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rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 5:01 PM ET
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Scott Harrington @GoLondonKnights finished first in two #OHL West Coaches Poll categories including Best Penalty Killer and Best Defensive D

- Deadstar


Sounds good to me. WBS next season.
panthers92
Florida Panthers
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 04.07.2011

Mar 15 @ 5:03 PM ET
He'd be good here but not for Morrow. Maybe for Dumoulin+Conditional1st (if he re-signs)
- Orpik44


No way Calgary does that.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 15 @ 5:05 PM ET
I agree that he hasn't been THAT bad, but he has been under performing. I think he would be much better suited as a second pairing Dman, but realistically, the Pens can't afford to sign Malkin, Letang and a shutdown Dman with Orpik on the roster. If Letang doesn't resign and leaves this offseason (praying he doesn't), it changes everything.
- mw630


I don't see them signing a shutdown guy for the long term...that player will be developed from within amongst their bevy of prospects.
panthers92
Florida Panthers
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 04.07.2011

Mar 15 @ 5:06 PM ET
We are unstoppable already. Why can't you see that? We are the highest scoring team in the league. Goaltending isn't the biggest problem on this team. We need a physical stay at home defenseman. Our collection of blueliners as a whole is questionable at times. We need a physical presence on the third line.

So, its a given that Kunitz and Crosby form chemistry with Iggy immediately? Doesn't work that way. Why screw with chemistry on this part?

I'm beginning to think people outside of Pittsburgh have no clue what the real weaknesses are with this team when they show. It's certainly not our offense. They think we should improve on our strength and outscore people 10-9.

We scored tons of goals last year in the play-offs versus Philly and lost. Iggy wouldn't have helped that one iota.

- Oneonta Penguin


I never said Offense was the weakness. Im just saying if the goaltending sucks then they will need to score extra goals. You can't tell me that Iginla wouldn't be good with crosby. Come on.
Remember the 2010 playoffs vs Montreal? A terrible team with good goaltending beat the Penguins. If they run into a hot goalie, the extra offense always comes in handy.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 15 @ 5:06 PM ET
Hmmm. Rumours out of Edmonton that the Smid contract talks aren't going well. Wouldn't be surprised to see him on the move.
- Morris


He's a name that has been mentioned here. Lets make a deal...
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Mar 15 @ 5:08 PM ET
Pretty sure Grigorenko's UFA is delayed a year so its not a complete, complete waste sending him down now. It was a waste keeping him here
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Mar 15 @ 5:09 PM ET
He's getting traded, the sooner people come to grips with that the easier it will be when it happens.
- canadianpenfan


I see it as 50/50. It becomes pretty straight-forward math.... Either he takes the 8 year deal at an AAV that fits into the Pens cap structure(which will need to include a bit of a discount) so he can continue to play with Sid and Geno.... Or if not Shero shops him aggsively and moves him (likely to Edmonton IMO)
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Mar 15 @ 5:09 PM ET
Iginla's not a fit. I wish these mock trade proposals would die.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
I see it as 50/50. It becomes pretty straight-forward math.... Either he takes the 8 year deal at an AAV that fits into the Pens cap structure(which will need to include a bit of a discount) so he can continue to play with Sid and Geno.... Or if not Shero shops him aggsively and moves him (likely to Edmonton IMO)
- PENS FAN in CANADA



That's why it's not 50/50. He will be offered a deal no doubt, but he won't accept what he's offered.

I'm not going to argue it, just how I feel.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:15 PM ET
Iginla's not a fit. I wish these mock trade proposals would die.
- Deadstar



You and me both.
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Mar 15 @ 5:21 PM ET
That's why it's not 50/50. He will be offered a deal no doubt, but he won't accept what he's offered.

I'm not going to argue it, just how I feel.

- canadianpenfan


Not arguing either... I just think there is a chance he takes the deal. What would reduce the odds heavily is if the Pens win another cup this year.
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Mar 15 @ 5:22 PM ET
I find it interesting that almost every post that talks about our elite D prospects pretty much fail to include Harrington.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
I find it interesting that almost every post that talks about our elite D prospects pretty much fail to include Harrington.
- PENS FAN in CANADA



Mind boggling.

