i love it.. thats a great expression.. never heard it before
- Dozzer

Thats because you are the driver of the Struggle Bus dozzer.

Isn't Markam (sp) a big possibility right now?
- celata29

Markham will probably get an expansion team. League will make a boatload from expansion fee for another toronto team.

Ya ya......... i know, Leafs will not allow it. I believe they will.

Isn't Markam (sp) a big possibility right now?
- celata29

Markham is in Leafs territory. If they did manage to get a team they would have to pay one hell of a premium.

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 3m

JUssi Jokinen cleared waivers

Don't they need 66 or 75% of the vote to get rid of him? Not enough "rich" teams to overcome the expanding middle ground and bottom end.
- p_zub

Not sure about that. I know they needed 75% for the CBA negotiations. I don't know if that applies to them being able to fire him.

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 3m

JUssi Jokinen cleared waivers
- faceto27

Cap going down no one wanted his 3mil cap hit for next year..

Cap going down no one wanted his 3mil cap hit for next year..
- Fruitcakenipple

I'd take his 3mil for next year over Bozak wanting 4 mil plus for next year

Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 3m

Bruins claimed Daugavins on waivers

You're not a Bhawks fan, you'll get banned.
- AdamFrench

Nope definitely not a Hawks fan. Not trying to be a douche but your team is listed as the 'Yotes and your posting on the Leafs board

- celata29

Flyfreaky on that bus?

I'd take his 3mil for next year over Bozak wanting 4 mil plus for next year
- faceto27

Bozak isn't getting 4+

Then you get into the whole debate of whether they would be able to be competive. If not competitive then the franchise would die.

Catch 22 for the rich clubs.
- faceto27

I do wonder why Major League Baseball, which is always held up as the prime example of inequality in pro sports, doesn't seem to have teams dying off.

It's often said that the small market MLB teams can't compete with the big spenders, and yet, they hang around.

I think that brings us to the main issue at the core of the NHL's problems: hockey is not as popular as baseball. Baseball can sustain these small market teams because there's still a demand to see baseball in the US.

Is hockey popular enough in North America to sustain a 30 team league? Is there any collective bargaining agreement that could ever solve the NHL's problems?

Could you ever institute a system that allows balance between the Maple Leafs, Rangers, and Canadiens on one hand and the Coyotes, Lightning, and Panthers on the other?

If so, I've yet to see it.

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun 3m

JUssi Jokinen cleared waivers
- faceto27

Not surprised.

Nope definitely not a Hawks fan. Not trying to be a douche but your team is listed as the 'Yotes and your posting on the Leafs board
- Hockey_Hoser

Ya but I'm omniscient.

I'd take his 3mil for next year over Bozak wanting 4 mil plus for next year
- faceto27

Makes you even weaker at Center.

I'd take his 3mil for next year over Bozak wanting 4 mil plus for next year
- faceto27

If the Leafs are gonna upgrade over Bozak i sure as hell hope it's gonna be someone better than Jokinen..

Not surprised.
- burn

Sundin on tv talking about not accepting a trade back in the day.

Talking about Iggy and Kipper!!!

If the Leafs are gonna upgrade over Bozak i sure as hell hope it's gonna be someone better than Jokinen..
- Fruitcakenipple

or at the very least... better than Bozak (Jokinen certainly isn't this year)

I do wonder why Major League Baseball, which is always held up as the prime example of inequality in pro sports, doesn't seem to have teams dying off.

It's often said that the small market MLB teams can't compete with the big spenders, and yet, they hang around.

I think that brings us to the main issue at the core of the NHL's problems: hockey is not as popular as baseball. Baseball can sustain these small market teams because there's still a demand to see baseball in the US.

Is hockey popular enough in North America to sustain a 30 team league? Is there any collective bargaining agreement that could ever solve the NHL's problems?

Could you ever institute a system that allows balance between the Maple Leafs, Rangers, and Canadiens on one hand and the Coyotes, Lightning, and Panthers on the other?

If so, I've yet to see it.
- Leeman4Gilmour

In a nutshell........ you are bang on.

Makes you even weaker at Center.
- burn

Meh.......... They are equal in my eyes

Ya but I'm omniscient.
- AdamFrench

I need to get me some of that power! I'm utterly unknowing at this point.

chicago
- Dozzer

You might want to save Garnie... Howard's thinking of eating him for lunch.

or at the very least... better than Bozak (Jokinen certainly isn't this year)
- Big_Lightnin

I think getting the same position play would be. A big help in upgrading.

If the Leafs are gonna upgrade over Bozak i sure as hell hope it's gonna be someone better than Jokinen..
- Fruitcakenipple

I would hope so also, but if given the choice of Bozak at 4 mil or Jokinen at 3 mil. I choose the latter.

Caught were ya? What thread got you, post was deleted so can't track it down.
- LeafMan

I decided to let him bite the bullet to get rid of the Hoax thread.