LOL at the kings fan calling RG and CP "scrubs." Bitter, much?

The Ducks now have two "bad" contracts, which really aren't that bad because they are their two best players and those huge salaries were absolutely necessary to get them signed. If they had traded them (in the middle of a playoff race, no less) they wouldn't have gotten anything close to their value. Just look at the Nash trade.

If the Ducks have two bad contracts, the Kings have 4. Doughty gets paid $8M a year? Your second best goalie still has 9 years left on his deal?

And just wait to see what Kopitar's next deal will look like. $10+ easy.
- gtrman09

Context. Read the whole sentence/post. If English is your second language then I apologize. Amusing that you used the word 'bitter'. Do you honestly think ANY hockey fan is jealous of these particular signings? Homerism at its best.

Context. Read the whole sentence/post. If English is your second language then I apologize. Amusing that you used the word 'bitter'. Do you honestly think ANY hockey fan is jealous of these particular signings? Homerism at its best.
- Wodanaz

I think fans of all the teams that were going to offer Perry $9M+ per year (Tor, Ott, Phi, etc.) are certainly jealous of these signings. And I think you're bitter. Why else would you be in this thread talking sh!t?

And how about instead of just dismissing me as a homer, or coming back with an attack on my understanding of the English language, we have an actual conversation.

LOL at the kings fan calling RG and CP "scrubs." Bitter, much?

The Ducks now have two "bad" contracts, which really aren't that bad because they are their two best players and those huge salaries were absolutely necessary to get them signed. If they had traded them (in the middle of a playoff race, no less) they wouldn't have gotten anything close to their value. Just look at the Nash trade.

If the Ducks have two bad contracts, the Kings have 4. Doughty gets paid $8M a year? Your second best goalie still has 9 years left on his deal?

And just wait to see what Kopitar's next deal will look like. $10+ easy.
- gtrman09

Yeah, I'm sure a fan of the defending Stanley Cup champions is bitter...

Yeah, I'm sure a fan of the defending Stanley Cup champions is bitter...
- laughs2907

I agree. It's ridiculous. And it's ridiculous that he's in here phishing. The Kings are the champs, why would he care about anything the Ducks are doing?

That is a lot of dough but those are two damn good players.

That is a lot of dough but those are two damn good players.
- Bo

I don't understand why we went 3 months w/o hockey. These contracts are horrible.

Those 3 combined with Perry and Kovi probably comprise the top 5 worst in the league. Ryan Getzlaf's isn't quite as bad and IMO he's a better player, but I'd Weber, Suter, or Parise over Perry any day of the week.
- SteveTambellini

Weber, probably....But Suter and Parise over Perry??? Not a chance!!!

LOL at the kings fan calling RG and CP "scrubs." Bitter, much?

The Ducks now have two "bad" contracts, which really aren't that bad because they are their two best players and those huge salaries were absolutely necessary to get them signed. If they had traded them (in the middle of a playoff race, no less) they wouldn't have gotten anything close to their value. Just look at the Nash trade.

If the Ducks have two bad contracts, the Kings have 4. Doughty gets paid $8M a year? Your second best goalie still has 9 years left on his deal?

And just wait to see what Kopitar's next deal will look like. $10+ easy.
- gtrman09

Any GM in the league would give these two these contracts if they had the chance to sign them

Great signing, 3 of your core players signed, plus still have cap space next year...

Only Selanne, Koivu, Lydman are FA at years end that make significant money,
and 2 can be replaced easily, Selanne hard 2 replace....
but good job by your GM, needed to keep your guys!!!!!

Any GM in the league would give these two these contracts if they had the chance to sign them
- forbetterorWORSE

Yep. You have to be willing to shell out that kinda dough if you want to keep/sign elite players. All these armchair GMs talk about how bad these contracts are, but as a fan I'd rather watch Perry and Getzlaf play for the Ducks for the next 8 years than watch them play for some other team and feel good about the Ducks cap space. You have to spend money to be competitive.

And they way that the cap has gone up every single year, even if it levels off or goes down slightly next season, in a few years these won't be considered bad. Just wait and see what players like Kopitar and Malkin and even Bobby Ryan get when their current contracts are up. These won't be "bad" contracts for long.

Are the cap hits for Getzlaf and Perry a tad higher than the Ducks would have liked, certainly. But they would be chasing their tail to replace that kind of talent if management didnt step up to the plate to pay them.

Good for the Ducks as they have now avoided an impossible situation come trade deadline. They can now make a serious run for a championship this year and figure out the rest in the offseason.

Are the cap hits for Getzlaf and Perry a tad higher than the Ducks would have liked, certainly. But they would be chasing their tail to replace that kind of talent if management didnt step up to the plate to pay them.

Good for the Ducks as they have now avoided an impossible situation come trade deadline. They can now make a serious run for a championship this year and figure out the rest in the offseason.
- Gunner Staal

Sanity.

Both signings are really good given the context. Ducks had to deal under a new CBA that was signed only a couple of months ago.

They were at risk that both players could have walked and they would have got nothing in return. So, of their 3 stars, they could have ended with only Bobby Ryan.

Now they know they will have Getslaf and Perry plus Ryan (or whatever the return they get if they trade Ryan). Appears to be very good asset management by the Ducks.

Are the cap hits for Getzlaf and Perry a tad higher than the Ducks would have liked, certainly. But they would be chasing their tail to replace that kind of talent if management didnt step up to the plate to pay them.

