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jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:12 AM ET
They can add Bouwmeester or Campbell without buying out Timonen, as long as they buy out Briere.

If they buy out Briere and trade, say Matt Read and a 2nd rounder for Bouwmeester, they can afford a top six of Bouwmeester, Schenn, Timonen, Coburn, Grossmann and Meszaros.

No need to do anything else. Then after next season, you have $10mm coming off in Timonen and Meszaros and can still use a buyout on Bryz if he continues to struggle with consistency

- Jsaquella


If they can get Bouwmeister for Read and a 2nd then I'm all for it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:15 AM ET
If they can get Bouwmeister for Read and a 2nd then I'm all for it.
- jstross


Even if they can't, they're going to go balls to the wall to get a number one defenseman. They get one, even if it's trading Couturier, and buy out Briere, they have ample cap room to fit Timonen for one year.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 28 @ 12:21 AM ET
Even if they can't, they're going to go balls to the wall to get a number one defenseman. They get one, even if it's trading Couturier, and buy out Briere, they have ample cap room to fit Timonen for one year.
- Jsaquella


I probably presented it wrong. Lets say the Flyers can gain assete that will help in years 3+ and have to fit them under the cap now. Let's say after the Briere buyout and a management decision that Bryz is the way to they can't fit without $6 million in cap relief. It could happen. Just thinking outloud.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 12:27 AM ET
Iginla officially a Bruin.

Moved for the two kids listed, and a conditional 1st round pick. TSN saying its thought to be a 1st rounder if he re-signs in Boston.

If that is the best deal Feaster could find then so be it, but the Bruins made out good.

From all accounts the two prospects are somewhat risky, and a conditional first? Good trade for Boston.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:33 AM ET
Iginla officially a Bruin.

Moved for the two kids listed, and a conditional 1st round pick. TSN saying its thought to be a 1st rounder if he re-signs in Boston.

If that is the best deal Feaster could find then so be it, but the Bruins made out good.

From all accounts the two prospects are somewhat risky, and a conditional first? Good trade for Boston.

- flyer_nutter


Jesus H Christ Holmgren get on the Phone and get Bouwmeester, Girodano and anybody half decent before Feaster gets fired...you got about twenty minutes
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 28 @ 12:35 AM ET
Maybe if it was an auction draft. Actually, scratch that, flawless plan.
- BoomGoesTheCoburn



I experienced a rollercoaster of emotions reading this short sentence, but when I was finished I was happy.

Gotta support the team.


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 12:37 AM ET
Jesus H Christ Holmgren get on the Phone and get Bouwmeester, Girodano and anybody half decent before Feaster gets fired...you got about twenty minutes
- Jsaquella


And Ryan O'Reilly just scores to bring the Avs within 1
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 28 @ 12:39 AM ET
Iginla officially a Bruin.

Moved for the two kids listed, and a conditional 1st round pick. TSN saying its thought to be a 1st rounder if he re-signs in Boston.

If that is the best deal Feaster could find then so be it, but the Bruins made out good.

From all accounts the two prospects are somewhat risky, and a conditional first? Good trade for Boston.

- flyer_nutter



I find that odd. It's no Despres, 1st and something like what was reported he wanted from the Pens. I find it hard to believe they weren't offered a package that included the 1st and Joe Morrow prior to the B.Morrow trade.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:43 AM ET
And Ryan O'Reilly just scores to bring the Avs within 1
- flyer_nutter


How the (frank) do you trade a franchise player, who was in your city for 16 years, and was seemingly willing to allow bidding to get you a better price, for a guy who could be anything between Alex Semin and Pavel Brendl, a 6th defenseman and a conditional first rounder!?!?!?!?!?!

The Oilers got more for Dustin Penner
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 12:44 AM ET
How does Feaster not get the 1st as a sure thing? So what if he doesnt resign in Boston? He could sign with 28 other teams next year and it would still cost the 1st.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 28 @ 12:46 AM ET
How does Feaster not get the 1st as a sure thing? So what if he doesnt resign in Boston? He could sign with 28 other teams next year and it would still cost the 1st.
- hereticpride



Then he just traded the future HOFamer and heart of the team for 2 maybes. He's a disaster.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 12:47 AM ET
How the (frank) do you trade a franchise player, who was in your city for 16 years, and was seemingly willing to allow bidding to get you a better price, for a guy who could be anything between Alex Semin and Pavel Brendl, a 6th defenseman and a conditional first rounder!?!?!?!?!?!

