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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
I personally agree with you - it should be a seller's market this year. I just don't have any sense of what Snow's sense of job security might be at this point... Do you think he's comfortable giving away a decent shot at making the playoffs, or is making the playoffs something that might make the difference between keeping & losing his job?
- Mr_Clean


Very comfortable...no risk of him being let go.

Personally, I don't think Snow will buy or sell. I think he already has an idea of what he wants next year's team to look like. He's grooming this year's second line to be next year's third, so I don't think he'll move Okposo or Bailey. He'll probably re-sign Streit...try to re-sign Vis or maybe move him for a pick, and probably re-sign Boyes, and that'll be that.

Next year's first line stays the same, the third line will be this year's second and the fourth will be this year's third. The new second line might look something like Grabner-Strome-Niederreiter. The D will be largely the same cast of characters with some prospects like Donovan and Reinhart pushing the current d-men for spots. Maybe Nabby comes back for another year.

Just my thoughts on how it'll go. Don't really agree, and would like to see more of a shakeup and a bigger effort to bring in legit players from the outside, but I don't think it'll happen, based on how Snow's handled things up to now. He has his long-term plan, has the support of ownership, and there's little pressure on him to alter course or speed things up.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:51 AM ET
Isles have to move him then if that is the case. Streit is not the future and I would move Vish, Nabby, and Boyes and get anything for Reasoner. I cannot see the Isles making all these trades though. They will also be worried about hitting the minimum Cap next year.
- ses111

Make those trades call up some kids and have an idea what we have and what he needs to do in the offseason.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:53 AM ET
I personally agree with you - it should be a seller's market this year. I just don't have any sense of what Snow's sense of job security might be at this point... Do you think he's comfortable giving away a decent shot at making the playoffs, or is making the playoffs something that might make the difference between keeping & losing his job?
- Mr_Clean

He has nothing to worry about. He's going no where. Look how long Wang kept Milbury at the helm, he should've been gone years before he actually left and when he did leave he was'nt even fired
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
Very comfortable...no risk of him being let go.

Personally, I don't think Snow will buy or sell. I think he already has an idea of what he wants next year's team to look like. He's grooming this year's second line to be next year's third, so I don't think he'll move Okposo or Bailey. He'll probably re-sign Streit...try to re-sign Vis or maybe move him for a pick, and probably re-sign Boyes, and that'll be that.

Next year's first line stays the same, the third line will be this year's second and the fourth will be this year's third. The new second line might look something like Grabner-Strome-Niederreiter. The D will be largely the same cast of characters with some prospects like Donovan and Reinhart pushing the current d-men for spots. Maybe Nabby comes back for another year.

Just my thoughts on how it'll go. Don't really agree, and would like to see more of a shakeup and a bigger effort to bring in legit players from the outside, but I don't think it'll happen, based on how Snow's handled things up to now. He has his long-term plan, has the support of ownership, and there's little pressure on him to alter course or speed things up.

- UIF


Sadly I think you are right UIF. Isles should be very active at the deadline and this offseason I just do not see it. The biggest move may be Weight taking over.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 11:54 AM ET
Job security is not an issue. Making the playoffs cannot be a huge issues if Capuano is still the coach.
- ses111

UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 25 @ 11:57 AM ET
Sadly I think you are right UIF. Isles should be very active at the deadline and this offseason I just do not see it. The biggest move may be Weight taking over.
- ses111


I would guess though that if Streit is really pushing for over $5m/year or whatever was thrown out there the other week, he might be traded at the deadline, because I don't think they'd shell out that kind of money for him.
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Mar 25 @ 11:58 AM ET
He has nothing to worry about. He's going no where. Look how long Wang kept Milbury at the helm, he should've been gone years before he actually left and when he did leave he was'nt even fired
- Cptmjl


Ayayayyy... Well I guess this is both a good and bad thing. A good thing in that he can feel comfortable being a seller if he so chooses, a bad thing in, well... The fact that the organization doesn't hold management accountable for poop.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 25 @ 11:59 AM ET
Streit alone could possibly get a 1st rd pick from a playoff team
- Ur Not Me

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:00 PM ET
Very comfortable...no risk of him being let go.

