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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
I'll repost the same reply I did earlier. The FLyers drafting philosophy is to draft the best player available. Regardless of position or Country of Origin.
- MJL

I'm going to need another bowl of popcorn at this rate. Sheesh. Their drafting strategy has been known for years. And their drafting of Dmen this past year has been conveniently ignored.
Pyzik
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Flemington, NJ
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 15 @ 10:53 AM ET
Let me elaborate:

The Flyers like Canadian players.

Canadian minor hockey has a different philosophy on forwards than the rest of the world: in Canada, your best forwards play centre. Period.

Think of the greatest centres of the past 25 years: Gretzky, Lemieux, Sakic, Yzerman, etc. All Canadians.

Think of the greatest wingers of the last 25 years: off the top of my head, it's hard to think of Canadians. Kariya?

2nd case in point: think of every time Canada assembles a national team. They always take centres and put them on the wings.

Flyers like Canadians. Flyers like drafting forwards. So Flyers draft Canadian centres.

- Atomic Wedgie


Canadian Wingers: Recchi
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
guess its not working
- vejim


Why is it not working?
strongsupporter
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
There are only 2 ways the Flyers win tonight
1. Bryz has the game of his life
2. Hedberg is awful

The Flyers are a dysfunctional team right now. They are trying to hard and making terrible mistakes. They will lose tonight and probably Sunday against Tampa too. Expect a press conference to announce a new coach on Monday.

- BiggE

Guarantee they don't lose sunday.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
I like the Timonen/Schenn pairing. I don't think skating is an issue for either player. And if the Flyers feel that Gustafsson is struggling for whatever reason. Then they did the right thing by sending him down. This is not a good situation for a struggling young defenseman.
- MJL


But it's a good situation for Couturier to continue to struggle?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:54 AM ET
I'm going to need another bowl of popcorn at this rate. Sheesh. Their drafting strategy has been known for years. And their drafting of Dmen this past year has been conveniently ignored.
- Flyskippy


Well they didn't draft Dougie Hamilton.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
Let me elaborate:

The Flyers like Canadian players.

Canadian minor hockey has a different philosophy on forwards than the rest of the world: in Canada, your best forwards play centre. Period.

Think of the greatest centres of the past 25 years: Gretzky, Lemieux, Sakic, Yzerman, etc. All Canadians.

Think of the greatest wingers of the last 25 years: off the top of my head, it's hard to think of Canadians. Kariya?

2nd case in point: think of every time Canada assembles a national team. They always take centres and put them on the wings.

Flyers like Canadians. Flyers like drafting forwards. So Flyers draft Canadian centres.

- Atomic Wedgie

oh Canada
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
Homer has issues with drafting Dmen for the phantoms but will go and sign these wretched Dmen from other organizations. He had the chance to draft Dmen the last couple years and opted for centermen. I feel the organization has this belief they are going to draft the next Bob Clarke and that the center position is the most important.
- vejim

Totally didn't know this was your post due to its length.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
But it's a good situation for Couturier to continue to struggle?
- PLindbergh31


No it's not a good situation at all for Couturier to struggle.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:55 AM ET
Why is it not working?
- MJL

what have they won?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
I'm going to need another bowl of popcorn at this rate. Sheesh. Their drafting strategy has been known for years. And their drafting of Dmen this past year has been conveniently ignored.
- Flyskippy

Can you believe they didn't draft ANY defensemen through the entire month of Frebruary? TALK ABOUT EGG ON HOLMGLRL'S FACE
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
Canadian Wingers: Recchi
- Pyzik

I joked last week, but if I go tonight I'm wearing my Recchi jersey tonight.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:56 AM ET
what have they won?
- vejim


So any team that hasn't won the Cup, their drafting strategy isn't working?
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
Totally didn't know this was your post due to its length.
- Flyskippy

impressive, ah
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:57 AM ET
The Flyers were up on their skates, especially to start the game. But the structure just isn't there. And as much as I think he's a moron at times. Mike Milbury's description of the Flyers was perfect. They are recklessly aggressive.
- MJL


not the first 5 minutes. they had a LOUSY first shift, followed by a 2 on 1 Bryz save, and then failed clear for the elias goal less than 3 minutes into the game. they were asleep at the start. rinaldo got them going by drawing a penalty, and then another one where they tallied.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 15 @ 10:58 AM ET
So any team that hasn't won the Cup, their drafting strategy isn't working?
- MJL

come on...not fighting with you
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
guess its not working
- vejim


In the past ten years, four teams have won as many as 10 playoff series.

One of them is the Flyers. The only team with more playoff series wins than the Flyers is the Red Wings.

So, yeah, it kinda is working.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:02 AM ET
In the past ten years, four teams have won as many as 10 playoff series.

One of them is the Flyers. The only team with more playoff series wins than the Flyers is the Red Wings.

So, yeah, it kinda is working.

- Jsaquella

like our Defense, kinda
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 15 @ 11:04 AM ET
like our Defense, kinda
- vejim


The problems with the defense are largely caused by the system and the lack of effective two way play by the forwards

Of course that would require bringing some depth to the conversation and your contributions are generally as deep as a teaspoon

See, I can make a one liner, too.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:04 AM ET
not the first 5 minutes. they had a LOUSY first shift, followed by a 2 on 1 Bryz save, and then failed clear for the elias goal less than 3 minutes into the game. they were asleep at the start. rinaldo got them going by drawing a penalty, and then another one where they tallied.
- hammarby31


They made the same usual mistakes. But they still came out up on their skates, and with jump.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
There are at least 3 people influencing their direction: Snider, Homer, & Lavi. They can't all be on the same page if the owner is dictating to the GM and the owner & GM are dictating to the coach. Another reason the coach needs to change: either the game plan or the person himself.

I am curious to (but will never) know what would've happened in 2011 had the Flyers stuck with Bob & got a backup instead of signing Bryz.

- Flyskippy


Exactly. What they did to Bob will never make any sense to me.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:05 AM ET
come on...not fighting with you
- vejim


You make statements without any context or evidence to back them up.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:06 AM ET
You make statements without any context or evidence to back them up.
- MJL

right
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Mar 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
You make statements without any context or evidence to back them up.
- MJL

my evidence is I have followed the flyers
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 15 @ 11:07 AM ET
Guarantee they don't lose sunday.
- strongsupporter


You would think not, with Tampa having lost Lacavalier and playing their 3rd game in 4 nights. However, the Flyers look to me like a team that will play well at times, but they just seem to find a way to lose. I really hope I'm wrong, but.....
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