David Steckel to Anaheim Ducks. Toronto receives Ryan Lasch and a 7th.
- Orpik44

Not a fan. Infamy of Sid's injury.

How could I forget Messier?

Ovechkin just hit the 700 point plateau last night (before Malkin and Crosby).

Here is the PPG comparison with top players in the league and some of the greatest:

Gretzky - 1.92
Lemieux - 1.88
Crosby - 1.42
Forsberg - 1.25
Malkin - 1.23
Jagr - 1.22
Ovechkin - 1.21
Sakic - 1.19
LaFontaine - 1.17
Yzerman - 1.16
Lindros - 1.14
Bure - 1.11
Messier - 1.07
Selanne - 1.04
Stamkos - 1.04
Thornton - 1.00
Kariya - 1.00
Datsyuk - 0.98
Fedorov - 0.94
Recchi - 0.93
Zetterberg - 0.93
Getzlaf - 0.93
P.Kane - 0.93
St.Louis - 0.92
Hossa - 0.92
Modano - 0.91
Iginla - 0.90
E.Staal - 0.90
B.Richards - 0.90
Roenick - 0.89
Toews - 0.89
Tavares - 0.86
Giroux - 0.86
LeClair - 0.84
H.Sedin - 0.84
D.Sedin - 0.83
Nash - 0.82
Perry - 0.81


4 of the top 6 are Penguins = VERY SPOILED!!
- Orpik44

You also forgot Peter Stastny. 1.29 PPG for his career. Good for fourth on the list.

You also forgot Peter Stastny. 1.29 PPG for his career. Good for fourth on the list.
- cygnus41

It won't be long before you see Dupes on this list!

It won't be long before you see Dupes on this list!
- Oneonta Penguin

Not a fan. Infamy of Sid's injury.
- powerhouse

Me neither. To be honest I thought Hedman's hit was worse. He caught him in the neck.

OEL is closer to Letang than you think.
- Oneonta Penguin

He does have a great offensive upside, but from what I've seen he doesn't have the strong defensive game, hence the reason I think the Yotes took Michalek from us. If a kid who hasn't truly proven himself gets 5.5 mil then Letang gets 6.5 to 7 mil easy. Pietrangelos contract will be the contract to look out for, not OEL's

My question to you guys that are against the Iginla trade is, What would you guys be willing to give up if Iginla actually signed a 3 year deal in Pitt? I think giving up a future 1st and a D prospect isn't a bad idea. There's obviously enough D prospects to fill our future needs given how young Letang an Depres are.

He does have a great offensive upside, but from what I've seen he doesn't have the strong defensive game, hence the reason I think the Yotes took Michalek from us. If a kid who hasn't truly proven himself gets 5.5 mil then Letang gets 6.5 to 7 mil easy. Pietrangelos contract will be the contract to look out for, not OEL's
- drummer829

One player is in his third year in the NHL, while the other is in his sixth. OEL is farther along at this juncture of his career than Letang was three years ago. He has shown improvement in every area on defense every year while upping his offensive output on a team that can't score. I hate to say this, I would would consider trading Letang straight up for him now.

One player is in his third year in the NHL, while the other is in his sixth. OEL is farther along at this juncture of his career than Letang was three years ago. He has shown improvement in every area on defense every year while upping his offensive output on a team that can't score. I hate to say this, I would would consider trading Letang straight up for him now.
- Oneonta Penguin

And look at Pietrangelo. A guy getting out of his EL deal who has already proven to be one of the elite defenseman in the league. OEL isn't a guy you put in the game with a minute left protecting a lead. Letang is... Letang is a more true 2 way defenseman while OEL doesn't have that defensive side. Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but I wouldn't give that much to someone who hasn't truly proven to be your go to D guy yet. You give a player that salary based on what he already can do, not what you will hope he does. If that's the case, give Bennett a 4-5 mil per year contract now.

My question to you guys that are against the Iginla trade is, What would you guys be willing to give up if Iginla actually signed a 3 year deal in Pitt? I think giving up a future 1st and a D prospect isn't a bad idea. There's obviously enough D prospects to fill our future needs given how young Letang an Depres are.
- nateca44

If that was the case it wouldn't be a bad idea. But everyone knows that Iginla is going to resign in Calgary following the season.

If that was the case it wouldn't be a bad idea. But everyone knows that Iginla is going to resign in Calgary following the season.
- Ben37

Kinda like Guerin? Roberts? Just sayin maybe dude will love Pittsburgh an re-up.

Kinda like Guerin? Roberts? Just sayin maybe dude will love Pittsburgh an re-up.
- nateca44

Guerin wasn't going back to the Island. He had few times there. Garry Roberts wasn't going back to the Panthers. That franchise was a mess. Neither of these guys had a 12-15-year career in the same place.

Kind of like Hossa?

I find it interesting that almost every post that talks about our elite D prospects pretty much fail to include Harrington.
- PENS FAN in CANADA

I've read stuff about how Harrington could become the most valuable defensive prospect we have.