Personally, I don't think Snow will buy or sell. I think he already has an idea of what he wants next year's team to look like. He's grooming this year's second line to be next year's third, so I don't think he'll move Okposo or Bailey. He'll probably re-sign Streit...try to re-sign Vis or maybe move him for a pick, and probably re-sign Boyes, and that'll be that.

Next year's first line stays the same, the third line will be this year's second and the fourth will be this year's third. The new second line might look something like Grabner-Strome-Niederreiter. The D will be largely the same cast of characters with some prospects like Donovan and Reinhart pushing the current d-men for spots. Maybe Nabby comes back for another year.

Just my thoughts on how it'll go. Don't really agree, and would like to see more of a shakeup and a bigger effort to bring in legit players from the outside, but I don't think it'll happen, based on how Snow's handled things up to now. He has his long-term plan, has the support of ownership, and there's little pressure on him to alter course or speed things up.

- UIF

If he resigns Boyes and Streit and leaves that first line the way it is then he is completely inept at his job. Also leaving the D the way it is and expecting some sort of improvement is borderline retarded. With that said I can totally see him doing what you stated.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:01 PM ET
Ayayayyy... Well I guess this is both a good and bad thing. A good thing in that he can feel comfortable being a seller if he so chooses, a bad thing in, well... The fact that the organization doesn't hold management accountable for poop.
- Mr_Clean

It's a bad thing period. Look no further than our coach to see that there needs to be accountability with this team, it's a joke.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:04 PM ET
I would guess though that if Streit is really pushing for over $5m/year or whatever was thrown out there the other week, he might be traded at the deadline, because I don't think they'd shell out that kind of money for him.
- UIF

I would hope not, signing Streit to a multiyear contract would send a message to the rest of this team and it would'nt be a good one. Tavares should be captain of this team, guy leads by example. Enough with the losing formula that this team conjures up every season, Snow needs to mix it up and try something different. It's one thing to be patient, it's a whole other thing to be stubborn and stupid. At this point he comes off as almost lazy to me.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:05 PM ET

- keaner17

You don't think so? I think he definitely could get a high first. I think you are undervaluing which I'm shocked by
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:06 PM ET
You don't think so? I think he definitely could get a high first. I think you are undervaluing which I'm shocked by
- Cptmjl


I was shocked Campoli got a #1. I know he was younger but still.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:09 PM ET
I would hope not, signing Streit to a multiyear contract would send a message to the rest of this team and it would'nt be a good one. Tavares should be captain of this team, guy leads by example. Enough with the losing formula that this team conjures up every season, Snow needs to mix it up and try something different. It's one thing to be patient, it's a whole other thing to be stubborn and stupid. At this point he comes off as almost lazy to me.
- Cptmjl


I hope JT puts more pressure at least behind the scenes on management to get things turned around.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:10 PM ET
I was shocked Campoli got a #1. I know he was younger but still.
- ses111

That was a good trade on Snow's part. What he did with that pick you can debate but the trade itself was a good one. Comrie was part of it too but he was more filler. Streit should be able to get a high first from a team in need maybe even plus a mid prospect. Anything less than a high first OR a decent prospect is'nt that good a trade IMO. Of course teams needs will dictate what the going rate is. If you ask me there will be a few teams looking for some offensive minded D come the deadline. We shall see.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:13 PM ET
I hope JT puts more pressure at least behind the scenes on management to get things turned around.
- ses111

You would hope? The kid obviously wants to win, it seems to be his focus. Who knows what kind of communication these guys have with management? I'll specualte that it's not that great with what little i know? Snow does'nt strike me as much of a communicater and he seems to think he knows better than everyone else? Maybe JT had something to do with Moulson? A lot of people like to believe that. It was reported that he put in a good word to what extent i don't know?
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:13 PM ET
Very comfortable...no risk of him being let go.

