You mean a healthy scratch?
- Deadstar

Exactly, you got it. A healthy scratch ready to contribute if called upon. Depth forward....but with his $3M next year I kind of gave up on the idea.

You gnats

But he has a 2 way contract, so why just send him down like Despres and call him back up in a bit
- drummer829

The contract type(2way vs 1way) has no bearing on whether a player is waiver eligible when being sent down. All it does is define what that player will be paid in the NHL vs minor leagues. Waiver eligibility has to do with games played and/or dressed depending on whether the player is a goalie(games played) or skater(games dressed). Too long to type, but if you want the full answer here it is:
http://www.mcsorleys-stic...l-waiver-rules-explained/

Exactly, you got it. A healthy scratch ready to contribute if called upon. Depth forward....but with his $3M next year I kind of gave up on the idea.
- Orpik44

Couldnt they pick him up and just buy him out in the offseason? Im not in favor of the idea but that would be an option.

Interesting---not really---well maybe---or not---possibly

From Scott Cullen on TSN:

Pittsburgh Penguins - After acquiring Brenden Morrow and Douglas Murray, the Pittsburgh Penguins may not be quite as desperate to add Iginla, but if the price is right, his offensive ability could help put them over the top in their bid for the Cup. Winger Beau Bennett seems like he's fitting in with the Penguins already, so he could be harder to pry away, but there are still a number of defence prospects including Simon Despres, Derrick Pouliot, Olli Maatta, Brian Dumoulin, Scott Harrington, Philip Samuelsson or Robert Bortuzzo could help form the cornerstone of a deal. Forward prospects, aside from Bennett, aren't as appealing, but perhaps collegiate prospect Kenneth Agostino (96 points in 97 career games at Yale) or Tom Kuehnhackl would be viable for inclusion.

Despres, Bennett and Harrington are definitely not going anywhere. Since they lost Morrow, trading Pouliot, another offensive defenseman like Morrow, would seem odd.

Couldnt they pick him up and just buy him out in the offseason? Im not in favor of the idea but that would be an option.
- Rawdog9755

Or send him back through waivers next year

Kuehnhackl, Bortuzzo and a first for Iginla signed for 2 years at 4 mil.... Done

Kuenhackl, Bortuzzo and a first for Iginla signed for 2 years at 4 mil.... Done
- nelson911

I loved how Morrow stuck up for his teammates after the 1st shift and after a day of knowing them (except Neal and Nisk), but you got that sense of the team player he is. I'm hoping Murray is exactly the same.

Even though I want the pens win streak to continue, I really wouldn't mind seeing Zatkoff get a start and see what he can do.

I loved how Morrow stuck up for his teammates after the 1st shift and after a day of knowing them (except Neal and Nisk), but you got that sense of the team player he is. I'm hoping Murray is exactly the same.

Even though I want the pens win streak to continue, I really wouldn't mind seeing Zatkoff get a start and see what he can do.
- drummer829

Look at Murray wrong, he will deck you.

Look at Murray wrong, he will deck you.
- Oneonta Penguin

Then it's 2 mins in the box

I loved how Morrow stuck up for his teammates after the 1st shift and after a day of knowing them (except Neal and Nisk), but you got that sense of the team player he is. I'm hoping Murray is exactly the same.

- drummer829

I'm guessing that we will see a fight from both of these guys in one of the remaining home games.

Kuehnhackl, Bortuzzo and a first for Iginla signed for 2 years at 4 mil.... Done
- nelson911

They would never take that.

Pouliot, Glass and a first for Iginla signed for 2 years at 4 mil.... Done

If you want a look at the PR side of the Pens and the job that Jennifer Bullano does, check out this article. It's a pretty good read:

http://espn.go.com/espnw/...llano-commanding-presence
- rival22

Very interesting read. Interesting comments on Malkin. "One of the most intelligent athletes you will ever meet." Revealing article.

So I got the preliminary roster done for 2013-14

FORWARDS
James Neal ($5.000m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / Jarome Iginla ($4.000m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.725m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Matt Cooke ($1.800m) / Brandon Sutter ($2.067m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.500m)
Brenden Morrow ($2.800m) / Joe Vitale ($0.550m) / Craig Adams ($0.675m)
DEFENSEMEN
Paul Martin ($5.000m) / Simon Despres ($0.840m)
Kris Letang ($3.500m) / Matt Niskanen ($2.300m)
Mark Eaton ($0.725m) / Brooks Orpik ($3.750m)
Deryk Engelland ($0.567m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Tomas Vokoun ($2.000m)
OTHER
Buried: Tanner Glass ($0.175m)

Then it's 2 mins in the box
- drummer829

and boom we are down 1-0

So I got the preliminary roster done for 2013-14

FORWARDS
James Neal ($5.000m) / Evgeni Malkin ($8.700m) / Jarome Iginla ($4.000m)
Chris Kunitz ($3.725m) / Sidney Crosby ($8.700m) / Beau Bennett ($0.900m)
Matt Cooke ($1.800m) / Brandon Sutter ($2.067m) / Pascal Dupuis ($1.500m)
Brenden Morrow ($2.800m) / Joe Vitale ($0.550m) / Craig Adams ($0.675m)
DEFENSEMEN
Paul Martin ($5.000m) / Simon Despres ($0.840m)
Kris Letang ($3.500m) / Matt Niskanen ($2.300m)
Mark Eaton ($0.725m) / Brooks Orpik ($3.750m)
Deryk Engelland ($0.567m) /
GOALTENDERS
Marc-Andre Fleury ($5.000m)
Tomas Vokoun ($2.000m)
OTHER
Buried: Tanner Glass ($0.175m)
- nelson911

We could get 2 straight cups if we play our best hockey with this roster. I'd add Douglas Murray to the core as well

and boom we are down 1-0
- Orpik44

I encourage him sticking up for the team and being a big tough guy on the ice, but hopefully he shows the discipline and doesn't take any stupid penalties at crucial times.

We could get 2 straight cups if we play our best hockey with this roster. I'd add Douglas Murray to the core as well

- Orpik44

He's a wait and see approach... we'll have to evaluate his skating ability in the pens system.... If he does well I see no problem trading Brooks Orpik and retaining him.

He's a wait and see approach... we'll have to evaluate his skating ability in the pens system.... If he does well I see no problem trading Brooks Orpik and retaining him.
- nelson911

I can see Murray taking the same heat Gill did. He's not a fast guy and people will talk bad about it but we have to see his hockey IQ and decision making. Hope he does well enough to rough some guys out of the box without taking penalties.

We could get 2 straight cups if we play our best hockey with this roster. I'd add Douglas Murray to the core as well

- Orpik44

Murray is strictly a rental. I get that sense from Shero's comments. We shall see.

Murray is strictly a rental. I get that sense from Shero's comments. We shall see.
- Oneonta Penguin

We let our rental go and we suffered on D after our 08/09 cup I mean, Gill was an important piece alongside Scuderi...if Murray does well, I wanna see him getting an extension for sure

We let our rental go and we suffered on D after our 08/09 cup I mean, Gill was an important piece alongside Scuderi...if Murray does well, I wanna see him getting an extension for sure
- Orpik44

Yea, but if the pens do make a long playoff run, then Murray's price goes up.

Yea, but if the pens do make a long playoff run, then Murray's price goes up.
- drummer829

I don't expect his price to go up any further than what he makes now...perhaps.
Murray is 33 years old and makes $2.5M I think...

Do you have any idea on how much will be Sutter's next contract? I'm shooting $4M per...

I dont see Murray playing tomorrow he is not skating with a D pairing. He is skating with Kadar. Thats weird.