Good for the Ducks as they have now avoided an impossible situation come trade deadline. They can now make a serious run for a championship this year and figure out the rest in the offseason.
- Gunner Staal

I love you. And I want Chris Kunitz back.

Both signings are really good given the context. Ducks had to deal under a new CBA that was signed only a couple of months ago.

They were at risk that both players could have walked and they would have got nothing in return. So, of there 3 stars, they could have ended with only Bobby Ryan.
Now they know they will have Getslaf and Perry plus Ryan (or whatever the return they get if they trade Ryan). Appears to be very good asset management by the Ducks.
- spatso

And isnt that the key for any GM in the cap era?

Murray has done well. He has maintained a high quality product for this season and has bought himself time to figure out the long term. Very nicely done. I would be curious to know how much input Burke had in this process for Anaheim.

I love you. And I want Chris Kunitz back.
- gtrman09

I still can't believe Ryan Whitney was able to pry Kunitz out of So Cal. One of the most overrated d man in some time.

The emergence of Fasth has the potential to buy more time for Bobby Ryan as it makes Hiller expendable moving forward. That would be a nice 4.5M coming off the books. I always thought Hiller was amongst the best but Vertigo really sent his career in a different direction sadly.

I still can't believe Ryan Whitney was able to pry Kunitz out of So Cal. One of the most overrated d man in some time.
- Gunner Staal

The emergence of Fasth has the potential to buy more time for Bobby Ryan as it makes Hiller expendable moving forward. That would be a nice 4.5M coming off the books. I always thought Hiller was amongst the best but Vertigo really sent his career in a different direction sadly.
- Gunner Staal

Whitney was absolutely awful for us. We were able to trade him for Lubo Visnovsky, who had one outstanding year for us, but then we traded him to NYI for a 2nd rounder. Safe to say I'd rather still have Kunitz than that 2nd rounder. Kuny was one of my favorite Ducks ever.

Hiller has been nails the last little while. I think they're gonna keep both goalies for at least the rest of this season.

Whitney was absolutely awful for us. We were able to trade him for Lubo Visnovsky, who had one outstanding year for us, but then we traded him to NYI for a 2nd rounder. Safe to say I'd rather still have Kunitz than that 2nd rounder. Kuny was one of my favorite Ducks ever.

Hiller has been nails the last little while. I think they're gonna keep both goalies for at least the rest of this season.
- gtrman09

There is no doubt that Hiller will remain on the roster this season. The offseason will be when any potential salary is cut from the Ducks roster.

I still don't know why the Ducks were so eager to get rid of Visnovsky.

There is no doubt that Hiller will remain on the roster this season. The offseason will be when any potential salary is cut from the Ducks roster.

I still don't know why the Ducks were so eager to get rid of Visnovsky.
- Gunner Staal

Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe they thought he was going to the KHL for good and they wanted to get something for him. Or maybe they just really wanted Sheldon Souray and knew that having Souray, Fowler and Lubo is just too many offensive d-men for one NHL roster.

Happy the Ducks were able to lock up a very good player. In my opinion, I don't think him or Getzlaf are worth more than 7-7.5 per. They got very lucrative deals along with NMC. This reminds me a lot of Rick Nash's extension with CBJ. What's going to happen in a year or two when the Ducks can't ice a competitive team due to cap restraints and one of Perry or Getzlaf want out?
- Zoolander

You mean next year, when they now have to fill 8 roster spots with only 10 million remaining to spend under the cap? (not to mention this has never been a cap spending team)

And isnt that the key for any GM in the cap era?

Murray has done well. He has maintained a high quality product for this season and has bought himself time to figure out the long term. Very nicely done. I would be curious to know how much input Burke had in this process for Anaheim.
- Gunner Staal

Remember the new CBA only allowed the Ducks to offer the 8 year deal. Other teams would be limited to 7 years if they had become UFAs.

A team led by two 35 year olds making $8m each is not likely going to be too competitive. And, the budgetary stress might result in the loss of the next generation of top players due to the contract wars. So, regardless of what has been said, I would not discount the possibility that Murray has already discussed and will further explore the possibility of moving Perry.

Should they move Perry in the off season I will be even more impressed. Regardless how you measure the matter Murray has done a superb job in protecting his assets.

Remember the new CBA only allowed the Ducks to offer the 8 year deal. Other teams would be limited to 7 years if they had become UFAs.

A team led by two 35 year olds making $8m each is not likely going to be too competitive. And, the budgetary stress might result in the loss of the next generation of top players due to the contract wars. So, regardless of what has been said, I would not discount the possibility that Murray has already discussed and will further explore the possibility of moving Perry.

Should they move Perry in the off season I will be even more impressed. Regardless how you measure the matter Murray has done a superb job in protecting his assets.
- spatso

He has bought himself time and guaranteed a quality return if he ever has to move Perry. Agreed, job well done.

And most importantly the Ducks are free to go full steam ahead and make a run at their 2nd Cup this year without worrying about Perry's status. That is huge and can't be stated enough.

lockout... meet the reason you were pointless


i mean both fantastic players but come on now

I dont think that keeping Ryan should be the question here - moreso, why are they keeping four defensemen at $3-4M .....

Koivu is expendable, or will come cheaper than his current contract - less than $2M.

I wouldn't consider Selanne expendable, but it may take a bit more than $2M to retain him.

Again, its Souray at $3.6M, Beauchemin at $3.5M, Allen at $3.5M and Fowler at $4.0M. that is two too many at that salary.

They need to trade two of them to contenders for prospect defensemen in return.