LOL.....This is still America and the people who pay me like to sell advertisment.

No laws broken, nothing unethical, just ass backwards thinking on your part.
- Al

I read it as being tongue-in-cheek...a little snark. Only thing missing was a

Then again, perhaps I misread as well...

Any team that has the cap room and willingness to pay him $3 million or so per year on a 3-4 year deal. Of which, there are likely more than a few.
- John Jaeckel

Can they pre negotiate that? That is what I am wondering. Without it, I would think his value is muted? Can Stalberg/agent say he will explore all offers this summer? You know what I mean? I know a lot of teams would like him and pay him that, but would he commit to them now?

My instinct says this is a big hurdle to moving him.

I read it as being tongue-in-cheek...a little snark. Only thing missing was a

Then again, perhaps I misread as well...
- ArlingtonRob

It didn't make any sense, zero including the part of me hawking anything on this site.

The ad runs on a different website and I have permission to link stories from here.

Can they pre negotiate that? That is what I am wondering. Without it, I would think his value is muted? Can Stalberg/agent say he will explore all offers this summer? You know what I mean? I know a lot of teams would like him and pay him that, but would he commit to them now?

My instinct says this is a big hurdle to moving him.
- TrueGrit

There is seldom a time a team would trade in that way...All they need to do is call Bowman after the last game and trade a 6th round pick for negotiating rights before UFA day.

The issue is Staberg doesn't have nearly as much trade value without a contract.
...And most likely, unless Bowman makes him an offer he can't refuse, he will test free agency.

Seems like a lot for a potential rental who is 35...
- Sundevil

>Agree
>Flames own announcers said the other day he isn't worth more than a 2nd round draft choice -- and that's it
>Compared Iggy situation more or less with when Flames traded Nieuwendyk to Dallas for a draft choice (1st?) -- Flames got Iggy, Stars got Joe N and a Cup

>Agree
>Flames own announcers said the other day he isn't worth more than a 2nd round draft choice -- and that's it
>Compared Iggy situation more or less with when Flames traded Nieuwendyk to Dallas for a draft choice (1st?) -- Flames got Iggy, Stars got Joe N and a Cup
- SnapitUpstairs

The Flames traded Nieuwendyk to Dallas for Corey Millen and Iginla. Iggy was drafted in the first round (11th overall) by the Stars in 1995.

Ducks just acquired Steckel from Toronto...pretty good acquisition. Perry is not going anywhere this year.

The Flames traded Nieuwendyk to Dallas for Corey Millen and Iginla. Iggy was drafted in the first round (11th overall) by the stars in 1995.
- DarthKane

One of the play by play guys in Calgary said it best the other day on the NHL Network....

The days of thinking trading Iggy could reshape the Organization in a big way are long gone.

They probably would ask for 1st round pick but if they could get a lower 2nd round selection that might be all he is worth at this point.....maybe a AHL players as well.

There is no cost cost ceratinty and not even sure Iggy wants to play next year.

What was for sure is the Flames will leave it all up to him.

Hawks top performers help take down Columbus - OT changes + Trade thoughts- My Fox Chicago: http://bit.ly/YfYvKw

The Flames traded Nieuwendyk to Dallas for Corey Millen and Iginla. Iggy was drafted in the first round (11th overall) by the Stars in 1995.
- DarthKane

>Fine -- just quoting what their own announcers said
>They said he doesn't have much left in the tank
>Maybe he will have be a lot better with a shot at the Cup

All these trade talks and non of them address the one and only priority on this team, which is a true second line center. Adding a second line center has a possitive trickle down affect on the rest of the forward roster.

Saad Toews Hossa
Sharp Center Kane
Stalberg Bolland Shaw
Bickell Kruger Frolik

Q is rolling 4 lines right now but come playoff time it will be all about matching up against a qualtiy opponent. You need a shut down line, and a fourth line that can play with no fear of being out against a top line.

