I would like to get back a younger defenseman whos ready to play on the 3rd pairing (to start his career off) who is on the cusp of the NHL. Add that with a pick and I think the Flyers would be moving in the right direction.
- stveshdy

Depends on the pick. I just am tired of spending on free agents that don't really fill the needs.

Understandable.

Im more in a mindset of trying to find a replacement instead of simply waiting to see if there is a better one.

You dont want Hainsey for 5 years at 4.5 million?
- flyer_nutter

I'd rather have Coburn than Hainsey

38 games over a couple of seasons, one goal and minus 17. The solution?
- strongsupporter

Exactly. Rundblad has a lot of physical skills and tools, but the NHL play has been up and down thus far

Depends on the pick. I just am tired of spending on free agents that don't really fill the needs.
- Jsaquella

I agree. This is why I would be willing to trade for that younger cheap defenseman and also get a pick in return.

Add a cheap vet in the offseason if needed. The options are there but the GM has to be smart about doing it.

Need to build the farm system defensive core. Get some picks for Coburn, Briere, and Gagne. Thats the direction I would be moving in.

38 games over a couple of seasons, one goal and minus 17. The solution?
- strongsupporter

Obviously you're not a golfer.

38 games over a couple of seasons, one goal and minus 17. The solution?
- strongsupporter

I would prefer a guy like Voynov or Leddy but I dont think they will be available.

Dont think Murray could be had from Columbus but you never know with that franchise.

Im thinking they finish 7th behind Florida, Buffalo, Colorado, Calgary, Washington, Columbus and Tampa in that order.
- flyer_nutter

I'm thinking Top 5 pick. This team is going to drop even further in the standings before they play another game (Sunday).

I agree. This is why I would be willing to trade for that younger cheap defenseman and also get a pick in return.

Add a cheap vet in the offseason if needed. The options are there but the GM has to be smart about doing it.

Need to build the farm system defensive core. Get some picks for Coburn, Briere, and Gagne. Thats the direction I would be moving in.
- stveshdy

Right, but can that cheap vet be utilized like Coburn? Chances are he can't be.

I would prefer a guy like Voynov or Leddy but I dont think they will be available.

Dont think Murray could be had from Columbus but you never know with that franchise.
- flyer_nutter

Kekalainen has three first rounders in the draft, he's got little reason to move Murray.

He can build that into a real solid team in a few years

Right, but can that cheap vet be utilized like Coburn? Chances are he can't be.
- Jsaquella

I don't think its fair to assume that these guys cant fill the void. Flyers need to find players who work hard, play smart hockey and fit the style that Lavi wants.

A lot will depend on what teams offer for Coburn. I think the Flyers could get a nice return b/c teams always overpay at the deadline.

I don't think its fair to assume that these guys cant fill the void. Flyers need to find players who work hard, play smart hockey and fit the style that Lavi wants.

A lot will depend on what teams offer for Coburn. I think the Flyers could get a nice return b/c teams always overpay at the deadline.
- stveshdy

Coburn's a better fit for Laviolette's style than Luke Schenn or Grossmann.

Coburn's a better fit for Laviolette's style than Luke Schenn or Grossmann.
- Jsaquella

Grossmann is the best defenseman they have so no way do they move him. Schenn is still very young and raw.

I wouldn't be opposed to moving Mez but I dont think he brings back a return like Coburn.

I'm looking on capgeek and I see a lot of teams who don't have big $ tied up in their 3rd pairing. Don't see why the Flyers cant do the same.

I agree. This is why I would be willing to trade for that younger cheap defenseman and also get a pick in return.

Add a cheap vet in the offseason if needed. The options are there but the GM has to be smart about doing it.

Need to build the farm system defensive core. Get some picks for Coburn, Briere, and Gagne. Thats the direction I would be moving in.
- stveshdy

With Perry off the table, I am really curious to see what they do regarding the forwards.

I'd be looking at Torres, and would love to have Morrow/Iginla infuse some of that "right" attitude into this team. The age with those two does scare me though, and I think both are a long shot. I dont think Horton will be worth his raise and the only other name Id have any interest in off the top of my head is Raymond.

I think the options for improving this team in FA are limited. The organization has a choice to either sit with their young core or send out some pieces. Chris Stewart is the best looking RFA forward to me, but I dont think St. Louis lets him go.

With Perry off the table, I am really curious to see what they do regarding the forwards.

I'd be looking at Torres, and would love to have Morrow/Iginla infuse some of that "right" attitude into this team. The age with those two does scare me though, and I think both are a long shot. I dont think Horton will be worth his raise and the only other name Id have any interest in off the top of my head is Raymond.