The Oilers got more for Dustin Penner

- Jsaquella


I want Holmgren to be all over Calgary. Target Giordano and Glencross.

Iginla more than likely makes his debut against the Flyers. TSN guys are saying it. For (frank)s sake.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:49 AM ET
How does Feaster not get the 1st as a sure thing? So what if he doesnt resign in Boston? He could sign with 28 other teams next year and it would still cost the 1st.
- hereticpride


Looking at Boston's cap situation, it's going to be hard to re-sign him.

Holy Hell.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:50 AM ET
I want Holmgren to be all over Calgary. Target Giordano and Glencross.

Iginla more than likely makes his debut against the Flyers. TSN guys are saying it. For (frank)s sake.

- flyer_nutter


That's win-win...we get closer to Jones, MacKinnon or Drouin and get to see Iggy
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 12:52 AM ET
That's win-win...we get closer to Jones, MacKinnon or Drouin and get to see Iggy
- Jsaquella

Actuslly Calgary just pretty much ensured they'll be picking top 3 by trading their captain for a whole bunch of ifs and whathaveyous.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:53 AM ET
Actuslly Calgary just pretty much ensured they'll be picking top 3 by trading their captain for a whole bunch of ifs and whathaveyous.
- hereticpride


FEASTER COULD HAVE WAITED ANOTHER (frank)ING WEEK TO SEE IF HE GOT A BETTER OFFER!!!!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 28 @ 12:54 AM ET
FEASTER COULD HAVE WAITED ANOTHER (frank)ING WEEK TO SEE IF HE GOT A BETTER OFFER!!!!
- Jsaquella

But with so many players getting concussed in practice one can never be too safe.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 12:56 AM ET
FEASTER COULD HAVE WAITED ANOTHER (frank)ING WEEK TO SEE IF HE GOT A BETTER OFFER!!!!
- Jsaquella


He's (frank)ing crazy.

Honestly makes me feel much better about the Flyers. Even if that pick ends up not being conditional.

Detriot is apparently going hard after J-Bow (Dreger on TSN). Maybe for an octopus?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:57 AM ET
But with so many players getting concussed in practice one can never be too safe.
- hereticpride


Just wrap him in bubble wrap for a week. If I'm the Penguins, I'm on the phone asking if this is indeed all it would take, and then I'd promise to better it and get Iginla myself.

A scout just told a reporter on twitter that the defenseman is probably not as skilled as Chris Butler
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 12:58 AM ET
He's (frank)ing crazy.

Honestly makes me feel much better about the Flyers. Even if that pick ends up not being conditional.

Detriot is apparently going hard after J-Bow (Dreger on TSN). Maybe for an octopus?

- flyer_nutter


Every GM should be on the phone with Feaster. Like right now.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 12:59 AM ET
Just wrap him in bubble wrap for a week. If I'm the Penguins, I'm on the phone asking if this is indeed all it would take, and then I'd promise to better it and get Iginla myself.

A scout just told a reporter on twitter that the defenseman is probably not as skilled as Chris Butler

- Jsaquella


TSN: "Hes a 5/6 guy who isnt as skilled as Butler, but slightly more competative"
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 1:00 AM ET
TSN: "Hes a 5/6 guy who isnt as skilled as Butler, but slightly more competative"
- flyer_nutter

canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 28 @ 1:03 AM ET
Just wrap him in bubble wrap for a week. If I'm the Penguins, I'm on the phone asking if this is indeed all it would take, and then I'd promise to better it and get Iginla myself.

A scout just told a reporter on twitter that the defenseman is probably not as skilled as Chris Butler

- Jsaquella



Wouldn't one just assume the GM trading the prize would have placed a call to all interested parties letting them know the details of the trade they were going to accept to give everyone else chance to better it? Isn't that like GM 101? Again, Feaster is a disaster.

Unless Feaster knew ahead of time that he had another potential Chris Butler, that changes everything.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 28 @ 1:04 AM ET
The Philadelphia Flyers got more for an injury prone and really declining Peter Forsberg.

Zhitnik brought more value than Iginla.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 28 @ 1:06 AM ET
Wouldn't one just assume the GM trading the prize would have placed a call to all interested parties letting them know the details of the trade they were going to accept to give everyone else chance to better it? Isn't that like GM 101? Again, Feaster is a disaster.

Unless Feaster knew ahead of time that he had another potential Chris Butler, that changes everything.

- canadianpenfan


It's inexplicable. I feel bad for all the fun I'm poking on twitter, because I have a few friends who are Flames fans, and they're livid
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