For all the "this contract will have a ripple effect on everyone else" talk, its never really impacted the Penguins trying to resign Crosby or Malkin. Perry's deal has no bearing on Malkins.
- Deadstar

I'd agree. Ovechkin took like 10 mil per and Crosby and Geno were happy to make the same amount of 8.7. I think money is important to both of them and they realize they will have enough to last a life time but winning is right there with money. They will take a little less if it helps the team compete for a cup every year. Geno and Sid are very happy to be on the same team. There aren't too many around that understand and think the game on the level that they do so I'm sure it's nice to have that around.

I'd agree. Ovechkin took like 10 mil per and Crosby and Geno were happy to make the same amount of 8.7. I think money is important to both of them and they realize they will have enough to last a life time but winning is right there with money. They will take a little less if it helps the team compete for a cup every year. Geno and Sid are very happy to be on the same team. There aren't too many around that understand and think the game on the level that they do so I'm sure it's nice to have that around.
- dbell646

This

Ovechkin took like 10 mil per and Crosby and Geno were happy to make the same amount of 8.7.
- dbell646

Excellent point.

And even so Perry, Malkin, and this year Crosby are last 3 MVPs. Makes sense they all make the same amount (or near it as the case is) and will be.

Leafs fans are funny. Just posted a trade proposal for fun.

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Kessel/Gardiner for Letang and a bag of pucks?
- Orpik44


hes injured more than tim connollolololy no thanks!

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Why is despres not playing with nisk on 2nd D line with letang out?!?!?
- nh4442

Starting to believe he is trade bait, which is a major mistake. Bylsma can't come out in the media and say he is pleased with Despres' play, but yet, healthy scratch him in lieu of lesser talents. Something doesn't pass the smell test.

Starting to believe he is trade bait, which is a major mistake. Bylsma can't come out in the media and say he is pleased with Despres' play, but yet, healthy scratch him in lieu of lesser talents. Something doesn't pass the smell test.
- Oneonta Penguin

I hope not but you never know

I hope not but you never know
- nh4442

Same here. Crying shame if he's bait, since he's essentially ready. Morrow has a bit to go and Harrington(really excited for him) might be a ways off too. Maatta and Pouliot aren't even in the discussion yet.

Starting to believe he is trade bait, which is a major mistake. Bylsma can't come out in the media and say he is pleased with Despres' play, but yet, healthy scratch him in lieu of lesser talents. Something doesn't pass the smell test.
- Oneonta Penguin

I've had this thought cross my mind, but the fact that it continues even into Letang's injury seems suspicious.

Maybe the choice to scratch him against "physical" teams has been more about avoiding the teams most capable of injuring our trade bait than his play.

I think Geno is going to go tonight and i think thats a mistake. Ovie always looks to hit Geno.

I think Geno is going to go tonight and i think thats a mistake. Ovie always looks to hit Geno.
- nbartley9

Pittsburgh Penguins ‏@penguins
#Pens Evgeni Malkin: "I feel good, practicing with team for first time. It's just the next step." On playing Friday "I hope."

Pittsburgh Penguins ‏@penguins
#Pens Evgeni Malkin: "I feel good, practicing with team for first time. It's just the next step." On playing Friday "I hope."
- Deadstar

So your saying theres a chance...

For all the "this contract will have a ripple effect on everyone else" talk, its never really impacted the Penguins trying to resign Crosby or Malkin. Perry's deal has no bearing on Malkins.
- Deadstar

What are you talking about? First off, there second contracts immediately made them two of the top paid players in the league. I'm not saying it wasn't deserved, but it (while part of the new NHL form) was pretty new for guys to shoot from entry level deals to the top right away. Crosby was in the league first, his deal came up first, they decided to structure a deal that had a bit of length, but not some DiPietro deal, and settled on his number for his cap hit. Malkin came in following him, decided to follow suit on his second contract.

Mind you even doing so he was still one of the highest paid players in the league period, regardless of his age.

Crosby's third contract came at a time when he was coming off of a very serious injury and when front loading contracts and extending them out could be done.

You act like Pittsburgh is oblivious and some outlier to the rest of the entire business and world. It's not. Without looking it up, if memory serves correctly guys like Ovechkin signed AFTER Crosby's second contract. And at that time he was neck and neck with him and signed for more years (I believe 13 versus 5) so it was not illogical for him to make more considering he was giving up UFA years. As it stands, I'm fairly certain Crosby is top 3 or at worst top 5 right now in full value for his third contract (I believe only Weber and Ovechkin's are higher), and I'm fairly certain factoring in his second and third contract together he's arguably the highest paid player (granted it's tough to make a complete comparison since Ovechkin's contract length doesn't match up completely nor does Weber's).

If anything Crosby, Ovechkin, Edmonton with the Vanek offer sheet, Holland with the Red Wings signings etc sent ripples through back after the 2005 lockout and everyone followed suit. If you really don't think this is the start of ripple effects of similar deals/structures for top guys you are delusional.

Even a Pens fan in here already stated that Shero acknowledged if they re-sign Malkin his cap hit will definitely be higher than Crosby. You can't just look at those old deals anymore. They all had tacked on years that the Wings made popular. The players didn't care, why would they? Add 3-5 years of low salaries when you are going to be mid-30's or even older and sign for $100 million, or sign for 6-7 years and for only 60 million? Let me tell you, it's highly unlikely many of them (if any) were going to make up that additional 40 million from the ages of 34-40. Not to mention NHL contracts are guaranteed, so you do not have to worry about injury once you sign.

These deals will have a ripple effect. They always do. No team or player are exempt when things like this happen in it's industry. It's in the NHL, it's not comparing NFL contracts to NHL contracts.

Crosby and Malkin are both better than ovechkin, yet both have signed deals now after Ovechkins at less money than him. Ripple effects what?

Crosby and Malkin are both better than ovechkin, yet both have signed deals now after Ovechkins at less money than him. Ripple effects what?
- Deadstar

Malkin signed one 5 year contract.

Crosby total haul is now 147.9 over 17 years.

Ovechkin's total contract value is less. And how does that have any effect when talking ripple effects. We're talking about this CBA not the last CBA. I already outlined what caused ripple effects in the last CBA.

Crosby's last (third) contract followed the ripple effect of what Holland and the Wings started (and Hawks, and Flyers, and Devils, insert any idiotically long term contract with tacked on years).

I swear I wonder if some of you have the ability to process actual information.