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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 11:51 PM ET
Mac?Really good. Jones is franchise d-man.
- Orpik44


I literally change my opinion on who I like the best weekly, if not every other day.

Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 26 @ 11:51 PM ET
Can they be played? I'm not convinced they cannot. After all bob turned in the best performance if the Boston series after Lavy parked him in the press box for leighton. Another thing this coach does that drives me crazy; constant mismanagement of goaltenders. I still can't believe he won a cup juggling tenders. Who knows maybe he reinvented the wheel that year.
- JoeRussomanno

He Warded off the baby demons with the sacrifice of Gerber.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 26 @ 11:52 PM ET
One needs to look at what led to that decision. Laviolette went into the playoffs with Bobrovsky as his starter. By the second game, Bob was the third string goalie. He criminally mishandled his goalies in the 2011 playoffs, which led to Snider declaring that they would fix the goalie position. That led to Bryz getting a 9 year deal and Bob knowing he'd never get a real shot to start here.
- Jsaquella


I agree 100%....they gave up on a very athletic young goalie with a significant potential. Bob was a legitimate backup though at a reasonable price should have never been traded.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 26 @ 11:52 PM ET
I literally change my opinion on who I like the best weekly, if not every other day.
- Jsaquella

And now you're back to talking like Bernie Parent.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 26 @ 11:53 PM ET
That stuff on lavi 's resume looks a tad dry, a formaldehyde treatment is in order. Also he didn't win a cup here, IMO that too should not excuse poor performance even if he did win one here.
- JoeRussomanno

just busting man

there were a few holes in your logic. lavi prob should have been shown the door before the break they just had. it was the best chance to revitalize the team and try to make a run. now they're dead...
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 26 @ 11:53 PM ET
Can they be played? I'm not convinced they cannot. After all bob turned in the best performance if the Boston series after Lavy parked him in the press box for leighton. Another thing this coach does that drives me crazy; constant mismanagement of goaltenders. I still can't believe he won a cup juggling tenders. Who knows maybe he reinvented the wheel that year.
- JoeRussomanno


I dont see why Boosh cant get some pt but Leighton definitely cant boggles my mind why flyers re-signed him.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 26 @ 11:54 PM ET
As good, if not a bit better. Depends. Do you think Giroux is better than John Tavares? Because that's who MacKinnon compares to-and MacKinnon is a better skater.
- Jsaquella


Interesting, so I'm assuming your top 3 have a very good chance of playing in the NHL next year. I don't condone tanking, but the reality is I don't think this coach or leadership group has any idea how to get team back on track. It is unfortunate, but I believe it will be a very ugly remaining games. They just were casually skating all throughout the third period, no fight whatsoever.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 11:56 PM ET
I agree 100%....they gave up on a very athletic young goalie with a significant potential. Bob was a legitimate backup though at a reasonable price should have never been traded.
- flyerfan28


Bob was also a developing young player that needed the ice time to succeed, and as a pending RFA, could have jumped back to Russia to force a trade, like Semyon Varlamov threatened to do.

Once Bryz was signed, the writing was on the wall with Bob
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 26 @ 11:56 PM ET
Wait. Honey is that you? All this time I thought you were a pot head living at Churchill Downs
- Jsaquella




Not that I'd know anything about that, but these days I have 2 kids, I defend my PhD in April, and start a new job in July. Needless to say, I'd pass the pee test with the flyingest of colors.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 11:56 PM ET
And now you're back to talking like Bernie Parent.
- Flyskippy


Yes.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 26 @ 11:57 PM ET
Pittsburgh Penguins goalie Marc-Andre Fleury was replaced by Tomas Vokoun for the start of the third period of Tuesday night's game against the Montreal Canadiens.

Fleury, who is on a personal seven-game winning streak, appeared dazed after being inadvertently bowled into by teammate Tyler Kennedy during the final minute of the second period. Play was stopped for several moments while Fleury composed himself, and he remained in the game.


And Bob and Columbus currently 0 - 0 vs Vancouver.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 26 @ 11:57 PM ET
Interesting, so I'm assuming your top 3 have a very good chance of playing in the NHL next year. I don't condone tanking, but the reality is I don't think this coach or leadership group has any idea how to get team back on track. It is unfortunate, but I believe it will be a very ugly remaining games. They just were casually skating all throughout the third period, no fight whatsoever.
- ravishingone


I would bet the Top 5 play right away in the NHL of course lots can happen before then.....This team wont tank on purpose but they are bad enough that the chips should land them in the top 5 at least.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 11:58 PM ET


Not that I'd know anything about that, but these days I have 2 kids, I defend my PhD in April, and start a new job in July. Needless to say, I'd pass the pee test with the flyingest of colors.

- Lexington Flyer


Cool news on the PhD. My wife's cousin just defended hers, that's some stressful times, for sure.

Best of luck with all the changes and fun goings on coming up for you
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Mar 27 @ 12:00 AM ET
Bob was also a developing young player that needed the ice time to succeed, and as a pending RFA, could have jumped back to Russia to force a trade, like Semyon Varlamov threatened to do.