I think the options for improving this team in FA are limited. The organization has a choice to either sit with their young core or send out some pieces. Chris Stewart is the best looking RFA forward to me, but I dont think St. Louis lets him go.
- flyer_nutter

I don't see the Flyers winning a cup next year either so my goal is to get back prospects (on verge of NHL) and picks during the deadline. Time to upgrade by building your farm system so you dont have to overpay for players all the time.

My concern is that when your strategy is 'wait to fill the role in the summer' for the blueline, there's a chance you'll you strike out, sign Bruno Gervais and Kurtis Foster, and have a poop season. To me, I prefer the security of knowing what Coburn is, to trading him for whatever, and hoping something can happen in the summer.
- BulliesPhan87

Come on man, like that would ever happen. Nobody would sign those two stiffs...

Coburn's a better fit for Laviolette's style than Luke Schenn or Grossmann.
- Jsaquella

Definately true. Im kind of suprised Lava is still around, I would have fired him myself. Maybe the organization will try to better build the team to fit his style? Who knows.

Regarding Coburn, I think if you end up having 3 shutdown D of Grossman, Schenn and Murray for example you have the other 3 being 2 way guys. Meszaros and Timonen can move the puck. I dont know if the Flyers will find that d-man they really need until one of the kids they draft makes an impact.

Definately true. Im kind of suprised Lava is still around, I would have fired him myself. Maybe the organization will try to better build the team to fit his style? Who knows.

Regarding Coburn, I think if you end up having 3 shutdown D of Grossman, Schenn and Murray for example you have the other 3 being 2 way guys. Meszaros and Timonen can move the puck. I dont know if the Flyers will find that d-man they really need until one of the kids they draft makes an impact.
- flyer_nutter

I absolutely hate the fact that this team can't go to their farm system and have a quality defenseman step in. Not a single one.

With Perry off the table, I am really curious to see what they do regarding the forwards.

I'd be looking at Torres, and would love to have Morrow/Iginla infuse some of that "right" attitude into this team. The age with those two does scare me though, and I think both are a long shot. I dont think Horton will be worth his raise and the only other name Id have any interest in off the top of my head is Raymond.

I think the options for improving this team in FA are limited. The organization has a choice to either sit with their young core or send out some pieces. Chris Stewart is the best looking RFA forward to me, but I dont think St. Louis lets him go.
- flyer_nutter

The top 6 are fine in my opinion. Even the top 9 is pretty well rounded with McGinn and Laughton coming up. Outside a faceoff guy for the 4th line I don't see us doing too much in regards to FA forwards.

I don't see the Flyers winning a cup next year either so my goal is to get back prospects (on verge of NHL) and picks during the deadline. Time to upgrade by building your farm system so you dont have to overpay for players all the time.
- stveshdy

To get where they really have to be, and dancing with the cup I think thats what they have to do.

All of these other moves, Murray, Rundblad whatever else are secondary to me. Build through the draft, and sorround those players with the right kind of players. That bring consistent hard work, and the right attitude/identity. Its not the end of the world, they do have some pieces already.

The top 6 are fine in my opinion. Even the top 9 is pretty well rounded with McGinn and Laughton coming up. Outside a faceoff guy for the 4th line I don't see us doing to much in regards to FA forwards.
- hereticpride

I agree. This draft is deep and the Flyers need to get as many picks as possible.

I don't think its fair to assume that these guys cant fill the void. Flyers need to find players who work hard, play smart hockey and fit the style that Lavi wants.

A lot will depend on what teams offer for Coburn. I think the Flyers could get a nice return b/c teams always overpay at the deadline.
- stveshdy

Not to nitpick, but you misspelled "new coach".

The top 6 are fine in my opinion. Even the top 9 is pretty well rounded with McGinn and Laughton coming up. Outside a faceoff guy for the 4th line I don't see us doing to much in regards to FA forwards.
- hereticpride

I would be sending out Knuble, Fedetenko, and Briere. If they want to replace them with kids like McGinn and Laughton so be it, but I would be looking in other places also.

I'd be in favour of seeing how they could use Brayden Schenn to upgrade in other areas. If the deal makes sense I'd make one.

In terms of Gagne, I would let him go, but I think the re-sign him.

To get where they really have to be, and dancing with the cup I think thats what they have to do.

All of these other moves, Murray, Rundblad whatever else are secondary to me. Build through the draft, and sorround those players with the right kind of players. That bring consistent hard work, and the right attitude/identity. Its not the end of the world, they do have some pieces already.
- flyer_nutter

Its all about the identity that this organization wants to instill. Doesn't matter who the coach is b/c every single year you know what your looking for when drafting.

Not to nitpick, but you misspelled "new coach".
- BringBack25

The organization needs an identity. Have to stick with it no matter what. Can't keep changing every year.

So if Lavi doesnt fit that identity then its time to send him away.

Not to nitpick, but you misspelled "new coach".
- BringBack25

Myself & Jsaquella have a few in mind.