I know you have mentioned the Hawks looking at Chris Neil from Ottawa before. I really don't see Ottawa moving him.

They don't have a lot of toughness to begin with and he is now part of the core leadership of the team. He has been wearing the 'A' a lot of games with Spezza out. He's a pretty valuable guy. There are not very many 200 PIM guys that a coach can put out on the ice in the last minute of a game.

It would take significant over-payment from the Hawks for Ottawa to deal Neil.
- maaddmike

What would Ottawa need in return for Neil?

Sharp has also been out for some time, and is a proven 30 goal scorer. I don't see the deal that was suggesting happening, especially with the way Montreal is playing.
- howiehandles

You need to get bigger and tougher supporting roles players. Chi and Mtl are not good trading partners right now. You hear all these rumblings because of Bergevin's ties to the organization.

Sorry haven't had, don't have ANY faith in Stan BLowSman's ability to pull off any trade that would help this team. His daddy? ...maybe.... Him? Un ah. He is like an empty quarry......NO STONES

You need to get bigger and tougher supporting roles players. Chi and Mtl are not good trading partners right now. You hear all these rumblings because of Bergevin's ties to the organization.
- Champ

Agree.

But one day, sooner than later, a center will have to go. And Chi needs one. The only thing making sense to me is Plekanec for Sharp in the summer. Anything else would be lateral move.

Well, as far as the home thing -- AFAIK, Mr. Campbell STILL owns the beautiful home in Lincoln Park. Now whether he's renting it (doubtful) or has some other family member or friend living there, I don't know.

I do know for certain that my daughter saw him just prior to the lockout ending, having just pulled into his garage in his Range Rover, with his new wife. As she walked by, she said "Hi Brian" and he replied with a pleasant "Hello."

If Campbell can keep his equally expensive residence in Lincoln Park, no reason Sharpie can't keep his in Roscoe Village!
- savvyone-1

Soupy is still well-connected to the Chicago boys. He really seems to have made long-term friends here. Remember during the lockout, he was skating with many of the 'Hawks players with whom he won the 2010 cup. Wonder if Sharpie would do the same. Doesn't matter, cuz if I had to place a bet, Sharpie and his $5.9M cap hit stays.

I'm sorry. Are you saying Leddy has higher upside than Subban?? If you truly believe that, i will agree with your second sentence.



- soad_live

I don't know if he does or doesn't. Go back and read what I actually wrote. Then stop and think about it before hitting a keystroke.

Hard to say. There are some who believe Leddy has a very high upside.

John Jaeckel: Rumor-Palooza 2013
- John Jaeckel

Leddy, a top Hawk forward, Max Pacioretty, Lars Eller, Raphael Diaz, and Alexei Emelin.

Agreed. But you trade for a need. Habs don't really need another puck moving D. You don't make a trade to create a big hole somewhere else. I can see Eller being traded but not Pacioretty. Why would you want Gionta, Desharnais. Bourque brings some much need size, but been there done that.
- Champ

Call Marc Bergevin. Argue with him about why he shouldn't want Nick Leddy. I hear he does. OK?

Might take Bollig or Carcillo and another decent prospect.
- John Jaeckel

getting Carcillo was the right idea.....but he got hurt and suspended and really never accomplished much-------getting Martin for him and having to toss in a maybe someday kid would be terrific. I don't understand getting rid of Leddy unless you are getting back a playoff ready guy. If upside was part of the conversation, you keep Leddy unless of course you're really trading Sheehy. The best trade in franchise history was Pully getting Secord for O'Connell (sort of Leddyish though older)....

You need to get bigger and tougher supporting roles players. Chi and Mtl are not good trading partners right now. You hear all these rumblings because of Bergevin's ties to the organization.
- Champ

REPEAT:

"Bergevin wants to put his stamp on the team—whatever that entails. To that end, there are a couple of Hawk players that HE has been on the Hawks about, not so much the other way around."

Agree.

But one day, sooner than later, a center will have to go. And Chi needs one. The only thing making sense to me is Plekanec for Sharp in the summer. Anything else would be lateral move.
- soad_live

Agreed but everyone overvalues their players because they see them play more than the other. Plekanec's value is not his ability to rack up points. He chews up alot a minutes and mostly playing against the opposing teams best line. He plays the PP and the PK. He should be a 2nd line center and a very very good one. If he is the 3rd line centerman on your team, then you should be a Stanley Cup favourite. He would be like Dustin Brown but not as tough but better offensively.

