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Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
great points, and i agree seeing a florida team come to qc would be the likely scenario! i was watching the game last night with a nordiques fan taking about if a team from florida came to qc, what a lucky break that wowuld be! finally those teams would get great fan support!

stoked to see the det and leafs rivalry heat up again... would have loved to see chi come back to the east tho. man original 6 back in the east!! love it!

- munky123

Being from Halifax, QC would be a team that I could actually see consistently in person! Only an 8 and a half hour drive if you know when and where to speed.

I've been attentively following the Florida teams and Phoenix, because I have a feeling one of those rosters is going to end up being the Nordiques.

The Oilers would obviously still be my #1, but the Nords could be my eastern conference team
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
I can say with as much certainty that they're available as you can that they're not available. Zilch either way, as we're not insiders.

- Philly is up against the cap. Wouldn't surprise me to see a guy like Mezaros go.
- NY Rangers are also up there with McDonagh still to re-sign. Staal or Del Zotto could be on the move.
- Boyle, Oduya, Bouwmeester and Campbell all have bloated contracts. They could go.
- Buffalo has a log-jam of defensemen, so a guy like Sekera could be traded.

That's all pure speculation. But not every player demands to be traded like Rick Nash. We're not going to know someone was available until a trade happens. If in a hypothetical world there's a dman available around draft time, and the cost includes a 1st round pick, Tambs would be foolish not to consider it.

- Morris


Mezaros I dont think helps the team.
McDonagh would be great or Stall or Del Zotto. But the Rags are not moving anyone right now. Maybe this summer.
Boyle, Oduya, Boumeester, Campbell contracts would hurt the team going forward. Jbo would be interesting, but I highly doubt Calgary would trade him to Edmonton.
Sekera is by no means going to improve our D.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
My god your a tool. You keep coming on here spewing your crap and expect to be taken seriously? Always with the trolling and you expect a different response? Keep up the tough guy act.
- Iggysbff



?? im not trolling... only a fool would say that... secondly i dont come here to be patted on the back.. i come here to shoot the poop. what do you come here? judging by you handle you want to be taken seriously and penis envy for iggy...

im not tough either... you ACT tough behind a screen by calling people names.. something that little boys generally do.. i equate you to the same kids i unfortunalty have to hear talk in black ops 2.. a 90's baby that know it all... sad really
thefullnelson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.03.2012

Mar 14 @ 1:43 PM ET
I was thinking about East vs West today while looking at the standings. Being that they didn't get a chance to do inter-conference games this year with the tight scheduling, I think there's a very real possibility that the cup finals could be a 4-1 or 4-0 series.

We have no idea who's better or worse as a conference. We can only assume that Chicago, Pittsburgh, Anaheim and Montreal are among the best teams this year, but we have no idea who's better: Vancouver or Ottawa? Boston or LA? It could make for a very exciting - or very disappointing playoffs.

- Morris

Very good point! I know that the segregation of the conferences saves the owners a bunch of money, but as a fan, I hate it.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:45 PM ET
Being from Halifax, QC would be a team that I could actually see consistently in person! Only an 8 and a half hour drive if you know when and where to speed.

I've been attentively following the Florida teams and Phoenix, because I have a feeling one of those rosters is going to end up being the Nordiques.

The Oilers would obviously still be my #1, but the Nords could be my eastern conference team

- Morris



illbe in halifax this summer, going to gaspe and then to haligonia! sooo (frank)ing stoked. nordiques coming back is a win win for everyone and the league
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 14 @ 1:45 PM ET
exactly!
- munky123


Just keep coming back here every day saying the same thing about twenty times a day....I gets really old.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 1:47 PM ET
Mezaros I dont think helps the team.
McDonagh would be great or Stall or Del Zotto. But the Rags are not moving anyone right now. Maybe this summer.
Boyle, Oduya, Boumeester, Campbell contracts would hurt the team going forward. Jbo would be interesting, but I highly doubt Calgary would trade him to Edmonton.Sekera is by no means going to improve our D.

- Iggysbff

We would for Yak...

don't freak out, just joking. We would need a 2nd as well.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
Mezaros I dont think helps the team.
McDonagh would be great or Stall or Del Zotto. But the Rags are not moving anyone right now. Maybe this summer.
Boyle, Oduya, Boumeester, Campbell contracts would hurt the team going forward. Jbo would be interesting, but I highly doubt Calgary would trade him to Edmonton.
Sekera is by no means going to improve our D.

- Iggysbff

Well I was thinking more at the draft than right now. A) We get to feel out where our draft choice is, and whether it's at all worth trading (top 5 - definitely not, top 10 - for the right return, top 15 - more comfortable moving it still) and B) By that time other teams are feeling the cap crunch.

