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exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Mar 21 @ 3:46 PM ET
How many youtube links did you include in the email?
- BringBack25


DAMN! Of all things to forget...

I'm on it ...
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 3:53 PM ET
He did and when it was over I posted this on his facebook page:


- Lexington Flyer

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 3:54 PM ET



- Lexington Flyer

BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Mar 21 @ 3:54 PM ET
DAMN! Of all things to forget...

I'm on it ...

- exlund


great. way to ruin our chances. #doomed
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 21 @ 3:55 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno


He banned me from posting on his page for a while after that series. He loves to dish it out though so...
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 21 @ 3:57 PM ET

- JoeRussomanno


Yeah...I didn't think the youtube links were necessary on that one ...

(frank)...I gotta get back to work. Comedy hour is over. I won't be here all week
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
DAMN! Of all things to forget...

I'm on it ...

- exlund

Be sure not to give them descriptive titles. Nothing creates the delicious dramatic tension quite like being greeted by that '031312.avi '
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 3:58 PM ET
He banned me from posting on his page for a while after that series. He loves to dish it out though so...
- Lexington Flyer

its usually the ones who love to dish it out that have to block you too. I've only ever unfriended one person so far and it was cause he pulled that crap with me cause I logically destroyed all his bible blanketed bigotry. No that's not saying if you read the bible you're a bigot either just don't be one and hide behind it that's all. sorry don't want to start an off topic war just wanted to state what I'm about.
TorontoFLYER
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Mar 21 @ 4:02 PM ET
Agreed. They can't afford to move these guys unless they have an upgrade lined up already. The departure of Mez or The Nose, while neither is playing stellar hockey this season (or simply just being banged up in Mez's case) would leave a huge chasm of a hole on D. Really they have one hole to fill on D. The ever revolving Gus/Foster/Gervais spot. But basically the tricky part is that they have to fill a spot currently filled by a #6 guy with a #1 guy. On paper a defense of....

#1 guy - Schenn
Timmo - The Nose
Mez - Grossmann

....well that looks pretty (frank)ing decent. Schenn and Grossmann are somewhat interchangeable there. Then Gus fills the #7 spot duty slot as needed.

Land the #1 guy, get Lavi (if he is still behind the bench) to tweak his system according to the personnel...or replace him with someone who will, Bring in a solid muck/grind/face off/PK center, and as much as I hate to say it, trade or buyout Briere. If Holmer can accomplish all that (getting the #1 guy will be the hardest) in the offseason, next season should see a big improvement over this season. He may have to bite the bullet and deal from the forward core to get the #1 D-man, but that is the only way he should be moving anyone out. If someone has to go, hopefully Holmer can talk someone into taking Read, and some combination of picks and prospects. I would be loathe to move Schenn or Coots. G is still quite untouchable. Would Read, the 2013 1st (assuming it is going to be a higher pick, and Gus bring in a true #1 D-man? Seems like a lot to give up, but Holmer may have to get creative.

- Lexington Flyer


If possible I would like to see what Homer could get for Mez and possibly Briere...St.Louis was rumored to be interested in Briere as they need scoring big time and maybe Danny B can produce in the playoffs. Shattenkirk would be nice for the two of them...They have a lot of cap space plus they will be loosing Macdonald at the end of the season.. Then I would use that money to sign Clarkson in the offseason and go after that #1 Dman via trade.....couturier , pick, Gus......Don't know what it would take to get Weber... Or how long he has to stay with the Preds, but we need a #1 Dman badley!


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 21 @ 4:04 PM ET
Narrowing the teams down...possibly choosing by this weekend. I actually emailed the kid trying to sell him on Philly.
- exlund


Oh, that should help.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
its usually the ones who love to dish it out that have to block you too. I've only ever unfriended one person so far and it was cause he pulled that crap with me cause I logically destroyed all his bible blanketed bigotry. No that's not saying if you read the bible you're a bigot either just don't be one and hide behind it that's all. sorry don't want to start an off topic war just wanted to state what I'm about.
- JoeRussomanno


I get you man...but regarding the bolded ... good luck

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
I get you man...but regarding the bolded ... good luck


- Lexington Flyer

I'm a middle of the road kind of guy, in a diverse society I think it would behoove us all to get a long. That's all I ask. Someone's skin color or sexual orientation is pretty petty to fight over, especially in this day and age. Okay I'm done.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
I'm a middle of the road kind of guy, in a diverse society I think it would behoove us all to get a long. That's all I ask. Someone's skin color or sexual orientation is pretty petty to fight over, especially in this day and age. Okay I'm done.
- JoeRussomanno




Post of the day! More relevant to any of our lives than anything hockey (love it as we may) has to offer. You are preaching to the choir here man...now really...I gots ta split. Peace...out!

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:20 PM ET


Post of the day! More relevant to any of our lives than anything hockey (love it as we may) has to offer. You are preaching to the choir here man...now really...I gots ta split. Peace...out!