Personally, I don't think Snow will buy or sell. I think he already has an idea of what he wants next year's team to look like. He's grooming this year's second line to be next year's third, so I don't think he'll move Okposo or Bailey. He'll probably re-sign Streit...try to re-sign Vis or maybe move him for a pick, and probably re-sign Boyes, and that'll be that.

Next year's first line stays the same, the third line will be this year's second and the fourth will be this year's third. The new second line might look something like Grabner-Strome-Niederreiter. The D will be largely the same cast of characters with some prospects like Donovan and Reinhart pushing the current d-men for spots. Maybe Nabby comes back for another year.

Just my thoughts on how it'll go. Don't really agree, and would like to see more of a shakeup and a bigger effort to bring in legit players from the outside, but I don't think it'll happen, based on how Snow's handled things up to now. He has his long-term plan, has the support of ownership, and there's little pressure on him to alter course or speed things up.

- UIF



i disagree, if for no other reason (and without putting pen to paper) i believe the team you have constructed would be WAAAAY below the cap floor.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 25 @ 12:16 PM ET
i disagree, if for no other reason (and without putting pen to paper) i believe the team you have constructed would be WAAAAY below the cap floor.
- LetsGoIsles


I hope you are right. I'd hate to see almost the same team back next year.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:17 PM ET
i disagree, if for no other reason (and without putting pen to paper) i believe the team you have constructed would be WAAAAY below the cap floor.
- LetsGoIsles

You have a point there unless he does the bonus thing he seems to do? Structure the contract with bonuses that will never be met to facilitate more cap space, I don't know if the new CBA prevents that garbage from happening anymore?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:17 PM ET
I hope you are right. I'd hate to see almost the same team back next year.
- ses111

It would be an insult to the fans and most of all the players like Tavares. Sends a horrible message. Past history will dictate that this does'nt seem to bother Wang/Snow all that much.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:19 PM ET
You have a point there unless he does the bonus thing he seems to do. Structure the contract with bonuses that will never be met to facilitate more cap space, I don't know if the new CBA prevents that garbage from happening anymore?
- Cptmjl



i dk the intricacies of the cba, but off the top of my head, nabby, thomas, streit, boyes, and visnovsky are all coming off the books...thats A LOT of money to make the floor. maybe hell go the bonus route; but this is a big reason as to why i think this is going to be a very fruitful deadline but more importantly offseason for the islanders.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 25 @ 12:20 PM ET
You don't think so? I think he definitely could get a high first. I think you are undervaluing which I'm shocked by
- Cptmjl


Not sure why you'd be shocked, I've been knocking Streit all season long, and part of last year. A 35 year old puck moving dman with little defenisve abilities who happens to be a UFA? I think we'd probably top out at a 2nd rounder.

*edit, for the record, I think we'll resign him
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:21 PM ET
i dk the intricacies of the cba, but off the top of my head, nabby, thomas, streit, boyes, and visnovsky are all coming off the books...thats A LOT of money to make the floor. maybe hell go the bonus route; but this is a big reason as to why i think this is going to be a very fruitful deadline but more importantly offseason for the islanders.
- LetsGoIsles

The scary thing is 4 of the 5 you mentioned could all be inked to extensions like UIF mentioned. I hope he does'nt but it's very believable.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:23 PM ET
Not sure why you'd be shocked, I've been knocking Streit all season long, and part of last year. A 35 year old puck moving dman with little defenisve abilities who happens to be a UFA? I think we'd probably top out at a 2nd rounder.
- keaner17

I'm not a huge fan of Streit myself but what I think does'nt affect his value thankfully. Come playoff time teams are always looking for Offensive minded D. I'm not talking MAB but Streit will have some value( ) , I believe more than a 2nd rounder.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 12:23 PM ET
Not sure why you'd be shocked, I've been knocking Streit all season long, and part of last year. A 35 year old puck moving dman with little defenisve abilities who happens to be a UFA? I think we'd probably top out at a 2nd rounder.

*edit, for the record, I think we'll resign him

- keaner17

I hope not.
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