- muffin_man

Funny . . . that this thread has gone around to Campbell. Everyone also laughed when I said he could be traded in 2011. Then he was.

ANYONE is tradeable for the right price.

REPEAT:

"Bergevin wants to put his stamp on the team—whatever that entails. To that end, there are a couple of Hawk players that HE has been on the Hawks about, not so much the other way around."
- John Jaeckel

You know how people laugh at Ek for not having a filter?

Leddy, a top Hawk forward, Max Pacioretty, Lars Eller, Raphael Diaz, and Alexei Emelin.

This is why.

- muffin_man

You're right. None of those players will ever be traded. But will you come back and admit you were wrong when it eventually happens? Probably not.

You know how people laugh at Ek for not having a filter? This is why.
- muffin_man

Those are names I got from a source much closer to the reality of what's been discussed than you are. he lurks here often. And he's probably going to have a nice laugh—at your expense.

Here's another thing that's funny. Those are names being discussed. So, conceivably, there could be a deal for a top Hawk forward for Diaz. In theory. But that could never happen from a Montreal perspective, right? Wrong.

So, you're just trolling or not able to think outside a small box. Not sure which. But whatever. Here's some news: names get thrown out in trade discussions.

Have a nice day.

Montreal-Chicago deal is much more likely in the offseason.

Hockey people will tell you, Leddy could have higher upside than all the d-men you named as "filling" your puck-moving need.

Fans assume things based on greater familiarity with their current roster than awareness of other assets around the league (especially in the other conference).

The teams are talking. You might be surprised what transpires.
- John Jaeckel

Leddy>Subban. Gotcha

REPEAT:

"Bergevin wants to put his stamp on the team—whatever that entails. To that end, there are a couple of Hawk players that HE has been on the Hawks about, not so much the other way around."
- John Jaeckel

Again: Everything you say makes sense, but he is not an idiot either. He will not overpay for a player and create a whole elsewhere in his roster, especially in his first year. I think Montreal is overachieving. They are not as good as their record. You don't normally jump from 15th to 1st or 2nd. I think he will build long term. If he wants a rental, he will trade a 2nd round pick not an active roster player.

That's what I'm hearing.

Again: Everything you say makes sense, but he is not an idiot either. He will not overpay for a player and create a whole elsewhere in his roster, especially in his first year. I think Montreal is overachieving. They are not as good as their record. You don't normally jump from 15th to 1st or 2nd. I think he will build long term. If he wants a rental, he will trade a 2nd round pick not an active roster player.

That's what I'm hearing.
- Champ

Totally agree.

Those are names I got from a source much closer to the reality of what's been discussed than you are. he lurks here often. And he's probably going to have a nice laugh—at your expense.

Have a nice day.
- John Jaeckel

Also, I never said none would ever get traded but if you're suggesting Leddy and 1 top liner for Pacioretty, Eller, Diaz, Emelin, you're insane.

Again: Everything you say makes sense, but he is not an idiot either. He will not overpay for a player and create a whole elsewhere in his roster, especially in his first year. I think Montreal is overachieving. They are not as good as their record. You don't normally jump from 15th to 1st or 2nd. I think he will build long term. If he wants a rental, he will trade a 2nd round pick not an active roster player.

That's what I'm hearing.
- Champ

Leddy>Subban. Gotcha
- muffin_man

I didn't say Leddy was better than Subban. I said there are some hockey people who feel he could potentially have a higher upside. There, in fact, are.

Keep it up. This is starting to feel trolly. You are trying to put words in my mouth.

You're right. None of those players will ever be traded. But will you come back and admit you were wrong when it eventually happens? Probably not.
- John Jaeckel

No one said they will ever be traded. Most players do.

Also, I never said none would ever get traded but if you're suggesting Leddy and 1 top liner for Pacioretty, Eller, Diaz, Emelin, you're insane.
- muffin_man

I'm not suggesting nor reporting that. READ. I said those are names being thrown around.

A "deal" would likely compose some of those players—and/or include picks or prospects.

Again, don't put words in my mouth for the sake of an argument.

I didn't say Leddy was better than Subban. I said there are some hockey people who feel he could potentially have a higher upside. There, in fact, are.

Keep it up. This is starting to feel trolly. You are trying to put words in my mouth.
- John Jaeckel

Subban would look good in a Hawks jersey and would flourish in an american market.

"Names I have heard in the last 48 hours are Leddy, a top Hawk forward, Max Pacioretty, Lars Eller, Raphael Diaz, and Alexei Emelin. "

Nowhere in there is the word "for" or "in exchange for."