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SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:24 PM ET
Very comfortable...no risk of him being let go.

Personally, I don't think Snow will buy or sell. I think he already has an idea of what he wants next year's team to look like. He's grooming this year's second line to be next year's third, so I don't think he'll move Okposo or Bailey. He'll probably re-sign Streit...try to re-sign Vis or maybe move him for a pick, and probably re-sign Boyes, and that'll be that.

Next year's first line stays the same, the third line will be this year's second and the fourth will be this year's third. The new second line might look something like Grabner-Strome-Niederreiter. The D will be largely the same cast of characters with some prospects like Donovan and Reinhart pushing the current d-men for spots. Maybe Nabby comes back for another year.

Just my thoughts on how it'll go. Don't really agree, and would like to see more of a shakeup and a bigger effort to bring in legit players from the outside, but I don't think it'll happen, based on how Snow's handled things up to now. He has his long-term plan, has the support of ownership, and there's little pressure on him to alter course or speed things up.

- UIF


Couldnt agree more. With no pressure to do anything but wait and see until next year. Snow relishes that approach. So easy. No muss, no fuss, no stress, no contact with anyone outside the organization.

Snow is an island amongst GM's.


Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
Couldnt agree more. With no pressure to do anything but wait and see until next year. Snow relishes that approach. So easy. No muss, no fuss, no stress, no contact with anyone outside the organization.

Snow is an island amongst GM's.

- SCLI

Seems to be the path taken consistently.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:25 PM ET
I hope not.
- Cptmjl


I hope not too, but management likes him. I think he'll be signed at a far lower amount than the $5mil mentioned...maybe more like $3.5mil....
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:35 PM ET
I'm not a huge fan of Streit myself but what I think does'nt affect his value thankfully. Come playoff time teams are always looking for Offensive minded D. I'm not talking MAB but Streit will have some value( ) , I believe more than a 2nd rounder.
- Cptmjl


I'm not saying it's impossible if the market goes crazy, but I think there will be a few dmen available and simply don't see anyone ponying up a 1st rounder. In fact, I can't recall the last time we saw a 1st rounder go for a dman. In most cases, we see multiple picks like a 2nd and 3rd rounder for dmen.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:36 PM ET
I hope not too, but management likes him. I think he'll be signed at a far lower amount than the $5mil mentioned...maybe more like $3.5mil....
- keaner17

Like i said I can see it happening but it would be another misstep. IMO it would be a big one, it's time for Tavares to be captain of this team and Snow should be able to do better than Streit for this teams top pairing. Maybe not considering Snow thinks Carkner seems to be top pairing material?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:36 PM ET
I'm not saying it's impossible if the market goes crazy, but I think there will be a few dmen available and simply don't see anyone ponying up a 1st rounder. In fact, I can't recall the last time we saw a 1st rounder go for a dman. In most cases, we see multiple picks like a 2nd and 3rd rounder for dmen.
- keaner17

Campoli
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 12:40 PM ET
Campoli
- Cptmjl


McAmmond and Comrie were also involved, were they not? Or was that not the same trade?
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 25 @ 12:42 PM ET
i disagree, if for no other reason (and without putting pen to paper) i believe the team you have constructed would be WAAAAY below the cap floor.
- LetsGoIsles


If the Isles have shown me one thing over the last few years, it's that they're experts in finding ways to "comply" with the cap floor! The last two or so offseasons I think a lot of us (me included) have believed the Isles were going to land a big fish either on forward or D because they needed to add a lot of salary to get to the floor. Hasn't happened, and I don't think it will this offseason based on recent history. Not trying to be a downer at all. I'd love to see talent brought in, but I also believe that some reshuffling up front...putting shutdown forwards like Nielsen in their proper roles on a shutdown line and putting scorers like Grabner in their proper roles on scoring lines...with other potential scorers...could pay some dividends. Nothing remarkable, but maybe we hover around 8th and 9th instead of around 10th and 11th.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Mar 25 @ 12:42 PM ET
McAmmond and Comrie were also involved, were they not? Or was that not the same trade?
- Mr_Clean

