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faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Mar 26 @ 8:49 AM ET
It's a loser point. The loser never recieved a point for losing until this SO crap started.
- imsorry66



Once again....... its not a loss. Its a shootout loss, which shouldn't exist to begin with.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 26 @ 8:50 AM ET
Wrong IMHO a shoot out shouldn't be 2 points for the winner, it's really a weiner point for the winner - but it keeps the league tight and revenues up!!!
- Garnie



If they gonna have shootouts as part of the game than fine award 2pts to the winner and the loser gets 0...


It's that or drop it and go back to having ties ...
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 26 @ 8:51 AM ET
Once again....... its not a loss. Its a shootout loss, which shouldn't exist to begin with.
- faceto27



As long as the shootout exist/counts someone ends up losing..2pts for winner 0 for loser..
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 26 @ 8:52 AM ET
Here's the broke ass math.

How many points does a team get for a Win? 2
How many points does a team get for a Loss? 0
How many points does a team get for an OT Win? 2
How many points does a team get for an OT loss? 1

So a win is a win no matter what but sometimes you can "lose better" or something?!?


- BlowMonkey


do you guys even remember why the loser point was established?

teams would go into OT and just stay in a defensive shell.. because neither team wanted to risk losing the tie point

it was some of the most boring ass hockey that has ever been played.
faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Mar 26 @ 8:52 AM ET
If they gonna have shootouts as part of the game than fine award 2pts to the winner and the loser gets 0...


It's that or drop it and go back to having ties ...

- Fruitcakenipple



Exactly. My preference is go back to having a tie. The game was played for 60 minutes. Tied score. No need to force a win, by having a shootout.

Fatty-Patty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 26 @ 8:52 AM ET
Meh, I make decent money. I would just hope one day i was able to win something .
Karma Baby

- IrishRage



If there was a watery - eyed emoticon on here I'd give it to you.

You're my hero...
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

Mar 26 @ 8:53 AM ET
do you guys even remember why the loser point was established?

teams would go into OT and just stay in a defensive shell.. because neither team wanted to risk losing the tie point

it was some of the most boring ass hockey that has ever been played.

- Dozzer


....all they did is moved that to the last 10 minutes of the 3rd period in tie hockey games now....no difference.
Fatty-Patty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Mar 26 @ 8:54 AM ET
do you guys even remember why the loser point was established?

teams would go into OT and just stay in a defensive shell.. because neither team wanted to risk losing the tie point

it was some of the most boring ass hockey that has ever been played.

- Dozzer


Worse than this hockey??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PEl9PJCC48
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 26 @ 8:54 AM ET
#LockupJakeGardiner
- imsorry66

faceto27
Location: Burke: Best part of today is I
Joined: 01.21.2010

Mar 26 @ 8:54 AM ET
do you guys even remember why the loser point was established?

teams would go into OT and just stay in a defensive shell.. because neither team wanted to risk losing the tie point

it was some of the most boring ass hockey that has ever been played.

- Dozzer



You're right, it was.

They should either eliminate the OT period and have ties. Orrrrrrrrrrrr, they go 4 on 4, then 3 on 3, until somebody scores.

3pts awarded in a game creates tight standings. I know this is what the league wants, but from a pure hockey traditionalist point of view, it is flat out wrong.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 26 @ 8:57 AM ET
If they gonna have shootouts as part of the game than fine award 2pts to the winner and the loser gets 0...


It's that or drop it and go back to having ties ...

- Fruitcakenipple

They will never do that because they know its totally frankn stupid to award a team 2 points more than a team they beat in a stupid shoot out. The fans love the shoot out so for now it's not going anywhere - rules same for every team so we have to suck it up!!!

I already mentioned the shoot out victories should be a separate column for year end tie breaking etc!!!! That's not going to happen either!!!!
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 26 @ 8:57 AM ET
Exactly. My preference is go back to having a tie. The game was played for 60 minutes. Tied score. No need to force a win, by having a shootout.


- faceto27



I fine with that as well..



