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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:22 PM ET
It's kind of hard to admit, but I want this season done already, and I think the team does as well.

Takes us to the draft, and makes moves in the summer.

- flyer_nutter


I think that's the biggest problem. The team wants the Season done.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:23 PM ET
It's kind of hard to admit, but I want this season done already, and I think the team does as well.

Takes us to the draft, and makes moves in the summer.

- flyer_nutter

fasten your seat belts, its going to be a bumpy ride
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:23 PM ET
At this point, who really cares. The season is over. I don't mind Gustafsson playing, he should have been playing all along instead of Gervais.
- PLindbergh31


You think there wasn't a legitimate reason for sending Gustafsson down? Had to be something.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 27 @ 6:23 PM ET
Not here to start any crap, but a quick question? Why is everybody on this site(well may be not everybody but a majority) of you so opposed to dealing couturier? If there is a deal out there to be made for Bobby Ryan, why not pull the trigger? In my opinion, what Giroux is lacking is a true scorer to play along side of him.
- bigdaddywaite



Because the last of the issues the Flyers should worry about is a winger to play along side him.

Short of his +/- he is still averaging a a little under a point a game while Voracek is averaging more.

If the Flyers move Couturier it needs to be for a number 1 or 2 dman.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:24 PM ET
He has 5 months to get ready. Need to see what the prognosis and Medical evaluation is. Can't buyout an injured player.
- MJL


I'm aware. The achilles I buy is a freak injury, could happen to anyone. The shoulder injury is a chronic one. These hits he is taking aren't huge, basically it's regular game wear and tear. I'm sure shoulder surgery is upcoming. I don't want a dman who has his shoulder being held together with spit and glue.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:25 PM ET
You think there wasn't a legitimate reason for sending Gustafsson down? Had to be something.
- MJL


Well why recall him then? He's ironed out the issues? Or are they simply recalling him because Lilja is an awful player who can't play in the NHL anymore?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
Trade Coburn, shut down Timonen for the season and go with a D of Grossmann,Schenn, Gervais, Foster, Gus and Manning/Lilja. Pretty sure that will clinch a top 3 pick!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
I'm aware. The achilles I buy is a freak injury, could happen to anyone. The shoulder injury is a chronic one. These hits he are taking aren't huge, basically it's regular game wear and tear. I'm sure shoulder surgery is upcoming. I don't want a dman who has his shoulder being held together with spit and glue.
- PLindbergh31


It is chronic. It obviously can't take the punishment right now. So they need to figure out how to fix it, or if it can even be fixed. It's not the end of the World. If anything. If it's needs to be fixed. This gives them more time to do it. And for the Achillies to heal further.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
I think that's the biggest problem. The team wants the Season done.
- MJL


Thats where a coaching change would come into play for me.

No matter what, and how I feel about Lava, I do not want them ending off the season this way. In the season that must not be spoken of they added Upshall and Biron, which helped things a bit.

I dont believe they can make moves to really change things up enough right now, they need to bring in another coach. I dont want the young kids ending the year off this way. They need some hope, and they have none right now.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:26 PM ET
It's kind of hard to admit, but I want this season done already, and I think the team does as well.

Takes us to the draft, and makes moves in the summer.

- flyer_nutter


Before I was thinking wow we have a real shot at Nurse, Pulock, etc.

But my God we are looking at one of Drouin, Mackinnon, Jones and thats so much better than the same 1st round exit crap. These kids are too young to be scarred by the losing. But it needs to turn around starting next year.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
Trade Coburn, shut down Timonen for the season and go with a D of Grossmann,Schenn, Gervais, Foster, Gus and Manning/Lilja. Pretty sure that will clinch a top 3 pick!
- BiggE

thats not even a good AHL D
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:27 PM ET
Well why recall him then? He's ironed out the issues? Or are they simply recalling him because Lilja is an awful player who can't play in the NHL anymore?
- PLindbergh31


Have they recalled him?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:28 PM ET
Have they recalled him?
- MJL


Yes
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 27 @ 6:31 PM ET
thats not even a good AHL D
- vejim


It doesn't have to be, just has to be good enough to guarantee us 1 of Jones, Drouin or MacKinnon.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:31 PM ET
Before I was thinking wow we have a real shot at Nurse, Pulock, etc.

But my God we are looking at one of Drouin, Mackinnon, Jones and thats so much better than the same 1st round exit crap. These kids are too young to be scarred by the losing. But it needs to turn around starting next year.

- Just5


I understand being excited to pick a good player.

It still doesnt take away the sting from this season. No matter what, I dont like to see them lose. I could live with it in a rebuild mode, but I dont like it.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:33 PM ET
It doesn't have to be, just has to be good enough to guarantee us 1 of Jones, Drouin or MacKinnon.
- opeth_pa

If we can somehow get Jones and Nurse, I would be flabbergasted
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
If we can somehow get Jones and Nurse, I would be flabbergasted
- vejim



Pretty much would make this season worth it to me tbh.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:37 PM ET
Coburn is 18th in the NHL in hits among defenseman. And honestly, I don't want him skating the puck up ice. I want him passing it off to the forwards, and let them bring the puck up ice.
- MJL

seriously? His mobility is an untapped asset. Why would you not want him to utilize it?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 27 @ 6:41 PM ET
If we can somehow get Jones and Nurse, I would be flabbergasted
- vejim


They would only be tasked with becoming our top pairing in 3 months
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 27 @ 6:47 PM ET
I understand being excited to pick a good player.

It still doesnt take away the sting from this season. No matter what, I dont like to see them lose. I could live with it in a rebuild mode, but I dont like it.

- flyer_nutter

Even in a rebuild it'd be painful to watch them lose. Understandable, but painful.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:47 PM ET
They would only be tasked with becoming our top pairing in 3 months
- Just5

why, we have Grevais and Foster
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 27 @ 6:51 PM ET
the Habs were terrible last year, not so much this year. Gives one hope.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 27 @ 7:00 PM ET
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 27 @ 7:00 PM ET
If the Flyers even have Meszaros as part of their plans next season, they have to have their heads examined.

Hooray, another player that should be bought out.

- PLindbergh31

He can be dealt
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Mar 27 @ 7:00 PM ET
We have so much $$$ invested in this D and it is so awful...
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