signed a 3 year deal

They should rip the C off Streit give it to JT and make Cappy wear that dunce cap when he is behind the bench

Dee Karl: Isles: Contenders or Pretenders? Isles @ Flyers
If there was a word bigger than humongous, that would be it for this game.
- Dee Karl

Contenders or Pretenders?

They're pretending to contend. All just to screw Nassau Co.

Contenders or Pretenders?

They're pretending to contend. All just to screw Nassau Co.
- jmo16

And they should... they deserve it!!!

Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 5m

To those #Isles fans asking about Joensuu: Need roster spot for him to activated. Would mean waiving someone. They're not ready to do that.

There used to be a street named after PAP. But it was changed because nobody crosses PAP and lives.
- Jethro09

There is no such thing as global warming. PA Parenteau was cold, so he turned the sun up

I think you're too down on Poulin. Something's off with him, I agree, but his reaction time is much quicker than Nilsson. Koskinen...let's face it, the guy's like 9'7 and looks 4'2 in the net...not sure how he even manages that. Poulin's faults are fixable...rebound control and some adjustments to positioning. He has the athleticism to be an NHL goaltender, imo.
- UIF

once again the reason i'm down on poulin is i have watched about 100 of his starts..and he still has the same issues...at some point you are what you are...if he didn't fix his problems in the ahl why would they get fixed against better talent in the nhl? his reaction time is "better" than nilsson because he is out of position...you don't need to dive all over the place when you are square to the shooter...i do admit that playing once a month is not fair to him and thats challenging

And Hickey was drafted five years ago and is only now getting into an NHL lineup. There's good reason to believe Hickey won't ever be ready to be a top PP QB. Right now, the bread and butter of the Isles is the PP unit. You know Vis is gone after this season, if not sooner if he's dealt. There are teams all over hockey looking for good offensive d-men to QB the PP and people want to move on from Streit and not give him a two or three year extension because Thomas Hickey or Calvin de Haan MAY at some point in the future become a decent PP QB? It makes no sense to me. People on this board are acting as if Streit is Mike Mottau or Bruno Gervais.
- Jethro09

I'd say considering this is Hickey's first season in the NHL, he's looked pretty damn good. He's got a decent battle level!
with defensemen, you shouldn't expect them to mature in to a full time NHL role until 23-24 years old. Hickey is now 24. I wouldn't say it's taken him abnormally long to break the league.

Iginla only approved a move to the Pens, Bruins, Hawks or Kings. But the point is Boston's offer was better, Feaster did Iginla a solid in sending him where he wanted to go most but he did the Flames a terrible disservice by honouring Iginla's wishes. The Flames as an organization were in no position not to take the absolute best offer.
- canadianpenfan

I did hear on XM that Boston's first was conditional on them signing JI.