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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 25 @ 11:47 PM ET
I wouldn't do it for Shattenkirk. He's a very good defenseman, but he's not elite or a franchise defenseman. OEL has the potential to be, and is fast becoming one. Still not sold I'd move Giroux for him.
- Jsaquella

giroux and laughton for OEL and handzal
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 11:49 PM ET
giroux and laughton for OEL and handzal
- isaiah520


That's interesting.

Despite Holmgren's ability to draft good forwards, let's face it, Giroux's the lone guy that has shown the potential to be elite level.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 25 @ 11:52 PM ET
That's interesting.

Despite Holmgren's ability to draft good forwards, let's face it, Giroux's the lone guy that has shown the potential to be elite level.

- Jsaquella


I like Holmgren's chances of drafting another Giroux 100x better than him drafting OEL or even Shattenkirk.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 11:54 PM ET
I like Holmgren's chances of drafting another Giroux 100x better than him drafting OEL or even Shattenkirk.
- phillydentist


Still wouldn't trade Giroux for Shattenkirk.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 11:54 PM ET
That's interesting.

Despite Holmgren's ability to draft good forwards, let's face it, Giroux's the lone guy that has shown the potential to be elite level.

- Jsaquella


We haven't had any elite level chances besides JvR and we missed on Patty Kane who is probably the only elite level forward in that first round.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 11:56 PM ET
Still wouldn't trade Giroux for Shattenkirk.
- Jsaquella

shattenkirk stinks this year
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 12:00 AM ET
We haven't had any elite level chances besides JvR and we missed on Patty Kane who is probably the only elite level forward in that first round.
- GirouxForTheShow


Probably, but at the same time, you can't expect to land them often. Trading Giroux, you have to hit a home run. You can't get a double.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
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Mar 26 @ 12:14 AM ET
Probably, but at the same time, you can't expect to land them often. Trading Giroux, you have to hit a home run. You can't get a double.
- Jsaquella

pietrangelo would be a home run
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 12:15 AM ET
pietrangelo would be a home run
- isaiah520


Yes, and even that one is just clearing the fence
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 12:18 AM ET
Yes, and even that one is just clearing the fence
- Jsaquella

if giroux leaves who do we have to score? cooter?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 12:19 AM ET
if giroux leaves who do we have to score? cooter?
- 2Real


That was kinda my point all along.
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.20.2013

Mar 26 @ 12:21 AM ET
if giroux leaves who do we have to score? cooter?
- 2Real


Is Giroux scoring for us now?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 26 @ 12:39 AM ET
Is Giroux scoring for us now?
- phillydentist


31 games, 28 points. i'd say yes
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 26 @ 12:54 AM ET
Is Giroux scoring for us now?
- phillydentist

really you're going to complain about giroux when there are bigger issues?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 1:00 AM ET
really you're going to complain about giroux when there are bigger issues?
- 2Real


Yeah like why Giroux isn't well over PPG? That's a major issue IMNHO
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 1:10 AM ET
Yeah like why Giroux isn't well over PPG? That's a major issue IMNHO
- GirouxForTheShow


Giroux hasn't been as good as expected, but he's also near a PPG, which is hardly a slouch.

GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 1:11 AM ET
Giroux hasn't been as good as expected, but he's also near a PPG, which is hardly a slouch.
- Jsaquella


I was being sarcastic, although he hasn't quite lived up to expectations, he is far from the problem.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 1:12 AM ET
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 1:14 AM ET
I was being sarcastic, although he hasn't quite lived up to expectations, he is far from the problem.
- GirouxForTheShow


Sorry, I'm kind of zoning out here.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 1:16 AM ET

- Jsaquella

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 1:17 AM ET

- 2Real


I love how the dude looks up at the ceiling after the earpiece makes splashdown
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 26 @ 1:19 AM ET
I love how the dude looks up at the ceiling after the earpiece makes splashdown
- Jsaquella

i love how the coach acts like nothing happened
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 26 @ 1:19 AM ET
I love how the dude looks up at the ceiling after the earpiece makes splashdown
- Jsaquella




I know it's sort of crazy but if the NHL gets wind of that do they fine him? Kind of a Richard move regardless if it lands in beer or not. Too funny though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 1:23 AM ET
i love how the coach acts like nothing happened
- 2Real


Yeah, very ho hum reaction by the coach. I haven't seen the whole clip to see if he turned around and realized he bombed the guy's beer or what
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 26 @ 1:24 AM ET


I know it's sort of crazy but if the NHL gets wind of that do they fine him? Kind of a Richard move regardless if it lands in beer or not. Too funny though.

- GirouxForTheShow


Reminded me of JR. During warmups he flipped a puck into the stands, it knocked over a guy's beer. JR had the trainer get him some cash and he took it over to the guy to pay for the spilled suds
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