Stan's focus should be and will be to try to aquire such a player. He has prospects that would be of interest to many GM's. It's just a matter of putting together the right package. TT is the only untouchable!

On another topic for fun, we can start the countdown to clinching the Division, the magic number is 13.5.

so would you be ok swinging a Leddy, McNeil, 1st swap for Iginla?
- FourFeathers773

If I'm Stan Bowman...and the asking price for iginila is either Saad OR Leddy...he can take Saad. Sorry....leddy is going to be needed, and IMO Saad is a helluva lot easier to replace on this roster then Leddy would be. The reason they dealt for Oduya is because they need a guy who can skate the puck out of trouble.

The other note...Sheldon Brookbank...should NEVER play Guy is B-A-D.

2008-09 playoffs . . . 17 games, 3 goals, 6 assists (important ones) and . . . 78 hits (most of any player not in the finals, and many of them, umm, left marks)

Here's one benchmark. There are certainly others.

http://www.tsn.ca/fantasy_news/feature/?ID=10467

Can Keith or Campbell play W like Byfuglien can? Set a screen? Deliver a huge check and completely demoralize a guy to the point of making him quit as I have SEEN Byfuglien do to the likes of Chris Pronger and Corey Perry?

I dunno how you quantify that.
- John Jaeckel

Every goal is important in the playoffs. Ladds game winner, Kanes hat trick. Wow. This notion that Byfugliens are some how more special than anyone else's is preposterous.

I would like to see him play wing for more than the playoffs at a high level. The other results speak for themselves and defensively those 3 players are superior. Campbell is probably better on the PP as well.

Those hits show up a hand full of times a few weeks out of the year after 82 games have been played.

Buff is basically Bickell only better at screens and can play D in a pinch. Sub the wrist shot for a slapper and they start to look very similar. Especially if you factor in how they both up intensity during the playoffs.

Chris Pronger was also 36 years old. I would hope that some 25 year old with a forty pound advantage and those athletic gifts could wear that old man down. Especially after a very long and trying regular season and playoff run. How could he not?

There is seldom a time a team would trade in that way...All they need to do is call Bowman after the last game and trade a 6th round pick for negotiating rights before UFA day.

The issue is Staberg doesn't have nearly as much trade value without a contract.
...And most likely, unless Bowman makes him an offer he can't refuse, he will test free agency.
- Al

That is along the lines of my point in response to all the Stalberg trade rumors on the board.

Thank you for confirming this.

Hoping many board gms like myself will consider this before throwing out crazy proposals.

Every goal is important in the playoffs. Ladds game winner, Kanes hat trick. Wow. This notion that Byfugliens are some how more special than anyone else's is preposterous.

I would like to see him play wing for more than the playoffs at a high level. The other results speak for themselves and defensively those 3 players are superior. Campbell is probably better on the PP as well.

Those hits show up a hand full of times a few weeks out of the year after 82 games have been played.

Buff is basically Bickell only better at screens and can play D in a pinch. Sub the wrist shot for a slapper and they start to look very similar. Especially if you factor in how they both up intensity during the playoffs.

Chris Pronger was also 36 years old. I would hope that some 25 year old with a forty pound advantage and those athletic gifts could wear that old man down. Especially after a very long and trying regular season and playoff run. How could he not?
- fattybeef

There are some, and I am in that group, that believed Byfuglien should have won the Conn Smyth trophy as the playoff MVP in 2010. He was as good as Toews in all 4 series, but I thought Toews wasn't as dominant as Byfuglien in the Philly Series. And arguably the play that broke the Flyer's collective back was Buff emasculating Pronger, reducing him to nothing more than a puck thief.

- DarthKane

Too funny.

That is along the lines of my point in response to all the Stalberg trade rumors on the board.

Thank you for confirming this.

Hoping many board gms like myself will consider this before throwing out crazy proposals.
- TrueGrit

LOL Stalberg for Iginla and a 3rd.