It's stupid to have a game with a winner and no loser...
vermie22
Joined: 07.13.2011

Mar 26 @ 8:58 AM ET
So I watched a stream of the NESN coverage of the game last night, and wow was that absolutely brutal. They literally made fun of Reimer and his over sized equipment. Constantly said that Kadri was diving, and made fun of Kessel for not engaging Chara physically. Every Bruin player on the ice was apparently a hockey god compared to any of the Leafs the entire game. I know that the Leafs commentators get bashed all the time, but never do anything close to that.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 26 @ 8:59 AM ET
Worse than this hockey??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PEl9PJCC48

- Fatty-Patty

What was wrong with last nights game?

It was back and fort, well for some part - it wasn't certainly boring like 99% of sens games....oh wait maybe its just Denis Potvin and his annoying monotone homerisms that make it boring?????
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 26 @ 9:01 AM ET
They will never do that because they know its totally frankn stupid to award a team 2 points more than a team they beat in a stupid shoot out. The fans love the shoot out so for now it's not going anywhere - rules same for every team so we have to suck it up!!!

I already mentioned the shoot out victories should be a separate column for year end tie breaking etc!!!! That's not going to happen either!!!!

- Garnie


They already sort of are....the first tie breaker is regulation+overtime wins. Unless you mean, offering no points for the shootout win, but still using them as a tie breaker at the end.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 26 @ 9:07 AM ET
Once again....... its not a loss. Its a shootout loss, which shouldn't exist to begin with.
- faceto27

Its still a lost and it does exist so get over it.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 26 @ 9:07 AM ET
....all they did is moved that to the last 10 minutes of the 3rd period in tie hockey games now....no difference.
- BlowMonkey


i dont agree but whatever.

i remember it clearly

teams would just skate to the redline and dump it in.. most overtimes went without a single shot being taken
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 26 @ 9:09 AM ET
These 3pts we got from Boston will mean absolutely nothing if the leafs lose against the panthers and canes.
They need at least another 3pts over the next two games.....a lost to the panthers is simply not acceptable.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
i dont agree but whatever.

i remember it clearly

teams would just skate to the redline and dump it in.. most overtimes went without a single shot being taken

- Dozzer

Whoa!
It wasn't that bad, that's exagerating.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Mar 26 @ 9:10 AM ET
They already sort of are....the first tie breaker is regulation+overtime wins. Unless you mean, offering no points for the shootout win, but still using them as a tie breaker at the end.
- p_zub

Yes no points - other team buys the beer
,,,,
Tee-Dot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: For being Stee's alternate personality or being associated with M. Night Shyamalan?
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 26 @ 9:11 AM ET
i dont agree but whatever.

i remember it clearly

teams would just skate to the redline and dump it in.. most overtimes went without a single shot being taken

- Dozzer

McCartney or Lennon?
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

Mar 26 @ 9:11 AM ET
These 3pts we got from Boston will mean absolutely nothing if the leafs lose against the panthers and canes.
They need at least another 3pts over the next two games.....a lost to the panthers is simply not acceptable.

- Fakepartofme


I agree, I also assume that Frattin will draw into the lineup in the place of either Mclaren or Orr to provide some jump. When we lost the second of a back to back there had been no line up changes, when we win there are lineup changes. Hopefully Carlyle sees that the need for 2 enforcers is not needed tonight - I do however think it was needed against Boston!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 26 @ 9:12 AM ET
It's a loser point cause the losing team got rewarded with a point...Just another reason why the NHL is a joke...
- Flyfreaky

Bingo.
Have a 5 min of 4 on 4 and than 5 mins of 3 x 3.
Someone is bound to score...if not both teams lose a point.
p_zub
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.20.2007

Mar 26 @ 9:12 AM ET
Anyone else think Blacker gets his NHL debut tonight against Florida? Problem is, Kostka had a pretty decent game last night.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Mar 26 @ 9:13 AM ET
I agree, I also assume that Frattin will draw into the lineup in the place of either Mclaren or Orr to provide some jump. When we lost the second of a back to back there had been no line up changes, when we win there are lineup changes. Hopefully Carlyle sees that the need for 2 enforcers is not needed tonight - I do however think it was needed against Boston!
- steve362

Yes get Frattin back in and sit Orr.
In fact going down the stretch, I'd be happy to see less of Orr.
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