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Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
Young crowd..... I'm sure most will have no clue.


- PLindbergh31

i get the reference but only with Nurse
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
I'll be disappointed if they take another center.
- stveshdy


I won't reach to take Nurse but if he's within range then it's possible. We have to wait to know what spot they end up with
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
Young crowd..... I'm sure most will have no clue.


- PLindbergh31


Hot Lips?

I do know it, of course
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
That is more based on saying they finish with the 4th selection, that would be better odds on taking Barkov
- ob18

time will tell, sir
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
And since Barkov just wrecked his wrist, he seems like the perfect Flyer.
- PLindbergh31


Over 3 months till the draft he'll be fine, it won't hurt his stock at all.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
I'll be disappointed if they take another center.
- stveshdy


I wouldn't if its MacKinnon or Drouin assuming they address the defensive needs in some other way.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
oh god no please take it down i bet her boobs are so gross
- Don'tForgetTocchet

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
time will tell, sir
- Crimsoninja


Got 2 games going now, extra draft homework.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
if this draft is that solid, the flyers should be open to trading coburn for a 1st rndr+.
coby will rebound, but i think he looks like a guy who's a little too comfortable here. I'd want a top 4 prospect in addition to the pick...given what dreck is fetching these days, it's doable.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
Hot Lips?

I do know it, of course

- Jsaquella



Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
Got 2 games going now, extra draft homework.
- ob18

you are a machine


edit: i am scouting habs/bs
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
a yr ago, when i proposed trading a guy like schenn for him, about half the folks here were opposed... some vehemently. we have to project a guy who may be having a down yr if he is young enuf and has a certain pedigree. that's our best chance to snag a top pair guy, imo.

a guy like Tyler myers sucks right now, but...

- isaiah520


The trouble with TyMy is his massive contract. If he returns to the form he showed as a rookie, great. If not, you have a $5.7mm hit as a third pair defenseman
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
you are a machine
- Crimsoninja



only time will tell if he's a machine imo
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
you are a machine
- Crimsoninja


Oh, the picture potential here...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
Teams seem to know that if you put enough pressure on this team they crack.

One of the things that really concerned me was seeing the teams's record vs the rags and devils. It is awful.

I think that over the summer there needs to be some real changes to the team. From the total organization. What type of team do they want to be and own it, don't change every year. Build a identity. There are some really solid players on this team hat seem to not know who they are or how to play the game. The D is a mess, it needs to be completely overhauled. But bigger then the players is the identity of this team and coach to it. Have answers.

- LJF


I think you hit the key point. They don't know who they are, and how to play. that points in one direction. It's like a virus or a disease that has infected the entire team. The ability is there. But they play as individuals. They are fragile, and they don't know how to get out of this hole. The harder they try, the more frustrated they get. And then when something happens, they get down a goal or two. It all blows up. The players on this team, are not this bad. They lack direction. They've developed so many bad habits that haven't been corrected. Other teams against the Flyers are like a pack of Lions that pick out the wounded and the weak animal in the herd of gazelles to attack. The Rangers have been struggling offensively all year. Did they look like a struggling offensive team last night. It's not the players, it's the team that is the issue. If you know what I mean.

As far as the Defense is concerned. Meszaros injuries complicate the issue. But I think they're fine with Coburn, Schenn, and Grossmann. They need to find a replacement for Timonen for the future. And figure out if Gustafsson is going to be a piece moving forward.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
I wouldn't if its MacKinnon or Drouin assuming they address the defensive needs in some other way.
- opeth_pa


That would make sense if they were willing to trade another young center away to bring back a puck moving defenseman.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:17 PM ET
only time will tell if he's a machine imo
- Don'tForgetTocchet

ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:18 PM ET
you are a machine
- Crimsoninja


Wanted to see Anthony Mantha of Val-dOr and figured I'd also check in on Darnell Nurse.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:18 PM ET
oh god no please take it down i bet her boobs are so gross
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Nurse Ratched is a hotty mchotster.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:19 PM ET
Wanted to see Anthony Mantha of Val-dOr and figured I'd also check in on Darnell Nurse.
- ob18


Has he continued to play a strong game?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:19 PM ET
I respect Timonen big time but he has clearly lost a step. On a good team he'd be 2nd pair guy; on a cup team he'd anchor the 3rd pair, play on the pp and move up to the 2nd pair late in games.
- BiggE


He has lost a step. But he's still a top 4 defenseman on any team in the League.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 27 @ 9:19 PM ET
Anyone that was against trading for Subban was clearly not looking at the talent he brings in a position we needed even then.

I can't believe their is a single Flyers fan that would not want him and if their is then they are blind.

- opeth_pa

a yr ago, that was a lot of talk about his maturity issues and that was a turn off for some...he also seemed to save some of his most egregious turnovers for gms against us, but you're right, we have to look past that.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 27 @ 9:20 PM ET
Young crowd..... I'm sure most will have no clue.


- PLindbergh31




The Grandmother from Flowers in the Attic? **Shudders**
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:20 PM ET
Has he continued to play a strong game?
- Jsaquella


Yeah he hasn't been a part of the 2 goals but he's made some hits, skating pretty good, just notice he's not using his size enough to protect the puck when driving the net.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 9:20 PM ET
a yr ago, when i proposed trading a guy like schenn for him, about half the folks here were opposed... some vehemently. we have to project a guy who may be having a down yr if he is young enuf and has a certain pedigree. that's our best chance to snag a top pair guy, imo.

a guy like Tyler myers sucks right now, but...

- isaiah520


But what? Do you really think Buffalo is going to trade Myers?
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