Not to sound rude or anything but the question of why they didn't try to trade him is kind of a stupid one considering the circumstances. He just cleared waivers. That means that no one wanted him for free let alone for a draft pick...
- 22sedins33

Thats what he was sayin dude....

Unfortunately for Edmonton fans in a short season this team is doing a bit too well to qualify for another first overall or maybe even a top 10 pick, yet are not doing well enough yet to warrant a playoff birth.

It's going to be a strange off season for you with no sure thing elite prospect waiting to be plucked from the draft and inserted directly into the Oiler line up. Oilers are going to actually have to develop a player or two. Might be just what they need. Let the young guys develop without inserting another wet behind the ears pup directly into the starting line up.
- MnGump

STFU....

trade the pick(s).

1.the oil have great prospect depth
2.they have great some of the better rookies/young talent, currently playing in the league
3.they need insulation
4. i completely understand that the draft is great this year, but at some point a risk has to be taken. the nucleus is already set. if you trade some picks and it doest work out this season, theres always the ufa(s) come next season and you wouldnt be losing out to bad. is getting some more prospects this offseason going to really benifit the team in the next 1-2 years? the oil are loaded.
5. im sure theres a way to trade the oils #1 and #2 to get some 25-32 year old quality vets, and possibly get a #1 in return, just a higher one.
6. have a feeling this will be an interresting trade deadline. hope tambs makes a few tweaks.
7. what do you think of the realignement being approved?
- munky123

Suck it Munky...you have no clue....

Dripping with condescension, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

If I was a betting man, I'd put the chips on that pick getting traded.
- Morris

I think you'd lose tht bet Morris. As deep as this draft is I dont see it. I could see them trading a first in 2014.

Suck it Munky...you have no clue....
- Iggysbff

word up!

i just dont see how if the last few years the oil have used the picks pretty decent that this year they cant take a risk and get a few vets or a goalie to tandem duby.

but to be honest, judging your maturity lvl, youre not even worth discussing the oils future with anywya. its really just an opionin, and i did mention that you could probably geta first back along the way, just a higher one...

but with your logic grab jones or drouin, mackinon, keep being mediocre and small...

STFU....
- Iggysbff

Not sure what the problem is. My whole point is that I think it will be good to start moving forward with the table that is already set. Move that first round pick for some more quality depth and continue to develop the prospects you already have while adding a few more prospects for future development. The Oilers can be a great team without a top pick every single season.

I think you'd lose tht bet Morris. As deep as this draft is I dont see it. I could see them trading a first in 2014.
- Iggysbff

hey because youre such a savante (you know what a savante is right?) tell me why this year is better than next... do you know whos draft eligible next year? why is this year a bad one to trade the #1 away?

please enlighten me/us

I think you'd lose tht bet Morris. As deep as this draft is I dont see it. I could see them trading a first in 2014.
- Iggysbff

Depends on what's available. If we're drafting in and around 10th (and esp if lower), and a true top 4 dman is available for a package deal that includes a 1st (like Staal or Carter to CBJ deal), I'd have to think Tambelini strongly considers it. Not trading it for the sake of trading it, but I'd rather have a 25 year-old impact player than another prospect.

word up!

i just dont see how if the last few years the oil have used the picks pretty decent that this year they cant take a risk and get a few vets or a goalie to tandem duby.

but to be honest, judging your maturity lvl, youre not even worth discussing the oils future with anywya. its really just an opionin, and i did mention that you could probably geta first back along the way, just a higher one...

but with your logic grab jones or drouin, mackinon, keep being mediocre and small...
- munky123

It has nothing to do with getting a top 5 pick. It has to do with making a move that makes sense.

We've tried to discuss this before and you keep spouting nonsense.

Tell me. Who are the Oil going to trade that pick for that fills a need. Anyone that could fill the need the Oil have is NOT AVAILABLE. Its pretty easy to suggest they give it up for a top 2 Dman or a top 6 winger with size and grit. WHO? It's not out there to get right now!