Oh I remember him
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:43 PM ET
I'm not saying it's impossible if the market goes crazy, but I think there will be a few dmen available and simply don't see anyone ponying up a 1st rounder. In fact, I can't recall the last time we saw a 1st rounder go for a dman. In most cases, we see multiple picks like a 2nd and 3rd rounder for dmen.
- keaner17

I really don't think the market needs to go crazy for it to happen? An offensive minded Dman is hard to come by. Your answer to this might be than why are you opposed to resiging him? My answer; Captaincy, age, it's just time to move on. A team looking to make a run or even a bubble team looking to make a statement IMO would have no problem ponying up a high first rounder.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:44 PM ET
McAmmond and Comrie were also involved, were they not? Or was that not the same trade?
- Mr_Clean

It was, I believe Campoli was the meat of that trade believe it or not
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 12:47 PM ET
It was, I believe Campoli was the meat of that trade believe it or not
- Cptmjl


Yes, sadly it's true

Just recollecting that it wasn't exactly Campoli for a 1st, since Comrie probably had slightly value than Deaner at that point.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:48 PM ET
Couldnt agree more. With no pressure to do anything but wait and see until next year. Snow relishes that approach. So easy. No muss, no fuss, no stress, no contact with anyone outside the organization.

Snow is an island amongst GM's.

- SCLI



Totally because he has an owner that is saying. No, No, you are doing great the way it is.. Lets see how much better these kids get while I have them under contract.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:50 PM ET
Yes, sadly it's true

Just recollecting that it wasn't exactly Campoli for a 1st, since Comrie probably had slightly value than Deaner at that point.

- Mr_Clean

I forgot about Maccammond. Comrie and Campoli were "demanding" trades from what I remember. Always thought that was funny, Campoli demanding a trade? hysterical
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
Totally because he has an owner that is saying. No, No, you are doing great the way it is.. Lets see how much better these kids get while I have them under contract.
- bixll

Developing them the way they have been does'nt seem to be paying huge dividends.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:51 PM ET
I'm not a huge fan of Streit myself but what I think does'nt affect his value thankfully. Come playoff time teams are always looking for Offensive minded D. I'm not talking MAB but Streit will have some value, I believe more than a 2nd rounder.
- Cptmjl


According to the NHL TV Network. Streit is one of the top 10 prime candidates to be moved before the Trade Deadline.

Also mentioned was Nabby and Viz but Streit supposedly has several suitors.

As you said its not imperative that the Isles make the PO's this yr. But it is for some other organizations like Philly, Ottawa, Rangers, Washington, Tampa and maybe even Toronto.

Rangers need "O" so Striet or Viz could help. Philly wants "D" so ditto for those two..
I'm not sure what Washington is looking for except consistency for OV.

Tampa is hell bent on making the PO's this season (thats why they fired their coach) and is desperately looking for Goalie help. They took a chance on Rollie. Maybe they offer something better for Nabby who is a few yrs younger?

Ottawa needs "D".
From what I've read. Gonchare is gone after the season. So selling them another rental my not be appealing. Then again if they want to prove a point and make the PO's with an ailing team. Streit or Viz could help them do that. Ottawa has been nothing short of amazing this yr considering all thats happened to them. Even if they only get to the 1st rd its a great accomplishment that has to carry over to next season with positive effects.

Viz???? Who the hell knows. His actions say one thing. His statements say another. Even as a rental. I think he gets us the best return. He's a terrific offensive "D" man. His Defense? OK imo.

The problem with dealing any of our roster players is we need to get better than equal value since no one is ready to fill in for them. But neither Viz, Streit or Nabby are part of this teams future. So they are expendable.

Its a problem for Snow. Big Decisions must be make soon. I for one am not sure he can handle it.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:54 PM ET
Totally because he has an owner that is saying. No, No, you are doing great the way it is.. Lets see how much better these kids get while I have them under contract.
- bixll


No passes for Wang. Hes just as much or more at fault then Snow. Flip a coin.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
No passes for Wang. Hes just as much or more at fault then Snow. Flip a coin.
- SCLI

"Nabokov: While many think the Lightning are out of it they have popped up today as having some interest in Nabokov..."


