Doggie style with a paper bag on
- Unholy_Forward

I'd have to be pretty drunk to be that desperate.

It allows us to explore the option of trading Kessel.
- Unholy_Forward

I would make a move for a guy like ryan at the expense of deeper pool, perhaps the d core. Trading Kessel sounds okay depending on for what, because if he goes and Ryan comes in at the expense Mac are they closer to the Stanley Cup?

He's missing because he's probably trying to pass it back to Kessel.
- mykokes

Bozak's no sniper, but he has pretty good vision for playmaking.

I'd have to be pretty drunk to be that desperate.
- Leafland

That was my assumption as well.

Bozak's no sniper, but he has pretty good vision for playmaking.
- aminnes

Makes some good passes. It's when he does those stupid one touch passes, where he gets it and boom tries to sneak one in, it never works.

He's missing because he's probably trying to pass it back to Kessel.
- mykokes

He has played 225 games in the NHL, most of those games he's been on the 1st line, with offensive players, playing in a wide open offensive system and he's only managed 124 points. That's a 45 point average. And he's 27. The conditions for him to put up points have nearly been ideal the only thing missing is his talent which doesn't exist. If he wishes to play another 225 games or more, he had better start watching video of John Madden and learn to play that role.

Bozak's shooting at a 17.65% clip, he'd be on pace for 20 goals, his career he's at 15%, both are solid numbers for an NHLer. If you get him away from Phil, maybe he stops thinking pass to phil all the time and actually shoots more. I'd love to see a video compilation of Bozak's goals on here, but I'm too lazy to find it, but I think you'd be surprised how many he creates himself both from being in the right spot for a rebound or rushing the puck in himself and dangling. I think he's a much better puck handler and scorer than passer or give and go guy.

I can't see how Kessel makes him better, and more importanly, I can't see how having him beside Kessel makes Kessel better.

I would make a move for a guy like ryan at the expense of deeper pool, perhaps the d core. Trading Kessel sounds okay depending on for what, because if he goes and Ryan comes in at the expense Mac are they closer to the Stanley Cup?
- aminnes

Ryan is a legit PF, he uses his body very well and gets in front of the net.
So far the Leafs haven't fallen in love with JvR but have given him a chance to perform. I say if we can upgrade him to Ryan it will give us room to move Kessel+ for something real special.

Bozak's shooting at a 17.65% clip, he'd be on pace for 20 goals, his career he's at 15%, both are solid numbers for an NHLer. If you get him away from Phil, maybe he stops thinking pass to phil all the time and actually shoots more. I'd love to see a video compilation of Bozak's goals on here, but I'm too lazy to find it, but I think you'd be surprised how many he creates himself both from being in the right spot for a rebound or rushing the puck in himself and dangling. I think he's a much better puck handler and scorer than passer or give and go guy.
- mykokes

2 of the nicest goals to start a career with.

Bozak's shooting at a 17.65% clip, he'd be on pace for 20 goals, his career he's at 15%, both are solid numbers for an NHLer. If you get him away from Phil, maybe he stops thinking pass to phil all the time and actually shoots more. I'd love to see a video compilation of Bozak's goals on here, but I'm too lazy to find it, but I think you'd be surprised how many he creates himself both from being in the right spot for a rebound or rushing the puck in himself and dangling. I think he's a much better puck handler and scorer than passer or give and go guy.
- mykokes

Facts and logic.. are immune to UG...

JvR, MacArthur and D'Amigo for Ryan and DSP
- Unholy_Forward

*faps*


done

Bozak's shooting at a 17.65% clip, he'd be on pace for 20 goals, his career he's at 15%, both are solid numbers for an NHLer. If you get him away from Phil, maybe he stops thinking pass to phil all the time and actually shoots more. I'd love to see a video compilation of Bozak's goals on here, but I'm too lazy to find it, but I think you'd be surprised how many he creates himself both from being in the right spot for a rebound or rushing the puck in himself and dangling. I think he's a much better puck handler and scorer than passer or give and go guy.

I can't see how Kessel makes him better, and more importanly, I can't see how having him beside Kessel makes Kessel better.
- mykokes

A very large majority of Bozaks goals would definatly be banking in shots point blank outfront...

