With the brilliant mind that Feaster possesses should he not be able to come up with something to rid himself of arguably (one of) the most overrated Dmen in the league?

This guy is durable, yes. But he's never even come close to being what people thought he would.

Calgary needs to start with Jbo and move about 3-4 players...the problem is that so do most teams in the league.

Take a look around and see how many teams are over the cap for next year. Even with the buy outs some teams will be in serious trouble...

So finding a taker for 6.6 million next year isn't going to be anywhere near easy. I just don't see it.

BTW - best ad ever on this site - filipinocupid.com - LOL! You've satisfied a huge part of your audience there ek!! ( I know it's not him but it's still funny to me)...
- Canadian kid

Jaybo>any d-men on the Leafs

Hahahaha, thanks...
To be fair though, I can just as crazy as most on this site, ESP w my trade proposals...

My latest I've been ripped for...
Miller, Vanek, Pominville...
To Colorado for
Varlamov, O'reilly, Landeskog

Miller, clear upgrade in goal
If u have to pay someone 6.5m next year, at least Vanek is a proven 35+ goal scorer
Pominville & Landeskog are prob a wash
Colorado gives up youth with good potential, for solid vets that get them into the playoffs now
- jdfitz77

Landy and Pommer are most def not a wash. Pommer will have some value should the Sabres do a rebuild. But you couldnt get Landy for Pommer.

If the Flames ate salary I'd be all for the Flyers making a play for JBo

Feaster made his bed but so did other GMs. He can take a bad contact back to fill a gap for a year and then prospects. Someone a team was planning to buyout but still has talent. For example Horcoff (but not actually horcoff). He has a big contract for his position but would fill a good 3rd line center role somewhere. Horcoff is nothing if Edmonton plans on buying him out so that off sets the cap hit.

Again I am not suggesting the two alberta teams trade but there are players like him around the league. Calgary needs depth and they can take a higher paid guy that they normally wouldn't pay that much for to off set the cap hit so the other team gets to dump salary. Both teams save face, the players get to keep some pride, the trading partner maybe gets to save a buyout if they want to buyout more than 2 and the trade gets done.

because the point totals aren't enticing?
- muffin_man

They are but the $7+ mil cap hit next year is not enticing to most teams.

Landy and Pommer are most def not a wash. Pommer will have some value should the Sabres do a rebuild. But you couldnt get Landy for Pommer.
- poisondhearts37

Not straight up,
But with the upgrade of Miller & Vanek...
MAYBE

Me saying they were a wash was about each of their production at this time, not taking into account that Landeskog should get better & Pominville will start to decline in a few years

Feaster made his bed but so did other GMs. He can take a bad contact back to fill a gap for a year and then prospects. Someone a team was planning to buyout but still has talent. For example Horcoff (but not actually horcoff). He has a big contract for his position but would fill a good 3rd line center role somewhere. Horcoff is nothing if Edmonton plans on buying him out so that off sets the cap hit.

Again I am not suggesting the two alberta teams trade but there are players like him around the league. Calgary needs depth and they can take a higher paid guy that they normally wouldn't pay that much for to off set the cap hit so the other team gets to dump salary. Both teams save face, the players get to keep some pride, the trading partner maybe gets to save a buyout if they want to buyout more than 2 and the trade gets done.
- bsteinley

Problem with your suggestion is that JBO is still a top pairing D-man. Why would they trade an over priced 1st pairing d-man for an over priced 3rd line center? They might as well keep JBo if thats the case.

Is Stafford an untouchable?

Anyway, if I'm Calgary I'm not really that concerned about what the salaries look like as long as I'm able to load up on some prospects.

Problem with your suggestion is that JBO is still a top pairing D-man. Why would they trade an over priced 1st pairing d-man for an over priced 3rd line center? They might as well keep JBo if thats the case.
- nigelwright275

No the the 3rd line center in this example is nothing with the trade, he is just the salary dump. The real trade would be the second person they got. For example and this is JUST AN EXAMPLE

Rumor is Philly wants a dman so they go for Jbo
They offer Meszaros as a salary dump since he is 4 mil for 2 years and worth 3ish so that shave 2-3 million off the price of jbos contract in terms of philis eyes

Calgary gets a depth dman at a higher price than they would pay for him but they save that on Jbo

Then the real trade is could be a first round pick and a conditional second round if they make past the second round of the playoffs.

So the salary is offset on the dump of meszaros but the real trade is Jbo for picks. Now this is just the first team on the cap hit list, I am not saying this is the ideal trade. Just an example.

No way the way Bouwmeester is playing he is worth his cap hit. The Flames don't need to trade him. If another team is able to increase their side of the trade in exchange for the Flames eating salary then they would. Other wise there is no point.

With the brilliant mind that Feaster possesses should he not be able to come up with something to rid himself of arguably (one of) the most overrated Dmen in the league?

This guy is durable, yes. But he's never even come close to being what people thought he would.

Calgary needs to start with Jbo and move about 3-4 players...the problem is that so do most teams in the league.

Take a look around and see how many teams are over the cap for next year. Even with the buy outs some teams will be in serious trouble...

So finding a taker for 6.6 million next year isn't going to be anywhere near easy. I just don't see it.

BTW - best ad ever on this site - filipinocupid.com - LOL! You've satisfied a huge part of your audience there ek!! ( I know it's not him but it's still funny to me)...
- Canadian kid

You're not talking about Phaneuf, right?

