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kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Mar 19 @ 12:50 PM ET
a) "IT" is referring to being competitive...

B)THU FEB 28, 2013 MAPLE LEAFS ISLANDERS 7:00 PM FINAL TOR(5)-NYI (4)OT
SUN MAR 3, 2013 SENATORS ISLANDERS 3:00 PM FINAL OTT(2)-NYI (3) SO
TUE MAR 5, 2013 CANADIENS ISLANDERS 7:00 PM FINAL MTL (3) - NYI (6)
THU MAR 7, 2013 RANGERS ISLANDERS 7:00 PM FINAL NYR (2) - NYI (1) OT
SAT MAR 9, 2013 CAPITALS ISLANDERS 1:00 PM FINAL WSH (2) - NYI (5)
SUN MAR 10, 2013 ISLANDERS PENGUINS 7:00 PM FINAL NYI (1) - PIT (6)
THU MAR 14, 2013 ISLANDERS LIGHTNING 7:30 PM FINAL NYI (2) - TBL (0)
SAT MAR 16, 2013 ISLANDERS PANTHERS 7:30 PM FINAL NYI (4) - FLA (3)

points in 7 of 8, thats pretty consistent no?

- LetsGoIsles


For some reason this made my eyes hurt
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 19 @ 12:50 PM ET
I will say he was a techincally sound goaltender so he may be a decent coach. Sudsi was awful. I remember reading an article on his approach to coaching where it said he coached DP to 'stay down on the ice because he felt most goals were scored when a goaltender transitioned from the ice back to his stance'. I'm a bit of a purist since I preferred standup style and then hybrid after that so the idea of telling an undersized goaltender to never recover his stance was just bad advice (IMO).
I think to a point DP was probably uncoachable, but I don't think Sudsi was going to help much. It's a shame we couldn't get Vanbiesbrouk to coach him after his retirement.

- keaner17


Maybe he's a good coach, but man, I remember he let in like 25 or so goals during five straight starts before they mercifully went with Dubi the rest of the way.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Mar 19 @ 12:52 PM ET
a) "IT" is referring to being competitive...

B)THU FEB 28, 2013 MAPLE LEAFS ISLANDERS 7:00 PM FINAL TOR(5)-NYI (4)OT
SUN MAR 3, 2013 SENATORS ISLANDERS 3:00 PM FINAL OTT(2)-NYI (3) SO
TUE MAR 5, 2013 CANADIENS ISLANDERS 7:00 PM FINAL MTL (3) - NYI (6)
THU MAR 7, 2013 RANGERS ISLANDERS 7:00 PM FINAL NYR (2) - NYI (1) OT
SAT MAR 9, 2013 CAPITALS ISLANDERS 1:00 PM FINAL WSH (2) - NYI (5)
SUN MAR 10, 2013 ISLANDERS PENGUINS 7:00 PM FINAL NYI (1) - PIT (6)
THU MAR 14, 2013 ISLANDERS LIGHTNING 7:30 PM FINAL NYI (2) - TBL (0)
SAT MAR 16, 2013 ISLANDERS PANTHERS 7:30 PM FINAL NYI (4) - FLA (3)

points in 7 of 8, thats pretty consistent no?

- LetsGoIsles

the season is 48 games, most seasons are 82. A nice 8 game stretch is great, but there are also five game losing streaks in there. Past seasons have seen far longer losing streaks. I don't think you can call the Isles a "consistent" team. A consistent team doesn't go on double-digit losing streaks like this team has over the past few years. Again, at the end of this abbreviated season, if they get into the playoffs or just outside, it will show more consistency than years past, a positive development and evidence of improvement.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 19 @ 12:57 PM ET
the season is 48 games, most seasons are 82. A nice 8 game stretch is great, but there are also five game losing streaks in there. Past seasons have seen far longer losing streaks. I don't think you can call the Isles a "consistent" team. A consistent team doesn't go on double-digit losing streaks like this team has over the past few years. Again, at the end of this abbreviated season, if they get into the playoffs or just outside, it will show more consistency than years past, a positive development and evidence of improvement.
- Jethro09



true...but i will not hold this years team accountable for previous teams performance.

and if we are going to compare this team to previous years then i sure as poop can call this team head and shoulders more consistent than those teams...
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Mar 19 @ 12:58 PM ET
So the Ducks Ink Corey Perry to 8 years @ $69 million. Between he and Getzlaf, thats $135 million on two players over 8 years. Roughly $17 million per year on the two of them. WOW.
- keaner17


Funny thing is I thought the lockout was because the owners couldn't afford these crazy contracts

They are not worth 8+ a piece
The owners do this to themselves
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:01 PM ET
Yet he was billed as an incredible goalie coach for years
- Cptmjl

Yes...billed by this organization. The same one that told you AMac was an up and comer, Okposo was a future star and Boyes is a power forward. I've played/coached long enough to see terrible technical flaws in DP and then upon hearing some of Sudsi's advice, it made it apparent to me that the guy was another one of those people kept around because he was well liked, not effective.

I'm very glad he's gone at this point.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
Funny thing is I thought the lockout was because the owners couldn't afford these crazy contracts

They are not worth 8+ a piece
The owners do this to themselves

- Danformo



Keeps the franchise alive and people in the seats. Also makes it easier to attract good players to the team.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
Funny thing is I thought the lockout was because the owners couldn't afford these crazy contracts

They are not worth 8+ a piece
The owners do this to themselves

- Danformo


I really think there should be something built into the CBA that allows players who sign with the team that drafted them to be given a 10-20% discount against the cap. This would make it easier for teams to retain homegrown stars. Salaries like this will only make it more difficult on other teams trying to sign their stars.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Mar 19 @ 1:10 PM ET
Funny thing is I thought the lockout was because the owners couldn't afford these crazy contracts

They are not worth 8+ a piece
The owners do this to themselves

- Danformo


I thought the same thing.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 19 @ 1:15 PM ET
true...but i will not hold this years team accountable for previous teams performance.

and if we are going to compare this team to previous years then i sure as poop can call this team head and shoulders more consistent than those teams...

