If may be a ready NHL defenseman and a 3rd rounder. The trade deadline is the best opportunity for a team to overpay for him. I'll say this again the Flyers dont have to move him if they feel its not worth it.
- stveshdy

They really shouldn't be moving him at all. Only if they get blown away with an offer. Which I don't see happening.

See here's the thing, according to Ren Lavoie of RDS, they're basically saying that Max Talbot isn't available.

That tells me, the Flyers expect to be in the running next season. That means Coburn isn't getting dealt, either, in all likelihood.
- Jsaquella

I honestly don't know why either of them would be available. Unless it's an offer that they can't refuse. Which is unlikely.

See here's the thing, according to Ren Lavoie of RDS, they're basically saying that Max Talbot isn't available.

That tells me, the Flyers expect to be in the running next season. That means Coburn isn't getting dealt, either, in all likelihood.
- Jsaquella

Honestly, I dont think the Flyers are going to deal Coburn either. I just want them to keep an open mind with any player on the roster. If they can strike a great deal than you cant be afraid (which I think the GM isnt).

I honestly don't know why either of them would be available. Unless it's an offer that they can't refuse. Which is unlikely.
- MJL

That's kind of how I see it, too. They either need to get a guy who can reasonably be expected to play as a 4th guy immediately(plus other assets) or have a plan to land one reasonably.

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Honestly, I dont think the Flyers are going to deal Coburn either. I just want them to keep an open mind with any player on the roster. If they can strike a great deal than you cant be afraid (which I think the GM isnt).
- stveshdy

We know he's not afraid

I'm sure he'd be open to a deal if they got enough in return

They really shouldn't be moving him at all. Only if they get blown away with an offer. Which I don't see happening.
- MJL

Something needs to be done on the blueline. I keep hearing the talent is there but for the last two-three years they have been too inconsistant for my liking. I hope they make some serious adjustments (not necessarily trades) like identity first.

Damn! Habs tied it up.

We know he's not afraid

I'm sure he'd be open to a deal if they got enough in return
- Jsaquella

Lets say they moved Coburn for an NHL ready dman and 3rd rounder.

They then trade a forward Schenn, Read, etc for Yandle.

They draft a player like Nurse.

I don't see how this team is any worse off than having Coburn. Thats just my opinion. I understand why you guys wouldnt want to move him though.

well Mezaros is hurt again not that he was doing much any way but things are going from bad to worse .....and again nothing is done to right the ship Lavy still has his job and so does Homer neither 1 of them deserve to be employed right now.... but for some reason they both still have their jobs ... maybe the flyers should take a page out of Tampa's book they had a under achieving and saw the need for a change and made 1 ( whether its right or wrong ).

Lets say they moved Coburn for an NHL ready dman and 3rd rounder.

They then trade a forward Schenn, Read, etc for Yandle.

They draft a player like Nurse.

I don't see how this team is any worse off than having Coburn. Thats just my opinion. I understand why you guys wouldnt want to move him though.
- stveshdy

The information is incomplete. Who is the NHL ready defenseman? How good of a young defenseman, do you think you're going to get for Coburn?

I'll be clear. I'm not against moving Coburn. I'm against moving him in a bad deal.

I don't think the defense is wretched. They have played wretchedly this short season, but I also think that Coburn can rebound to what he was last year in the right situation.

That said I do think changes are needed. They need to add a "top" defenseman for sure. I have much more faith in Coburn returning to form than Meszaros being able to stay healthy.

So, trading Coburn, to me, means landing at least one other defenseman besides that number one guy. Maybe that means a one year stop gap. Maybe it means rolling the dice on a guy like Myers.
- Jsaquella

if you are sellers at the TDL, by all means- cash in! mez surely is considered glass by some orgs, but coby is an asset teams would overpay for and i would def explore that. the thinking is that he's in a bad spot and he's been stalwart in the plyoffs before. in this mkt he would likely fetch a 1st and a solid prospect at least, prob more. I'd be all ears.

What would Calgary accept for Bouwmeister and Calgary giving $1.68 million in cap relief?

if you are sellers at the TDL, by all means- cash in! mez surely is considered glass by some orgs, but coby is an asset teams would overpay for and i would def explore that. the thinking is that he's in a bad spot and he's been stalwart in the plyoffs before. in this mkt he would likely fetch a 1st and a solid prospect at least, prob more. I'd be all ears.
- isaiah520

Better be a dam good prospect to make that deal. Or it's a mistake.

Schenn, Grossmann, Timonen, Coburn or Mez.

The rest need to go and one of Coburn or Mez should be dealt over the summer.
- stveshdy

sell now for the best return. let's take full advantage of sucking.

What would Calgary accept for Bouwmeister and Calgary giving $1.68 million in cap relief?
- jstross

They'd ask for at least one of the Flyers top young forwards.

Damn! Habs tied it up.
- opeth_pa

looks like a Pens/Flyers game broke out.

sell now for the best return. let's take full advantage of sucking.
- isaiah520

And then they can take advantage of the sucking again next year. This team other then Briere, shouldn't be making wholesale deals for picks and prospects.

The information is incomplete. Who is the NHL ready defenseman? How good of a young defenseman, do you think you're going to get for Coburn?

I'll be clear. I'm not against moving Coburn. I'm against moving him in a bad deal.
- MJL

Whats a bad deal? If I understand you correctly you want back a player whos basically on his level? I dont see a team giving you that b/c they are looking to upgrade. Giving up a young NHL ready defenseman who has 3-4 upside is what your looking at with a 3rd round.

Now that may not be enough to make a deal in your eyes. Thats the best example I can give at this moment.

They'd ask for at least one of the Flyers top young forwards.
- MJL

It always seems to get back to that.

Whats a bad deal? If I understand you correctly you want back a player whos basically on his level? I dont see a team giving you that b/c they are looking to upgrade. Giving up a young NHL ready defenseman who has 3-4 upside is what your looking at with a 3rd round.

Now that may not be enough to make a deal in your eyes. Thats the best example I can give at this moment.
- stveshdy

But your not giving me an example. Your giving a general description of a player. Do you honestly think a smart GM is going to give up a young player with the level of future potential that would make it worthwhile in trading Coburn? I don't. It's not impossible, but it's not likely. The Flyers cannot afford to trade Coburn, and miss on the deal.
A bad deal is trading Coburn for a marginal prospect. Or a 1st round pick that's not a high pick.

And then they can take advantage of the sucking again next year. This team other then Briere, shouldn't be making wholesale deals for picks and prospects.
- MJL

Your expectations for this team are much higer next season then where I current am. I think they are not as close as people think. They have a lot of holes to fill. I think they can be competitive but being a serious contender could take some years.

It always seems to get back to that.
- jstross

Of course it does.

Your expectations for this team are much higer next season then where I current am. I think they are not as close as people think. They have a lot of holes to fill. I think they can be competitive but being a serious contender could take some years.
- stveshdy

What are my expectations? A lot can happen in a year.

But your not giving me an example. Your giving a general description of a player. Do you honestly think a smart GM is going to give up a young player with the level of future potential that would make it worthwhile in trading Coburn? I don't. It's not impossible, but it's not likely. The Flyers cannot afford to trade Coburn, and miss on the deal.
- MJL

So I'll ask you then what is a deal you would be looking for? What would it take to trade Coburn in your opinion?