Also:

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No way the way Bouwmeester is playing he is worth his cap hit. The Flames don't need to trade him. If another team is able to increase their side of the trade in exchange for the Flames eating salary then they would. Other wise there is no point.
- flamminghead

jbo is good. The problem is that you have no goalie and no forwards.

You're not talking about Phaneuf, right?

Also:

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- Beatle_john

To be fair, he did say "best ad ever."

Hahahaha, thanks...
To be fair though, I can just as crazy as most on this site, ESP w my trade proposals...

My latest I've been ripped for...
Miller, Vanek, Pominville...
To Colorado for
Varlamov, O'reilly, Landeskog

Miller, clear upgrade in goal
If u have to pay someone 6.5m next year, at least Vanek is a proven 35+ goal scorer
Pominville & Landeskog are prob a wash
Colorado gives up youth with good potential, for solid vets that get them into the playoffs now
- jdfitz77

ahahahahah no

If another team wants him, they can pay him.
Better yet, the flames should just keep him and extend at a more reasonable number next year.

Now that he is playing for a coach that knows how to use him, why give up on him when is playing well? And don't tell me to trade him "because" he is playing well, typical pessimistic flames fan. He is only 29, so he doesn't belong in the same conversation with Iggy and Kipper (aging assets). Hockey people recognize his worth, it's only fans and hockey writers (fans with a pen) that can't let go of the "over-rated" tag stapled to his back by the Sutters' past systems.

Is Stafford an untouchable?
- TheNugeIsHuge

Not at all, we'd def trade him in the right deal...
And there's rumbling that he'd actually welcome a trade
He's had trouble finding the net this year, but he's actually playing ok, still involved & getting plenty of shots...
Just scored twice today, the puck will start going in more for him
He's a 20+ goal scorer every year
On a good team, prob gets 25-30 each year...
But he does score in bunches n them disappears for stretches (on the score sheet, still provides decent enough play when he's not scoring to be helpful)

He's become a whipping boy here in Buffalo though
Some of it deserved, some over the top

If another team wants him, they can pay him.
Better yet, the flames should just keep him and extend at a more reasonable number next year.

Now that he is playing for a coach that knows how to use him, why give up on him when is playing well? And don't tell me to trade him "because" he is playing well, typical pessimistic flames fan. He is only 29, so he doesn't belong in the same conversation with Iggy and Kipper (aging assets). Hockey people recognize his worth, it's only fans and hockey writers (fans with a pen) that can't let go of the "over-rated" tag stapled to his back by the Sutters' past systems.
- Beargrass

Calgary has to decide what it wants to do. Do they want to add cheap depth or rebuild. In which case, I would keep him. Or are they going to keep going out and try to buy talent, which makes his salary too much to hold onto.

If another team wants him, they can pay him.
Better yet, the flames should just keep him and extend at a more reasonable number next year.

Now that he is playing for a coach that knows how to use him, why give up on him when is playing well? And don't tell me to trade him "because" he is playing well, typical pessimistic flames fan. He is only 29, so he doesn't belong in the same conversation with Iggy and Kipper (aging assets). Hockey people recognize his worth, it's only fans and hockey writers (fans with a pen) that can't let go of the "over-rated" tag stapled to his back by the Sutters' past systems.
- Beargrass

Unfort during a rebuild you shell out most of your most sellable assets keeping the youth behind. That is what shipping Iggy, Kipper and Jbo is doing, not holding on to a middle aged (yes 29 is middle aged in the NHL) player from an old system.

It makes sense that some teams want Calgary to eat some salary.

If a team does not have much cap space they need for Calgary to provide some financial cover. But, you have to assume Calgary will make them pay by asking them to increase their offer of players or picks. If for example, a team really wants J.Bo but they do not have the cap space, it is entirely in Calgary's interest to get them in the bidding to ratchet up the offers of the other teams. The more bidders the better the return.

Calgary has to decide what it wants to do. Do they want to add cheap depth or rebuild. In which case, I would keep him. Or are they going to keep going out and try to buy talent, which makes his salary too much to hold onto.
- bsteinley

What talent is left for them to try and buy? Oh wait I don't want to know the answer.

To Habs: Jbo,
To Calgary: Kaberle, Leblanc, Kristo

ahahahahah no
- S Kaspar Rollins

At this point in their careers, Pominville far out produces him on the stats sheet...
Pominville is very underrated in this league
You'd be shocked at all the guys he outproduced last season
Guys you'd consider superstars...
Just a few examples:
Iginla
E.Stall
Perry
Getzlaf
D.Sedin
Zetterberg
Parise
And many, many more

WTF EK??????JBO has been playing phenomenal this year & I know because I'm at the games. This is the 1st time I could really say, the salary is pretty close to what you are getting on the ice. He only has 1 year left at 6.68mill. So once he becomes a free agent, are you saying teams are not going to give this guy 6.0 mill or more for 3-4 more years. Why should Flames eat salary on this guy??? Now if a team makes a player Feaster covets available, but that team has cap issues & both teams have contract# issues, then to get that huge return on a huge asset on his team, OK eat some salary. So case in point, I want Couturier & Phillys 1st for rebuilding, I would give JBO. + another asset, & then I would eat 1/2 his salary to make sure Philly can absorb the cap next year until they get him resigned. I cant believe Ottawa, Detroit or Montreal would not give us a nice package for JBO, salary & all. The guy is a top 2 dman, how many are available out there. Go see what Phoenix will want for Yandle.

To Habs: Jbo,
To Calgary: Kaberle, Leblanc, Kristo
- bulletbill

Ummmm NO. Kaberle