2 of the nicest goals to start a career with.
- Leafland

All the reasons people come with as to why Grabo/Kessel can't play together to me or the exact reasons why Bozak/Kessel shouldn't still be a tandem 4 years later.

*faps*


done
- AdamFrench

So we're not paying enough in that deal?

All the reasons people come with as to why Grabo/Kessel can't play together to me or the exact reasons why Bozak/Kessel shouldn't still be a tandem 4 years later.
- mykokes

So it's settled, Kessel is dragging down others around him.

He is a black hole.

Did you ever try... it takes some practice... took me a few years..
- DoctorNHL

I had Richarded around with all different lengths, to this day in men's league my stick is no taller than my adams apple, tops.

Bozak's shooting at a 17.65% clip, he'd be on pace for 20 goals, his career he's at 15%, both are solid numbers for an NHLer. If you get him away from Phil, maybe he stops thinking pass to phil all the time and actually shoots more. I'd love to see a video compilation of Bozak's goals on here, but I'm too lazy to find it, but I think you'd be surprised how many he creates himself both from being in the right spot for a rebound or rushing the puck in himself and dangling. I think he's a much better puck handler and scorer than passer or give and go guy.

I can't see how Kessel makes him better, and more importanly, I can't see how having him beside Kessel makes Kessel better.
- mykokes

John Madden use to score goals too. His shooting percentage was also in the 13-14% range in his first two seasons. Didn't make him a good offensive player which is why the Devils were smart enough to make him play a shutdown role which is where Bozak belongs.

Ryan is a legit PF, he uses his body very well and gets in front of the net.
So far the Leafs haven't fallen in love with JvR but have given him a chance to perform. I say if we can upgrade him to Ryan it will give us room to move Kessel+ for something real special.
- Unholy_Forward

I would think keeping Kessel and JVR and acquiring Ryan would be the best move. The way to do that is to move younger assets in the system. I just don't see a better team than whats there now with that move. To say that people are unhappy with JVR or the Leafs haven't been is a little presumptuous, especially considering the scoring plays he's caused through his net presence and doesn't record a point on. This is a young team in a very short time period. JVR has played 30 games as a Leaf, the last thing they need is managing through impulse, which has plagued this club for half a century.

So it's settled, Kessel is dragging down others around him.

He is a black hole.
- Leafland

Not what I said!

I think JVR works well with Kessel, and I think Kadri would be a gold mine of goals for Kessel, but are we ready to do that yet? I mean Kessels still producing close to a PPG this year, do we want to stick all our eggs in one basket? And then there's the whole Kadri loses faceoffs thing.....either way, I don't have a definitive answer. I have a hope to see Grabo tried there first....that's it......

I had Richarded around with all different lengths, to this day in men's league my stick is no taller than my adams apple, tops.
- Bigzby

Nose on feet, chin on skates.

Not what I said!

I think JVR works well with Kessel, and I think Kadri would be a gold mine of goals for Kessel, but are we ready to do that yet? I mean Kessels still producing close to a PPG this year, do we want to stick all our eggs in one basket? And then there's the whole Kadri loses faceoffs thing.....either way, I don't have a definitive answer. I have a hope to see Grabo tried there first....that's it......
- mykokes

I've decided.......Kokes_For_Truth

Nose on feet, chin on skates.
- Leafland

2 or so inches shorter roughly, but basically. I like the control and feel of short stick.

2 or so inches shorter roughly, but basically. I like the control and feel of short stick.
- Bigzby

Thanks Kaberle.

2 or so inches shorter roughly, but basically. I like the control and feel of short stick.
- Bigzby

Oh...Didn't know the longer stick would cause issues..

Bozak's shooting at a 17.65% clip, he'd be on pace for 20 goals, his career he's at 15%, both are solid numbers for an NHLer. If you get him away from Phil, maybe he stops thinking pass to phil all the time and actually shoots more. I'd love to see a video compilation of Bozak's goals on here, but I'm too lazy to find it, but I think you'd be surprised how many he creates himself both from being in the right spot for a rebound or rushing the puck in himself and dangling. I think he's a much better puck handler and scorer than passer or give and go guy.

I can't see how Kessel makes him better, and more importanly, I can't see how having him beside Kessel makes Kessel better.
- mykokes

Umm without Kessel, you could probably kiss a good chunk of his points away.