If I'm Stan Bowman...and the asking price for iginila is either Saad OR Leddy...he can take Saad. Sorry....leddy is going to be needed, and IMO Saad is a helluva lot easier to replace on this roster then Leddy would be. The reason they dealt for Oduya is because they need a guy who can skate the puck out of trouble.

The other note...Sheldon Brookbank...should NEVER play Guy is B-A-D.
- SteveRain

I disagree with your logic....Leddy is a 3rd pairing D with top 4 potential...Saad is on the top line right now (i understand hes not a top line player) however, he is learning the game from two of the best players in the league in Hossa and Toews, and hes 20! Leddy does not have top 2 potential IMO and Saad could be top 6 material as soon as he puts it all together...not to mention the other 3 3rd line pairing D-men waiting in the wings Clendening, Johns, Stanton...

If I'm Stan Bowman...and the asking price for iginila is either Saad OR Leddy...he can take Saad. Sorry....leddy is going to be needed, and IMO Saad is a helluva lot easier to replace on this roster then Leddy would be. The reason they dealt for Oduya is because they need a guy who can skate the puck out of trouble.

The other note...Sheldon Brookbank...should NEVER play Guy is B-A-D.
- SteveRain

Brookbank is what he is....a 7th d-men. I've thought he has been pretty decent. Dumb penalty last night but all in all....not bad.

All these trade talks and non of them address the one and only priority on this team, which is a true second line center. Adding a second line center has a possitive trickle down affect on the rest of the forward roster.

Saad Toews Hossa
Sharp Center Kane
Stalberg Bolland Shaw
Bickell Kruger Frolik

Q is rolling 4 lines right now but come playoff time it will be all about matching up against a qualtiy opponent. You need a shut down line, and a fourth line that can play with no fear of being out against a top line.

Stan's focus should be and will be to try to aquire such a player. He has prospects that would be of interest to many GM's. It's just a matter of putting together the right package. TT is the only untouchable!

On another topic for fun, we can start the countdown to clinching the Division, the magic number is 13.5.
- hawksbuzz

Not a rumor but I gave you some food for thought concerning a 2nd line center.
Hawks top performers help take down Columbus - OT changes + Trade thoughts- My Fox Chicago: http://bit.ly/YfYvKw

Not a rumor but I gave you some food for thought concerning a 2nd line center.
Hawks top performers help take down Columbus - OT changes + Trade thoughts- My Fox Chicago: http://bit.ly/YfYvKw
- Al

Riberio could work, but we need an additional centre for additional face off support. If Riberio and Hendricks could be packaged together....

Riberio could work, but we need an additional centre for additional face off support. If Riberio and Hendricks could be packaged together....
- DarthKane

Trouble is finding everything in one player....But for a #1-#2 center, Ribeiro will be hard to beat if availble. Faceoffs won't be as bad as Bolland or Kruger.

The other way to go about it woud be to acquire a bottom six player that can win faceoffs.

Depending on how the next two weeks go Bowman could sit on his hands or add one player....2 might be asking for too much unless a healthy losing streak or some injuries happen.

Hawks top performers help take down Columbus - OT changes + Trade thoughts- My Fox Chicago: http://bit.ly/YfYvKw

Trouble is finding everything in one player....But for a #1-#2 center, Ribeiro will be hard to beat if availble. Faceoffs won't be as bad as Bolland or Kruger.

The other way to go about it woud be to acquire a bottom six player that can win faceoffs.

Depending on how the next two weeks go Bowman could sit on his hands or add one player....2 might be asking for too much unless a healthy losing streak or some injuries happen.

Hawks top performers help take down Columbus - OT changes + Trade thoughts- My Fox Chicago: http://bit.ly/YfYvKw
- Al

According to this year's stats Riberio is worse than Bolland, Shaw and Kruger.