Captain of the Knights and alternate captain for team Canada? I like it.

to kind of get away from deadline deals... lets talk about offseason deals...

say Shero offers both Malkin and Letang fair deals... both of them want more but Shero cant afford to keep both.

who do you keep? who do you trade? realistically what do you ask from other teams for them?

Guerin wasn't going back to the Island. He had few times there. Garry Roberts wasn't going back to the Panthers. That franchise was a mess. Neither of these guys had a 12-15-year career in the same place.
- Oneonta Penguin

Listen, if Iginla waives his no trade clause to come to Pittsburgh is for one reason only: Win a Stanley Cup. These guys have too much pride and want to compete for the Cup. If he likes his chances here, he'll re-sign with us for sure. If he gets a cup in his first year here and wants to leave right after, so be it. A cup is more important than anything. Another thing: I doubt a Cup contender would pay him more than $4-5M/year. Do you understand my reasoning, Oneonta? Just don't come up with a "NO, you're wrong" BS

Listen, if Iginla waives his no trade clause to come to Pittsburgh is for one reason only: Win a Stanley Cup. These guys have too much pride and want to compete for the Cup. If he likes his chances here, he'll re-sign with us for sure. If he gets a cup in his first year here and wants to leave right after, so be it. A cup is more important than anything. Another thing: I doubt a Cup contender would pay him more than $4-5M/year. Do you understand my reasoning, Oneonta? Just don't come up with a "NO, you're wrong" BS
- Orpik44

personally I think he gets traded for a package similar to the ones talked about... Iginla is valuable, but teams aren't willing to pay an arm and a leg for guys anymore at the deadline.

I see a roster player, 1st, and an average prospect going the other way...

to kind of get away from deadline deals... lets talk about offseason deals...

say Shero offers both Malkin and Letang fair deals... both of them want more but Shero cant afford to keep both.

who do you keep? who do you trade? realistically what do you ask from other teams for them?
- SuperHenderson13

No brainer: we keep Geno. We have too many d-man with potential to be special. Geno is a generational talent. No way you trade him. As for what we would ask for Letang: maybe a young stabilished top 6 forward and a d-man.

personally I think he gets traded for a package similar to the ones talked about... Iginla is valuable, but teams aren't willing to pay an arm and a leg for guys anymore at the deadline.

I see a roster player, 1st, and an average prospect going the other way...
- SuperHenderson13

And I think we could offer something like this. Just don't ask me who we would trade. Don't want to propose something ridiculous

to kind of get away from deadline deals... lets talk about offseason deals...

say Shero offers both Malkin and Letang fair deals... both of them want more but Shero cant afford to keep both.

who do you keep? who do you trade? realistically what do you ask from other teams for them?
- SuperHenderson13

Really?

I've read stuff about how Harrington could become the most valuable defensive prospect we have.

Captain of the Knights and alternate captain for team Canada? I like it.
- SuperHenderson13

He's been a favorite since he got drafted. A keeper for sure. He was a steal.

Really?
- Gunner Staal

Really? Yes. Really.

I know everyone says Malkin Malkin Malkin... yet look at how this team has performed in the time when he is missing. compare that to the time when Letang is missing.

the return for Malkin would be absolutely huge.

not saying trade Malkin, but the answer isn't as easy as people think in my opinion

Really? Yes. Really.

I know everyone says Malkin Malkin Malkin... yet look at how this team has performed in the time when he is missing. compare that to the time when Letang is missing.

the return for Malkin would be absolutely huge.

not saying trade Malkin, but the answer isn't as easy as people think in my opinion
- SuperHenderson13

You'll chase your tail for 20 years finding a talent like Malkin. Don't let the Pens uncanny luck in landing Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, Malkin cloud the judgment.

Fact is Letang will be replaced by a combo platter of Despres and Morrow. Orpik will be replaced by Harrington. I honestly have no worries about the state of the defense in the following years.

Kinda like Guerin? Roberts? Just sayin maybe dude will love Pittsburgh an re-up.
- nateca44

And what did they cost the Penguins.

Guerin was acquired for a conditional pick that became a 3rd rounder in 09. So the 90th pick in that draft.

Roberts was acquired for Noah Welch. Who? Exactly.

I have a hunch that Iginla will be more costly than a conditional 4th rounder (3rd if the Pens make the playoffs) or a prospect who will become a waiter at my local Fatburger.

I'm not going to break my balls trying to keep Letang. Let him walk if its over 5 - 6 mil. I don't much care for Malkin but thats such an easy decision.

I'm not going to break my balls trying to keep Letang. Let him walk if its over 5 - 6 mil. I don't much care for Malkin but thats such an easy decision.
- brianb0422

What? $5M? That's what Paul Martin makes. Expect him to get between $6-7M in Pittsburgh and $7.5-8M if he goes to free agency.