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aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:38 PM ET
Yandle would bring some elements to the team that they don't have right now. One poster said that believes that Yandle could put up 50 points on this team. I don't think that's a stretch. He's never played on a team with this much offensive talent. He would add a dynamic offensive presence in 5 on 5 play, and on the PP. But he would also have to be used right. Put out in offensive starts. Kept away from top lines as much as possible, for him to be the most effective. Unless you simply wanted to go offense against offense. I personally would prefer to trade top assets and use Cap resources for a player that is a better two way defenseman. The problem is the difficulty in obtaining that player. I will say that I would not be willing to trade Couturier for Yandle.
- MJL



I wouldn't trade Couturier for him either. Id imagine a Dman would be involved going back to PHO given the amount of money our top 4 guys are making. Coburn/Schenn/Grossmann + Read? Personally I like Schenn, so he's a no, again just a preference here. Grossmann is one of the guys playing to the value of his contract, and does so many things that go under the radar, I wouldn't move him. Coburn has been asked to do more over the past few seasons, and when expectations shift for various reasons and the player doesn't live up to them there's criticism, fair or unfair. Read I put out there because at some point he's going to get paid and we can't pay every forward multi millions with the 3 centers coming up for new deals....Homer (or whoever it is) will definately be earning his money this summer!
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:40 PM ET
I don't see mcginn on the phantoms roster. ne1 know what happened?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:40 PM ET
I honestly thought he was a politically correct choice for the population of Toronto. Kid has game.
- flyer_nutter

Good hands, good vision, has a quick release, plays with a ton of moxie. He's on fire as of late too. 3 goals 7 assists in Toronto's last 5 games.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:41 PM ET
Good hands, good vision, has a quick release, plays with a ton of moxie. He's on fire as of late too. 3 goals 7 assists in Toronto's last 5 games.
- GirouxForTheShow


Toronto did a fantastic job being patient with Kadri. Now it is paying dividends.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Couturier for him either. Id imagine a Dman would be involved going back to PHO given the amount of money our top 4 guys are making. Coburn/Schenn/Grossmann + Read? Personally I like Schenn, so he's a no, again just a preference here. Grossmann is one of the guys playing to the value of his contract, and does so many things that go under the radar, I wouldn't move him. Coburn has been asked to do more over the past few seasons, and when expectations shift for various reasons and the player doesn't live up to them there's criticism, fair or unfair. Read I put out there because at some point he's going to get paid and we can't pay every forward multi millions with the 3 centers coming up for new deals....Homer (or whoever it is) will definately be earning his money this summer!
- aosplayo


My concern is that adding Yandle, and subtracting Coburn. Is going to put even more on Timonen's shoulders next Season. Even though he has struggled, Coburn plays tough minutes such as on the PK. I think they might need a slight upgrade on the #6 spot then. With a physical experienced player who can play some on the PK.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
I don't see mcginn on the phantoms roster. ne1 know what happened?
- aightwebang17


He was recalled today
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:43 PM ET
The Flyers are going to need that cash for some real improvements. They're looking at 3M in Cap space right now. I wouldn't be real excited to use up half of that for a player in serious decline.
- MJL


I don't disagree. But if we are unable to find better ways to spend available cap dollars, I wouldn't have a problem with Murray at a discount from what he's making this year.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
Toronto did a fantastic job being patient with Kadri. Now it is paying dividends.
- MJL


Amazing thing patience is
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:44 PM ET
I don't see mcginn on the phantoms roster. ne1 know what happened?
- aightwebang17


hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
mood?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:47 PM ET
mood?
- hammarby31


Bob Ryab hates his father and won't work with him.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
mood?
- hammarby31

briere gotta get traded
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 10:52 PM ET
If the Coyotes are trading Yandle, the top reason is to get some offensive help. The second reason is to open a spot for Gormley or Rundblad. Why would they take Coburn or Meszaros back?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:53 PM ET
If the Coyotes are trading Yandle, the top reason is to get some offensive help. The second reason is to open a spot for Gormley or Rundblad. Why would they take Coburn or Meszaros back?
- Jsaquella

to play offense
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:53 PM ET
I don't see mcginn on the phantoms roster. ne1 know what happened?
- aightwebang17


I too make checking the phantoms roster a daily occurance.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 10:54 PM ET
to play offense
- 2Real


I think you'd need Read and a pick to land Yandle, personally. They don't want to add salary or defensemen.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:57 PM ET
If the Coyotes are trading Yandle, the top reason is to get some offensive help. The second reason is to open a spot for Gormley or Rundblad. Why would they take Coburn or Meszaros back?
- Jsaquella


Send Briere home. Yandle for Briere and coburn.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
If the Coyotes are trading Yandle, the top reason is to get some offensive help. The second reason is to open a spot for Gormley or Rundblad. Why would they take Coburn or Meszaros back?
- Jsaquella



I can see a Yandle trade for a forward, and then a separate trade involving Mez or Coburn. I just can't see them eating up so much cap space on the d core. I would rather Homer try and pry Gormley and Rundblad personally. The cost to obtain won't be as dicey especially if it is Rundblad.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
I think you'd need Read and a pick to land Yandle, personally. They don't want to add salary or defensemen.
- Jsaquella


They still need to hit the floor. Briere is the tonic
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
I can see a Yandle trade for a forward, and then a separate trade involving Mez or Coburn. I just can't see them eating up so much cap space on the d core. I would rather Homer try and pry Gormley and Rundblad personally. The cost to obtain won't be as dicey especially if it is Rundblad.
- ravishingone


That's a possibility, sure.

Of course those that dismiss trading Couturier in a trade for Bobby Ryan seem to feel you're no allowed to make more than one trade a summer.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
They still need to hit the floor. Briere is the tonic
- Just5


If he'd agree to go, fine...doubt they'd be OK accepting him.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
Send Briere home. Yandle for Briere and coburn.
- Just5


No shot he'd waive to go there. PHX won't take Coburns salary. I could see Read and maybe Cousins or a 2nd rounder for Yandle, and then Briere to Montreal for picks.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 25 @ 11:00 PM ET
That's a possibility, sure.

Of course those that dismiss trading Couturier in a trade for Bobby Ryan seem to feel you're no allowed to make more than one trade a summer.

- Jsaquella


See Richards, Mike; Carter, Jeff.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 25 @ 11:02 PM ET
See Richards, Mike; Carter, Jeff.
- GirouxForTheShow


Nope. Never happened.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Mar 25 @ 11:03 PM ET
That's a possibility, sure.

Of course those that dismiss trading Couturier in a trade for Bobby Ryan seem to feel you're no allowed to make more than one trade a summer.

- Jsaquella


Considering how much Homer was willing to tinker with the line-up last summer and came up empty, I expect similiar aggressive tactics this year. Guys like Voracek and Simmonds who signed multi-year deals at reasonable cap hits are certainly in play for trade. Players like Noebels, Laughton, McGinn, and Cousins (depending on court proceedings) could potentially fill top 9 roles next year at a minimal cost on the cap. I definitely think Talbot is in play at the deadline, he is a perfect role player for a Stanley Cup contending team. I think his value will never be higher then right now because of his age and terms of contract.
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