Oh, Lord.

Really?

Unless we are talking Pesos, I'm not on board.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think the team should keep him. Its high for him, but im not sure theres anyone to step in.

Maybe next year Kadri can take his spot on the first and Colborne could take his spot for cheap on the 3rd. I could see that happening.

Yeah, you've gone too far there.
- Atomic Wedgie

ok np il bring up the stats

clueless.com
- big_dion

Anymore horrible point you want to bring up? You never did provide a % on the defensive zone face-off. Oh that's right because you got it from a Tweet, and not you actually looking it up. If BehindTheNet was working for me right now, i'd already have it up but it's going slow as hell.


Here's the thing, I don't HATE Grabovski, is he close to a #1? Hell no. Is he being over-paid? Hell yes.

Yet you're alright with Grabo @ 5.25? Come on. I'd take Bozak at 3.5 over Grabo at 5.25 any day of the week.
- blahman20

But that wasn't the choice. Each decision was made at a certain point in time.

At the time of Grabbo's pending UFA status, the Leafs were desperate at centre.

Now with Blowzak's pending UFA status, he cupboard is looking better. Heck, my Marlies' watching friend says it looks like Colborne could graduate this year.

I wouldn't give Bozak a dime over $3 million.

In my humble opinion, Komi is bought out this summer, and the second buyout will wait until the summer of 2014. The leading candidates for that one will be Grabbo and Liles. But the Leafs will wait and evaluate, based upon both the play of those guys and the ability of the team to replace them.

Leaf Nation: The arguing that unites divides us all

Exactly, what's his %?
- blahman20

here is the link

http://www.behindthenet.c...7+58+59+60+61+62+64+65+66

Leaf Nation: The arguing that unites divides us all
- LeafMan

Did you see what Big Dion told all Leafs haters to do?

I'm not sure that's an insult...

Anymore horrible point you want to bring up? You never did provide a % on the defensive zone face-off. Oh that's right because you got it from a Tweet, and not you actually looking it up. If BehindTheNet was working for me right now, i'd already have it up but it's going slow as hell.


Here's the thing, I don't HATE Grabovski, is he close to a #1? Hell no. Is he being over-paid? Hell yes.
- blahman20

last year grabovski had 51 points at the end of the year which put him tied for 30th in centers in the league with RNH. (thats right with the #1 C numbers like i said...) he had 58 points the year before that, which was good for 22nd most points by a center. thats right with the #1 center points like i said..

you done yet?

or you want me to continue?

the last 3 years he surely has. take a look at the numbers.
- big_dion

you're wasting your breath man

people only see what they want to see

its a good thing their own bosses dont hold them that accountable.. a couple weak months and they get canned.

here is the link

http://www.behindthenet.c...7+58+59+60+61+62+64+65+66
- senstroll

Kulemin has 97 defensive face-off wins? That has to be a mistake. Look at Paul Stastny up there, damn we should trade for him too! He's the next Patrice Bergeron!@

Wow, even me laughing irritates you! Doesn't take much.


You have to insult people if they dislike Grabovski. It's quite sad.
- jbold

not at all, grabovski hasnt played up to his standards this year and il be the first to admit it.

part of it is his linemates, part of it is his ice time, part of it is who he's vs every night.

there are more factors in someones overall performance and output than just simply...oh hes making 5.5 he sucks trade him.

thats what the narrow minded think, and you are just that, a glorified example.

last year grabovski had 51 points at the end of the year which put him tied for 30th in centers in the league with RNH. (thats right with the #1 C numbers like i said...) he had 58 points the year before that, which was good for 22nd most points by a center. thats right with the #1 center points like i said..

you done yet?

or you want me to continue?
- big_dion

So you're saying, Grabovski would be a #1 center on bottom 14 teams that miss the playoffs?

last year grabovski had 51 points at the end of the year which put him tied for 30th in centers in the league with RNH. (thats right with the #1 C numbers like i said...) he had 58 points the year before that, which was good for 22nd most points by a center. thats right with the #1 center points like i said..

you done yet?

or you want me to continue?
- big_dion

lollll So he's barely in the top 30 for points compared to other "top line centres" and that's good? Give me a break.

So you're saying, Grabovski would be a #1 center on bottom 14 teams that miss the playoffs?
- Pecafan Fan

Leaf Nation: The arguing that unites divides us all
- LeafMan

Well said.

Kulemin has 97 defensive face-off wins? That has to be a mistake. Look at Paul Stastny up there, damn we should trade for him too! He's the next Patrice Bergeron!@
- blahman20

its because people get kicked out of the faceoff circle so much, youd notice that if you actually had any hockey knowledge and watched the game.

thats a lot to ask though!

lollll So he's barely in the top 30 for points compared to other "top line centres" and that's good? Give me a break.
- blahman20

hes a #2 center - bozak is the #1 playing with kessel and lupul

or did you not put 2 and 2 together here?

my god people are (frank)ing stupid lol

hes a #2 center - bozak is the #1 playing with kessel and lupul

or did you not put 2 and 2 together here?

my god people are (frank)ing stupid lol
- big_dion

Boy u sure do like insulting people...How is it that u keep getting away with it??


anyone who doesn't agree with u is stupid....Nice..

So you're saying, Grabovski would be a #1 center on bottom 14 teams that miss the playoffs?
- Pecafan Fan

lol i knew youd chime in eventually

and at least your just here to poke, but all im saying here is that grabo as a 2nd line center with kulemin and mcarthur put up similar points to #1 Centers in the last 2 seasons, and then this year hes in a d role and his points are less than last couple years and its , trade trade trade, dump him!

i swear, leaf fans, so (frank)ing dumb.

So because Graboski has gotten a bit lucky off a small sample size of defensive zone face-offs that automatically means he's turning into some kind of shut-down player.

Well said.
- bixll

You almost pulled off the wins in hockey, eh? How goes the guitar playing?

Boy u sure do like insulting people...How is it that u keep getting away with it??


anyone who doesn't agree with u is stupid....Nice..
- Fruitcakenipple

i said people, im not bashing anyone in particular.

big dif.

its because people get kicked out of the faceoff circle so much, youd notice that if you actually had any hockey knowledge and watched the game.

thats a lot to ask though!
- big_dion

Are you 12? Thanks for clearing up WHY Kulemin would be taking playoffs, because I would have never figured that out on my own. Thanks man.

I still don't think Kulemin has taken that many FO's.

lollll So he's barely in the top 30 for points compared to other "top line centres" and that's good? Give me a break.
- blahman20

you are constantly criticizing others opinions without offering anything tangible

you may want to re-think your approach

Boy u sure do like insulting people...How is it that u keep getting away with it??


anyone who doesn't agree with u is stupid....Nice..
- Fruitcakenipple

Pretty much. We sure are stupid because we don't think Grabo is a 1st line center on most teams..