I said quite some time ago he was right at the top of my list because he exactly what this team lacks. He's just not a point producer and he's not flashy so people forget about him.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:26 PM ET
If Crosby can make Kunitz a superstar, what do you think he will do with Iginla??...goaltending is the problem on this team, so they can never score enough goals. Iginla crosby, kunitz, neal, malkin, sutter, dupuis.....Sounds like an unstoppable lineup to me.
- panthers92


Goaltending is a problem? Did you not see fleury last night or against Boston? Put solid D in front of him and watch his confidence soar. Look at the 09 cup run
panthers92
Florida Panthers
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 04.07.2011

Mar 15 @ 5:29 PM ET
Goaltending is a problem? Did you not see fleury last night or against Boston? Put solid D in front of him and watch his confidence soar. Look at the 09 cup run
- drummer829


Fleury sucks man...he can't handle the heat. If he was half as good as everyone thought he would be, the Pens would probably have another cup. He benefits from playing on a good team. Last year's playoffs he could not stop a beach ball...
Don't become like a Habs or Maple leafs fan that thinks their players are good when they're really not.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
Pretty sure Grigorenko's UFA is delayed a year so its not a complete, complete waste sending him down now. It was a waste keeping him here
- Deadstar



It wasn't even a waste keeping him up, it was a waste keeping him up with plans to play him along John Scott and Jochan Hecht or whoever the hell else they stuck him with. Admittedly Buffalo is a ways down on my "hockey teams i like to watch" list but everytime i've seen him they have him with scrubs.
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Mar 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
Mind boggling.

I said quite some time ago he was right at the top of my list because he exactly what this team lacks. He's just not a point producer and he's not flashy so people forget about him.

- canadianpenfan


Agreed. With that, I feel that he is the one D prospect that Shero is least likely to move. If we keep Letang and Despres.... Then one of Pouliott or Morrow are gone at some point for the equivalent type prospect on the wing... Kunitz and Dupuis only have so much left.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:30 PM ET
So lets say Letang decides to test FA. Does Shero do another draft day trade to get the most out of him, or does he hang onto him for another cup run.
panthers92
Florida Panthers
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 04.07.2011

Mar 15 @ 5:32 PM ET
I find it interesting that almost every post that talks about our elite D prospects pretty much fail to include Harrington.
- PENS FAN in CANADA


I did forget to mention Harrington but that just further proves my point that the Pens have expendable D prospects.
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Mar 15 @ 5:33 PM ET
Fleury sucks man...he can't handle the heat. If he was half as good as everyone thought he would be, the Pens would probably have another cup. He benefits from playing on a good team. Last year's playoffs he could not stop a beach ball...
Don't become like a Habs or Maple leafs fan that thinks their players are good when they're really not.

- panthers92


You dont win a cup against the Wings if you cant handle the heat...especially being down 3-2 in the series. People need to realize that a lot has to do with the team D that is played in front of Fleury... And this applies to every goalie in the NHL. I am quite comfortable with him as our tender.... And although I live near Toronto.... I certainly do not think like the "typical" Leaf fan :-)
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:33 PM ET
Agreed. With that, I feel that he is the one D prospect that Shero is least likely to move. If we keep Letang and Despres.... Then one of Pouliott or Morrow are gone at some point for the equivalent type prospect on the wing... Kunitz and Dupuis only have so much left.
- PENS FAN in CANADA


I can see us legitimately having 3 or 4 ELC's on our blue line within 2-3 years and the best part is the defense will be good. Give Shero that kind of cap flexibility and he'll give you a magic show.




Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Mar 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
I find it interesting that almost every post that talks about our elite D prospects pretty much fail to include Harrington.
- PENS FAN in CANADA


I never forget about him. He's one of the untradeables for me. I'd trade Pouliot or Maatta before him. He's our future stay at home D for years to come
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Mar 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
So lets say Letang decides to test FA. Does Shero do another draft day trade to get the most out of him, or does he hang onto him for another cup run.
- drummer829



Offseason before/at the draft would be my guess.
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Mar 15 @ 5:34 PM ET
I did forget to mention Harrington but that just further proves my point that the Pens have expendable D prospects.
- panthers92


No worries... Was not referring to you specifically. In fact I was actually referring to the number of Pens fans that leave him off the list.
panthers92
Florida Panthers
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 04.07.2011

Mar 15 @ 5:36 PM ET
You dont win a cup against the Wings if you cant handle the heat...especially being down 3-2 in the series. People need to realize that a lot has to do with the team D that is played in front of Fleury... And this applies to every goalie in the NHL. I am quite comfortable with him as our tender.... And although I live near Toronto.... I certainly do not think like the "typical" Leaf fan :-)
- PENS FAN in CANADA


During that cup run he had Orpik, Gill and Scuderi blocking shots in front and keeping shots to the outside. He played solid, but not spectacular. The D in front of him that year bailed him out.
I don't understand why you keep defending him. He is very inconsistent and is the reason the Pens have been kicked out of the post-season ever since 2009.
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