- Lexington Flyer

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 4:22 PM ET
If possible I would like to see what Homer could get for Mez and possibly Briere...St.Louis was rumored to be interested in Briere as they need scoring big time and maybe Danny B can produce in the playoffs. Shattenkirk would be nice for the two of them...They have a lot of cap space plus they will be loosing Macdonald at the end of the season.. Then I would use that money to sign Clarkson in the offseason and go after that #1 Dman via trade.....couturier , pick, Gus......Don't know what it would take to get Weber... Or how long he has to stay with the Preds, but we need a #1 Dman badley!
- TorontoFLYER


The Blues aren't going to trade Shattenkirk for Briere and Meszaros. And it's not likely that Nashville will trade Weber.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:25 PM ET
The Blues aren't going to trade Shattenkirk for Briere and Meszaros. And it's not likely that Nashville will trade Weber.
- MJL

did their gm study at the school of Bob Clarke general management by any chance?
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Mar 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
If possible I would like to see what Homer could get for Mez and possibly Briere...St.Louis was rumored to be interested in Briere as they need scoring big time and maybe Danny B can produce in the playoffs. Shattenkirk would be nice for the two of them...They have a lot of cap space plus they will be loosing Macdonald at the end of the season.. Then I would use that money to sign Clarkson in the offseason and go after that #1 Dman via trade.....couturier , pick, Gus......Don't know what it would take to get Weber... Or how long he has to stay with the Preds, but we need a #1 Dman badley!
- TorontoFLYER


I can't see Nashville trading Weber anytime soon after giving him $27 million in one calendar year.
TorontoFLYER
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.26.2013

Mar 21 @ 4:32 PM ET
The Blues aren't going to trade Shattenkirk for Briere and Meszaros. And it's not likely that Nashville will trade Weber.
- MJL


Well I don't know who is going to trade who...... But you know Homer must get a # 1 Dman from somewhere because we cannot go into another season without....
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 4:34 PM ET
Well I don't know who is going to trade who...... But you know Homer must get a # 1 Dman from somewhere because we cannot go into another season without....
- TorontoFLYER


There's a definite need. But #1 defenseman are hard to come by. But teams aren't going to give you their top players for your castaways.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:37 PM ET
Well I don't know who is going to trade who...... But you know Homer must get a # 1 Dman from somewhere because we cannot go into another season without....
- TorontoFLYER

You're heart is in the right place but I think you're reasoning is in the clouds a bit. Defensemen of Shattenkirk's value are going to command waaay more than a player in the twilight of his career and a guy like Meszaros who is not a number one with some serious injury history in the past year.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
Agreed. They can't afford to move these guys unless they have an upgrade lined up already. The departure of Mez or The Nose, while neither is playing stellar hockey this season (or simply just being banged up in Mez's case) would leave a huge chasm of a hole on D. Really they have one hole to fill on D. The ever revolving Gus/Foster/Gervais spot. But basically the tricky part is that they have to fill a spot currently filled by a #6 guy with a #1 guy. On paper a defense of....

#1 guy - Schenn
Timmo - The Nose
Mez - Grossmann

....well that looks pretty (frank)ing decent. Schenn and Grossmann are somewhat interchangeable there. Then Gus fills the #7 spot duty slot as needed.

Land the #1 guy, get Lavi (if he is still behind the bench) to tweak his system according to the personnel...or replace him with someone who will, Bring in a solid muck/grind/face off/PK center, and as much as I hate to say it, trade or buyout Briere. If Holmer can accomplish all that (getting the #1 guy will be the hardest) in the offseason, next season should see a big improvement over this season. He may have to bite the bullet and deal from the forward core to get the #1 D-man, but that is the only way he should be moving anyone out. If someone has to go, hopefully Holmer can talk someone into taking Read, and some combination of picks and prospects. I would be loathe to move Schenn or Coots. G is still quite untouchable. Would Read, the 2013 1st (assuming it is going to be a higher pick, and Gus bring in a true #1 D-man? Seems like a lot to give up, but Holmer may have to get creative.

- Lexington Flyer


Just one little problem. The cap hit of your 2-7 is around 22.5 million. add a number one to that and your looking at a total for just your D of 29-30 million!

You do know that next year's cap is only 64.3, right??
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
Well I don't know who is going to trade who...... But you know Homer must get a # 1 Dman from somewhere because we cannot go into another season without....
- TorontoFLYER

If we trade for a #1 defenseman, the cost will be painful. I'm not saying I wouldn't make such a trade, but it'll definitely hurt to see what's going the other way.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 21 @ 4:44 PM ET
If we trade for a #1 defenseman, the cost will be painful. I'm not saying I wouldn't make such a trade, but it'll definitely hurt to see what's going the other way.
- BulliesPhan87

true dat
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 21 @ 4:47 PM ET
If we trade for a #1 defenseman, the cost will be painful. I'm not saying I wouldn't make such a trade, but it'll definitely hurt to see what's going the other way.
- BulliesPhan87


If a team is willing to trade a top defenseman to the Flyers. It's pretty easy to guess who is going to be on the list of players they'll ask for in return.
Jimmygrazz
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 04.23.2010

Mar 21 @ 4:48 PM ET
Just one little problem. The cap hit of your 2-7 is around 22.5 million. add a number one to that and your looking at a total for just your D of 29-30 million!

You do know that next year's cap is only 64.3, right??

- BiggE


Everyone seems to forget this. Flyers are at like 56 mill already for next year with 11 free agents.
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