Once Bryz was signed, the writing was on the wall with Bob

- Jsaquella


You are correct and never thought of it in that angle...Who knows if he would have bailed to the KHL but at least the flyers would have had him for this season and who knows could have fetched a better return for a goalie desperate team. You are right though as long as Bryz was here he wasnt going to to see much time.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 27 @ 12:01 AM ET
Jeeze, Columbus being outshot 23 to 9 in the 3rd.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 27 @ 12:02 AM ET
I literally change my opinion on who I like the best weekly, if not every other day.
- Jsaquella

good dmen are hard to find we do well with drafting forwards might be good to take a shot at jones
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 27 @ 12:03 AM ET
I don't think we're looking at a rebuild...more like a reset. New coach and mentality/identity, a piece or two on D and this thing can work within the next few years and Hartnell is what, 30? I don't see why he can't be part of the mix..you need some vets to go with the youth.
- exlund


i hope you're right man
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 27 @ 12:03 AM ET
i know, but i just couldn't amen that one because murray's never won anything. also, while i'd be on board w/ a coaching change, homer knows the off season was a clusterphuck and bryz has been uneven.

i would have canned lavi before the break and tried to make a run...

- isaiah520


I hate calling for a guy's job. Hate it....and I like Lavi as a coach, but I think they need to have some sort of paradigm shift sooner rather than later. The young guys need to have something to build on. It is a tough call because outside of Terry Murray 2.0 I don't see a lot of options unless they tap someone from the minors like Tampa just did with Cooper. I don't want Ruff or Guy Boucher in Philly. I do know that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 12:04 AM ET
Interesting, so I'm assuming your top 3 have a very good chance of playing in the NHL next year. I don't condone tanking, but the reality is I don't think this coach or leadership group has any idea how to get team back on track. It is unfortunate, but I believe it will be a very ugly remaining games. They just were casually skating all throughout the third period, no fight whatsoever.
- ravishingone


I think that MacKinnon is the most NHL ready. Jones and Drouin could probably step in and play right away, but with more growing pains.

Nichushkin has a world of talent-and is actually rated ahead of Drouin and MacKinnon by ISS-but is felt to be more of a project. Monahan could probably make the jump, but I'd be patient on him, like Florida was with Huberdeau. Barkov and Lindholm could probably make the jump immediately, too.

Barkov's playing in a men's league and doing very well and Lindholm has a very well rounded game, so there'd be little pressure for him to produce right away.

The issue with those two is, the general feeling is that their ceilings aren't as high as the others. They look like they will be very solid NHLers, but the rest all are seen as future top liners, if not franchise type guys.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 12:05 AM ET
You are correct and never thought of it in that angle...Who knows if he would have bailed to the KHL but at least the flyers would have had him for this season and who knows could have fetched a better return for a goalie desperate team. You are right though as long as Bryz was here he wasnt going to to see much time.
- flyerfan28


It will be interesting to see if Bobrovsky can continue his lights out play or if he just got a case of the Bocuher
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 12:07 AM ET
good dmen are hard to find we do well with drafting forwards might be good to take a shot at jones
- 2Real


I wouldn't complain for a second if they had the top pick and took Jones. But he's going to have growing pains.

And if they drop to 7th or so, and take Nurse, he's probably 2 or 3 years away.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 27 @ 12:08 AM ET
Cool news on the PhD. My wife's cousin just defended hers, that's some stressful times, for sure.

Best of luck with all the changes and fun goings on coming up for you

- Jsaquella


Thanks man!

That is why I am always up late posting...procrastinating. On top of it all the wife is peeeyossed that I spend so much time working on the dissertation and away from the kids, one of which is 5 months old and teething...and seems to wake up bawling just as I turn in at 3AM. Fun times indeed Speaking of which... I better (frank)ing knock out some work...'night y'all. See you for the next round of draft watch on Thursday...unless there are some changes tomorrow.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 27 @ 12:09 AM ET
Thanks man!

That is why I am always up late posting...procrastinating. On top of it all the wife is peeeyossed that I spend so much time working on the dissertation and away from the kids, one of which is 5 months old and teething...and seems to wake up bawling just as I turn in at 3AM. Fun times indeed Speaking of which... I better (frank)ing knock out some work...'night y'all. See you for the next round of draft watch on Thursday...unless there are some changes tomorrow.

- Lexington Flyer


Take care, my man. When it's all over, you can look back on it and laugh...if it don't kill ya
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 27 @ 12:14 AM ET
I hate calling for a guy's job. Hate it....and I like Lavi as a coach, but I think they need to have some sort of paradigm shift sooner rather than later. The young guys need to have something to build on. It is a tough call because outside of Terry Murray 2.0 I don't see a lot of options unless they tap someone from the minors like Tampa just did with Cooper. I don't want Ruff or Guy Boucher in Philly. I do know that.
- Lexington Flyer

murray would have been fine as interim, but now i want new blood like you
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 27 @ 12:16 AM ET
Thanks man!

That is why I am always up late posting...procrastinating. On top of it all the wife is peeeyossed that I spend so much time working on the dissertation and away from the kids, one of which is 5 months old and teething...and seems to wake up bawling just as I turn in at 3AM. Fun times indeed Speaking of which... I better (frank)ing knock out some work...'night y'all. See you for the next round of draft watch on Thursday...unless there are some changes tomorrow.

- Lexington Flyer

good luck w/ this. i thought nutter sounded like the Pretty Horny Dude, but who knew?
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