- LetsGoIsles


Still showing the maturity level with the COOL Avatar, we see..
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
Funny thing is I thought the lockout was because the owners couldn't afford these crazy contracts

They are not worth 8+ a piece
The owners do this to themselves

- Danformo



i think Perry is..Getzlaf no. THis probably means they will move hiller...with fasth there and Gibson on the way. Not sure how they can resign Ryan and Fowler though. Also have to assume Koivu and Selanne are close to retiring... should be interesting to see what they do but good for them keeping their players
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:18 PM ET
I'll sign up for that one.
- Jethro09

I read somewhere Clutterbuck was available...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 19 @ 1:27 PM ET
true...but i will not hold this years team accountable for previous teams performance.

and if we are going to compare this team to previous years then i sure as poop can call this team head and shoulders more consistent than those teams...

- LetsGoIsles

But if last season was considered a "failure" for not making the playoffs by Snows on words what would this year be called by not qualifying in a 48 game season?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 19 @ 1:28 PM ET
Yes...billed by this organization. The same one that told you AMac was an up and comer, Okposo was a future star and Boyes is a power forward. I've played/coached long enough to see terrible technical flaws in DP and then upon hearing some of Sudsi's advice, it made it apparent to me that the guy was another one of those people kept around because he was well liked, not effective.

I'm very glad he's gone at this point.

- keaner17

Seems to be a recurring theme on the island? Not effective but liked...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Still showing the maturity level with the COOL Avatar, we see..
- bixll

He's a cool dude
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 19 @ 1:29 PM ET
Still showing the maturity level with the COOL Avatar, we see..
- bixll

He's a cool dude. Thats why I allow it to stay, it like most of his posts further proves my opinion of him is true.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 19 @ 1:31 PM ET
Keeps the franchise alive and people in the seats. Also makes it easier to attract good players to the team.
- bixll

Signing star players? How absurd! People are more concerned about salaries on here than any other team thread I've visited. Very strange considering the isles have had nothing to worry about since the cap began?
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
I read somewhere Clutterbuck was available...
- kear20

Setoguchi would work also...the Wild are close to the cap so I don't think they want to take in more salary....Setoguchi for Okposo is a wash...salary wieewise
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 19 @ 1:33 PM ET
I read somewhere Clutterbuck was available...
- kear20

I read it three times today alone on this thread!
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Mar 19 @ 1:34 PM ET
He's a cool dude
- Cptmjl


Kinda sad.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
true...but i will not hold this years team accountable for previous teams performance.

and if we are going to compare this team to previous years then i sure as poop can call this team head and shoulders more consistent than those teams...

- LetsGoIsles

well, its been the same core for about four years now. A few new parts here and there, but the same core of guys over the past four years or so haven't been consistent at all. So if you're wondering why people are skeptical as to whether this team can be consistent enough to make the playoffs, its based on the track record of not only the 12-13 team, but correctly so on the track record of the core of the 12-13 team that has been together for a few years now and not gotten the job done.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:37 PM ET
Setoguchi would work also...the Wild are close to the cap so I don't think they want to take in more salary....Setoguchi for Okposo is a wash...salary wieewise
- kear20



I'll take a defenseman instead. We have Nino. We need a large defenseman who can play....they have a couple, but I don't know if they're any good...

PS- the idea of WPG trading Kane is nonsense, unless someone in that organization has lost his g*dd*mn mind.....
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:39 PM ET
Are gay?
- Cptmjl



Why, you lookin for a dance partner?


XxNYIxX
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
I'll take a defenseman instead. We have Nino. We need a large defenseman who can play....they have a couple, but I don't know if they're any good...

PS- the idea of WPG trading Kane is nonsense, unless someone in that organization has lost his g*dd*mn mind.....

- dcb1


I'd hesitate to consider trading Nino until he's had another year or two and we have a better idea of what kind of player he'll be. Okposo's lack of balance, lack of physical play and lack of production for long stretches has been more than enough for me to give up on him. If he was just unlucky I'd hold onto him, but his skating has not improved, his balance is laughable as he goes down multiple times per shift and he's not showing improvement. I'm good to pass on him at this point.

Players can make great strides when they focus on improving different aspects of their game, and Kyle could be great if he'd work on his balance, but because he's shown a fondness for not bothering to do anything, I'm done with him.

XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Mar 19 @ 1:57 PM ET
I'd hesitate to consider trading Nino until he's had another year or two and we have a better idea of what kind of player he'll be. Okposo's lack of balance, lack of physical play and lack of production for long stretches has been more than enough for me to give up on him. If he was just unlucky I'd hold onto him, but his skating has not improved, his balance is laughable as he goes down multiple times per shift and he's not showing improvement. I'm good to pass on him at this point.

Players can make great strides when they focus on improving different aspects of their game, and Kyle could be great if he'd work on his balance, but because he's shown a fondness for not bothering to do anything, I'm done with him.

- Isles_since_6



I like KO & Bailey, I think both are great kids and have a world of talent.... With that said.. if we are going to move anyone to upgrade places that need upgrading (D & Goal) Then I hope these are the first 2 moved. They have had ample time to "get it" they havent & there has been no glimpses of them being able to put "IT" together & keep it together here. Lets hope they get moved & figure it out elsewhere.

XxNYIxX
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