According to this year's stats Riberio is worse than Bolland, Shaw and Kruger.
- DarthKane

Really how bad.....?

Also need to consider he is facing the best checking line in most occasions.

We've been discussing trade possibilities and it really makes the most amount of sense to find Bowman using an Icehog for a rental player. If somehow we could pull a rabbit out of a hat, then package something with Icehog and receive Ott or Br Morrow -- but you just do not want to pay any asset for a rental player -- which you would do if sending something in addition to the Icehog. The rental player wold by necessity be released or amoritized. You only are allowed two of those buyouts, and they should become Montador and Olescz.

You do know that Bowman is fond of his prospects, especially the drafts who look like they are able to fill a need this team has for a long, long time. You can go ahead and say Feaster is not going to be able to dictate terms and will accept much less for Inginla.....but with other teams offering at least a better prospect and or a higher draft pick (than #30 overall) ....well you might as well cross Inginla off the list of a newbie wearing the Indian crest.

So revisit the Icehog situation. Hayes gets an auditiion. For some reason nobody on this board wants to reply to my idea of Hayes tried on the PP in front of the net. Incentive to stick on the NHL roster. Do his best Big Buff act!

What we should also hope to see while Sharp is out, is Morin put on the #2 line. For this reason: he is the best true goal scorer at Rockford. He has a mean streak, soft hands, can pass ok and has one of the best shots even among NHL brothren. Yeah, Blackhawks reportedly have tried to change his approach, his style. I saw him last Sunday and he still sometimes has the mindset of shooting from bad angles and not using his teamates well. In Chicago he could be told that is taboo. In Chicago he could garner some points when he plays with top skill players. Sure his skating is an issue but if he scores enough then someone may just give you the rental player for this prospect. Their thinking: I am getting an option as a scorer on the cheap, whether Morin works well for them or not.

And Bowman this summer will begin the process of extracting prospects and bring in a new set.

Did you happen to catch J Nordstrom, who played in the World Junior Tournament, is going to come over and maybe play at the end of Rockford's season? Now you have McNeil, Nordstrom, and Danault. Each would be the sort who can play defensively while they adjust to the NHL. McNeil and Danault have done so at each level, and, in fact, were lauded for their strong defensive effort in the WJC.

Now Philco says he saw McNeil and was not impressed with a lack of physicality. Based on two evaluations you cannot make that claim. McNeil: was his team behind, was he playing with a minor injury, did his linemattes change, or whatever else we do not know could affect his performance. We know he is supposed to be a warrior and is fast. Was projected as a possible #2 center in Chicago. May be the kind of center we need.

I had asked Wiz if maybe McNeil would turn out a lot like Bickel. His response was that you cannot accurately predict where McNeil lands until he arrives in Chicago. Perhaps Philco just wants to see if McNeill lines up in his eyes as a Ott or Hartnell.

We really have to take the same thought on each prospect. On Johns as a shut down mean SOB. As Tervainen as a skill top six center. Toewes is maybe one serious concussion away from joining Pronger in the rocking chair, namely early retirement.

And while Bowman has moved some picks, it is hard to fathom his moving his only top 2013 pick for a rental player who would be bought out in the summer.

I don not buy into the trading of Leddy, either, despite rumblings about his agent. His subtraction wold upset the dmen alignment. Things are not always exactly how you like them to line up in life; they will deal with Leddy's agent. They can curse his agent all they want behind his back.

If going for the Cup you might as well hold on to Stalberg. Unless you are going to exchange him for that center who can win a draw. A depth dman and another physical forward should be available for a cheap price, not a Stalberg price.

It would makes sense to decide if you are going to try Stanton a couple of games. If you think he is your 7th dman now or next year. Montador is not going to play ever again for us; if he gets injured then you may not be able to buy out.

Well I just wish someone would reply about Hayes on the powerplay & is young Broadhuirst moving into top prospect territory (not yet I heard). I do say Morin can be a trade chip, too.