Hot off the presses from EK

bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
Developing them the way they have been does'nt seem to be paying huge dividends.
- Cptmjl



Its a process, that Wang is good with apprently. You are under budget Grath, Great Job.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:56 PM ET
Oh I remember him
- mighty13duck


He's on Social Security now isnt he?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:57 PM ET
No passes for Wang. Hes just as much or more at fault then Snow. Flip a coin.
- SCLI



Wang must be a Tight Ass. All I have to say about it.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:58 PM ET
According to the NHL TV Network. Streit is one of the top 10 prime candidates to be moved before the Trade Deadline.

Also mentioned was Nabby and Viz but Streit supposedly has several suitors.

As you said its not imperative that the Isles make the PO's this yr. But it is for some other organizations like Philly, Ottawa, Rangers, Washington, Tampa and maybe even Toronto.

Rangers need "O" so Striet or Viz could help. Philly wants "D" so ditto for those two..
I'm not sure what Washington is looking for except consistency for OV.

Tampa is hell bent on making the PO's this season (thats why they fired their coach) and is desperately looking for Goalie help. They took a chance on Rollie. Maybe they offer something better for Nabby who is a few yrs younger?

Ottawa needs "D".
From what I've read. Gonchare is gone after the season. So selling them another rental my not be appealing. Then again if they want to prove a point and make the PO's with an ailing team. Streit or Viz could help them do that. Ottawa has been nothing short of amazing this yr considering all thats happened to them. Even if they only get to the 1st rd its a great accomplishment that has to carry over to next season with positive effects.

Viz???? Who the hell knows. His actions say one thing. His statements say another. Even as a rental. I think he gets us the best return. He's a terrific offensive "D" man. His Defense? OK imo.

The problem with dealing any of our roster players is we need to get better than equal value since no one is ready to fill in for them. But neither Viz, Streit or Nabby are part of this teams future. So they are expendable.

Its a problem for Snow. Big Decisions must be make soon. I for one am not sure he can handle it.

- SCLI



How can Wang unload this type of money, without anything back in return to go towards the Cap Floor..
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
According to the NHL TV Network. Streit is one of the top 10 prime candidates to be moved before the Trade Deadline.

Also mentioned was Nabby and Viz but Streit supposedly has several suitors.

As you said its not imperative that the Isles make the PO's this yr. But it is for some other organizations like Philly, Ottawa, Rangers, Washington, Tampa and maybe even Toronto.

Rangers need "O" so Striet or Viz could help. Philly wants "D" so ditto for those two..
I'm not sure what Washington is looking for except consistency for OV.

Tampa is hell bent on making the PO's this season (thats why they fired their coach) and is desperately looking for Goalie help. They took a chance on Rollie. Maybe they offer something better for Nabby who is a few yrs younger?

Ottawa needs "D".
From what I've read. Gonchare is gone after the season. So selling them another rental my not be appealing. Then again if they want to prove a point and make the PO's with an ailing team. Streit or Viz could help them do that. Ottawa has been nothing short of amazing this yr considering all thats happened to them. Even if they only get to the 1st rd its a great accomplishment that has to carry over to next season with positive effects.

Viz???? Who the hell knows. His actions say one thing. His statements say another. Even as a rental. I think he gets us the best return. He's a terrific offensive "D" man. His Defense? OK imo.

The problem with dealing any of our roster players is we need to get better than equal value since no one is ready to fill in for them. But neither Viz, Streit or Nabby are part of this teams future. So they are expendable.

Its a problem for Snow. Big Decisions must be make soon. I for one am not sure he can handle it.

- SCLI

Agree with you on all counts. Viz is a good player no matter how much I dislike him for his contractual BS. The guy can play, I think he is a better player overall than Streit and we could see a good return on him. Snow actually has some players of value to trade this deadline and all of these players can fill a need on other teams rosters as you pointed out. I just hope Snow does the right thing
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
Wang must be a Tight Ass. All I have to say about it.
- bixll

Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:59 PM ET
I hope not too, but management likes him. I think he'll be signed at a far lower amount than the $5mil mentioned...maybe more like $3.5mil....
- keaner17


Isles have 2 of the best available offensive D-men in the game
Boyle has yrs remaining, Whitney is always injured, besides Streit & Viz who else is better and possibly available?

Idk who, just thinking of names quickly.
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