He still averages about 20 a night. He has 5 goals. He's a +8
- Just5

Valid point. I hadn't thought he was playing that well, but yeah, the numbers are very solid across the board for him

In making a coburn deal. It's important to note the landscape of the NHL. There will be many teams that still believe their in the race at the deadline. With some small market teams maybe willing to overpay (Columbus, NYI). Now you have the possibility of getting a 1st from a team that maybe just misses out on the playoffs. Now you have 2 LOTTERY picks.

The argument that you need to have a rock solid plan to replace coburn next year in April, is a weak one IMO
- Just5

The chances of getting a lottery pick for Coburn is remote. And based on the amount of time that this board has spent criticizing the GM, for his failures in the off season in putting a defense together, and his lack of a plan B. Stating that having a rock solid plan in place to replace a top defenseman is a weak argument, is a curious statement.

Coburn has one goal and is a -11 and leads the universe in minor penalties. So put that in your pipe and smoke it!
- PLindbergh31

4 goals. 11 points. He still very capable

after 9pm on a non-game day, and still going strong. how many dead horses have been beaten?

Theres no guarantee this team will be any worse than this year if they trade Coburn and get back a cheaper third pairing along with a prospect and picks.
- stveshdy

You mean they can be worse than this? Unpossible.

don't look now guys, but florida and buffalo are BOTH WINNING

You mean they can be worse than this? Unpossible.
- PLindbergh31

Obviously you forget 2006-07

don't look now guys, but florida and buffalo are BOTH WINNING
- FlyerMike18

Go PANATHER AND SBERS

Obviously you forget 2006-07
- Jsaquella

I have blocked that season from my memory. In my world there was a lockout that year.

Theres no guarantee this team will be any worse than this year if they trade Coburn and get back a cheaper third pairing along with a prospect and picks.
- stveshdy

That would largely depend on who constitutes that cheaper 3rd pair.

Coburn has one goal and is a -11 and leads the universe in minor penalties. So put that in your pipe and smoke it!
- PLindbergh31

We're gonna miss his (cough cough) two way game

don't look now guys, but florida and buffalo are BOTH WINNING
- FlyerMike18

don't look now guys, but florida and buffalo are BOTH WINNING
- FlyerMike18

Yaaaa baby!! Guys we should be feeling great. This is a great draft!

don't look now guys, but florida and buffalo are BOTH WINNING
- FlyerMike18

Here we go!

don't look now guys, but florida and buffalo are BOTH WINNING
- FlyerMike18

Woohoo!.....I guess

We're gonna miss his (cough cough) two way game
- Just5

Coburn is a capable guy, he's just too inconsistent for my liking. As Bill once said, he's either great, or awful. There is no middle ground with him. And lately there has been a lot more awful, than great.

That would largely depend on who constitutes that cheaper 3rd pair.
- MJL

Depends on what the Flyers would add. I would look at adding more mobile defenseman.

I'm not asking you to predict the future. Just to think about all the ramifications and possibilities in trading Coburn. Again, isn't letting the GM do his job also include who to trade?
- MJL

I would love to see the flyers package Coburn and a pick/s or Coburn and a prospect for a younger, more offensive type of a defenseman. Some players that come to mind: Yandle (PHX), Shattenkirk (STL), Kulikov (FLA), Sbisa/ Fowler (ANA), Josi (NSH), Weber (MTL) and Petry (EDM). As a matter of fact, I think I could go down every team's roster and find a young, puck moving d-man that I would consider moving Coburn for. This is assuming we have Kimmo, Schenn, Grossman and Mez next season.

The chances of getting a lottery pick for Coburn is remote. And based on the amount of time that this boardhas spent criticizing the GM, for his failures in the off season in putting a defense together, and his lack of a plan B. Stating that having a rock solid plan in place to replace a top defenseman is a weak argument, is a curious statement.
- MJL

This board is also a board full of lunatics with varying opinions therefore categorizing them as a whole is as pointless as a rumor site with bogus rumors.

Coburn is a capable guy, he's just too inconsistent for my liking. As Bill once said, he's either great, or awful. There is no middle ground with him. And lately there has been a lot more awful, than great.
- PLindbergh31

He will still get a good return because teams overpay and every team thinks there one player away.

Obviously you forget 2006-07
- Jsaquella

i wish i could. thank gd i gave up my season tickets that year.

Coburn is a capable guy, he's just too inconsistent for my liking. As Bill once said, he's either great, or awful. There is no middle ground with him. And lately there has been a lot more awful, than great.
- PLindbergh31

He's playing terrible. He is still our 2nd best defenseman. (Mez close when healthy) He will bring in a haul.

He's playing terrible. He is still our 2nd best defenseman. (Mez close when healthy) He will bring in a haul.
- Just5

Could change the landscape of the team. How about for once we sell a good player and get a great return?

He will still get a good return because teams overpay and every team thinks there one player away.
- stveshdy

I'm trying to think of a team that is good that could use an upgrade on the blueline. Thing is the good teams have 4 dmen all better than Coburn, he makes a lot of coin for someone to put on their third pairing.

I would love to see the flyers package Coburn and a pick/s or Coburn and a prospect for a younger, more offensive type of a defenseman. Some players that come to mind: Yandle (PHX), Shattenkirk (STL), Kulikov (FLA), Sbisa/ Fowler (ANA), Josi (NSH), Weber (MTL) and Petry (EDM). As a matter of fact, I think I could go down every team's roster and find a young, puck moving d-man that I would consider moving Coburn for. This is assuming we have Kimmo, Schenn, Grossman and Mez next season.
- jeffherrm

That pick would likely have to be a first. And you know that if you want a team's top young defenseman, they're going to be asking for B Schenn or Couturier in return.