In any case, it's all speculative, but there will be a lot of cash-strapped teams this summer and we might be able to get good deals. Even looking at the Richards deal, they gave up Simmonds, Schenn and a 2nd, so good players can be had without trading a first.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
thanks for actually responding with intellegence.

the only part that im confused with regards to the realignment is how a team like the nordiques could be penciled in, unless like morris pointed out, a florida team could be dropped.

was looking at the stats last night, cant believ how tight the west is. still i think when it comes to depth and gritty teams, the east takes it. actually that was more valid last year, seeing as philly has dropped of the face of the earth. nyr is a shadow of the team last year.

team to watch tho, a resurgance if you will is a healthy ottawa. that team is what the oilers should be modeled after.. perfect blend of young and vets.. scary how good they are with all those injuries. (frank)ing incredible coaching astaff too

- munky123


Oilers wanted to be like this. Unfortunatly the Vets they kept and tried to build around were the wrong guys. They didnt have Spezza and Alfie and Phillips. We had Horcoff, Hemsky. Not the same. Hence the longer timeline to retool.
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
?? im not trolling... only a fool would say that... secondly i dont come here to be patted on the back.. i come here to shoot the poop. what do you come here? judging by you handle you want to be taken seriously and penis envy for iggy...
im not tough either... you ACT tough behind a screen by calling people names.. something that little boys generally do.. i equate you to the same kids i unfortunalty have to hear talk in black ops 2.. a 90's baby that know it all... sad really

- munky123

That's Messier.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
Suck it Munky...you have no clue....
- Iggysbff

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
We would for Yak...

don't freak out, just joking. We would need a 2nd as well.

- whipper334

whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 1:50 PM ET

- ruttager17

munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:50 PM ET
Oilers wanted to be like this. Unfortunatly the Vets they kept and tried to build around were the wrong guys. They didnt have Spezza and Alfie and Phillips. We had Horcoff, Hemsky. Not the same. Hence the longer timeline to retool.
- Iggysbff



agreed, but i really think with the new ufa rules they can attrack some vets of the same calibre. it should be an exciting trade deadline and free angency!
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:51 PM ET
That's Messier.
- whipper334


handle not pic but i can see the reference, just being reactionary!
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:53 PM ET

- ruttager17



ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
That's Messier.
- whipper334

Whipper you're back! Guess that means the flames must have won last night giving you enough of a false sense of hope and pride to come troll over. Glad to have ya buddy. I hope your team all goes out for lunch today at Japanese Village and gets a severe case of food poisoning.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 14 @ 1:53 PM ET
Well I was thinking more at the draft than right now. A) We get to feel out where our draft choice is, and whether it's at all worth trading (top 5 - definitely not, top 10 - for the right return, top 15 - more comfortable moving it still) and B) By that time other teams are feeling the cap crunch.

In any case, it's all speculative, but there will be a lot of cash-strapped teams this summer and we might be able to get good deals. Even looking at the Richards deal, they gave up Simmonds, Schenn and a 2nd, so good players can be had without trading a first.

- Morris


If you are willing to give up some of your other young talent....

Which is where these guys saying trade Hall/Nuge/Yak are off. It creates a bigger hole than it solves.

Are the Oilers willing to part with 3 or 4 young up and comers (MPS/Harti/Lander/Klefbom) to get one big star? I wouldnt, but thats just me.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:54 PM ET

- munky123

I don't even gotta tell ya anymore, seems to be catching on. Ill have to move on to someone else next time i am fist. But I will never forget you and the good times we have had here on HB
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
handle not pic but i can see the reference, just being reactionary!
- munky123

my bad!
whipper334
Calgary Flames
Location: The man they call Reveen!!
Joined: 01.06.2010

Mar 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
Whipper you're back! Guess that means the flames must have won last night giving you enough of a false sense of hope and pride to come troll over. Glad to have ya buddy. I hope your team all goes out for lunch today at Japanese Village and gets a severe case of food poisoning.
- ruttager17

Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Mar 14 @ 1:55 PM ET
agreed, but i really think with the new ufa rules they can attrack some vets of the same calibre. it should be an exciting trade deadline and free angency!
- munky123


Go through the list of pending UFA's. Who do you think they should get and what would you offer them?
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
I don't even gotta tell ya anymore, seems to be catching on. Ill have to move on to someone else next time i am fist. But I will never forget you and the good times we have had here on HB
- ruttager17


you have started something... more and more im told to suck it.. haha to good! word b!
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 14 @ 1:59 PM ET
Whipper you're back! Guess that means the flames must have won last night giving you enough of a false sense of hope and pride to come troll over. Glad to have ya buddy. I hope your team all goes out for lunch today at Japanese Village and gets a severe case of food poisoning.
- ruttager17


ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
you have started something... more and more im told to suck it.. haha to good! word b!
- munky123

Suck it is all I got, seeing as how I really have no animosity for the Habs (well not since over 20 years ago) and they are leading the Leastern Conference so can't even take shots at em for doing bad. Whats it like to not be trollable right now? Haven't known that for over 4 years.
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