Not sure what the problem is. My whole point is that I think it will be good to start moving forward with the table that is already set. Move that first round pick for some more quality depth and continue to develop the prospects you already have while adding a few more prospects for future development. The Oilers can be a great team without a top pick every single season.
- MnGump

yup!

hey because youre such a savante (you know what a savante is right?) tell me why this year is better than next... do you know whos draft eligible next year? why is this year a bad one to trade the #1 away?

please enlighten me/us
- munky123

Because at this point in time the Oilers still have holes to fill. Holes that they cannot fill via trade. They can aquire the players needed at this draft and off season. Next year, they should have no need for a 1st.

Edit: There are also VERY few UFA's that fit their need. If they could get a key guy as a UFA, that would change things as well.

trade the pick(s).

1.the oil have great prospect depth
2.they have great some of the better rookies/young talent, currently playing in the league
3.they need insulation
4. i completely understand that the draft is great this year, but at some point a risk has to be taken. the nucleus is already set. if you trade some picks and it doest work out this season, theres always the ufa(s) come next season and you wouldnt be losing out to bad. is getting some more prospects this offseason going to really benifit the team in the next 1-2 years? the oil are loaded.
5. im sure theres a way to trade the oils #1 and #2 to get some 25-32 year old quality vets, and possibly get a #1 in return, just a higher one.
6. have a feeling this will be an interresting trade deadline. hope tambs makes a few tweaks.
7. what do you think of the realignement being approved?
- munky123

Keep the first rounder and at least one of the second rounders!

1)The Oilers have no prospect depth at C and could really use another promising G
2)True dat
3)Yup - but complementary role-players can be had on the trade market and via free agency relatively cheaply. True game-breakers are very hard to come by.
4)IMO we can do whatever we want with any of our picks except the first (which must bring us a big skilled C) and the 2nd (which must be used on the best keeper available). I would like to see us take BPA every round but we will likely draft a bunch of Mitch Moroz-types after that. Boo-urns.
5)Maybe there is, but I don't see that as a clearly better option than drafting the next Ryan Getzlaf.
6)Tambi will do what he does best... nothing. Although he might be forced to deal Smid, which is too bad because he is not really all that good at doing something.
7)I'm all for it! For decades mediocre teams in the East have been getting into the playoffs that would not have made it in the West, so it's about time that the West gets an advantage for a change! Plus it sort of offsets the fact that teams in the East have less travel time than teams in the West.

7. what do you think of the realignement being approved?
- munky123

To me, alignment indicates one thing: "Suck it Florida and Tampa, we're not interested in bailing you out".

To put Florida & Tampa, Carolina, and Nashville in three different divisions indicates to me that building regional rivalries is not a priority for the league. Either those teams put up or shut up in terms of financial success. I think Nashville and Carolina look pretty solid in the go-ahead, and Tampa Bay seems to have a plethora of young talent, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Florida Panthers move up to QC or Southern Ontario in a few years. The alignment is perfectly poised for it.

It has nothing to do with getting a top 5 pick. It has to do with making a move that makes sense.

We've tried to discuss this before and you keep spouting nonsense.

Tell me. Who are the Oil going to trade that pick for that fills a need. Anyone that could fill the need the Oil have is NOT AVAILABLE. Its pretty easy to suggest they give it up for a top 2 Dman or a top 6 winger with size and grit. WHO? It's not out there to get right now!
- Iggysbff

i think there are plenty of teams that would take the oils #1 in exchange for some decent talent.

my point was, that if theres a chance to trade it you do it. take a risk, make an offer or 2 and insulate this great core the oilers have. you dont have to give up much to make this team that much better.

but i can tell youre an angry person. take these forums more seriously. i would love for you to talk to me like that to my face bro. its nice seeing people act tough and sassy on a comp. when to be honest it still shows how weak and sad youre as a person...

keep up the good wrk bro

To me, alignment indicates one thing: "Suck it Florida and Tampa, we're not interested in bailing you out".

To put Florida & Tampa, Carolina, and Nashville in three different divisions indicates to me that building regional rivalries is not a priority for the league. Either those teams put up or shut up in terms of financial success. I think Nashville and Carolina look pretty solid in the go-ahead, and Tampa Bay seems to have a plethora of young talent, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Florida Panthers move up to QC or Southern Ontario in a few years. The alignment is perfectly poised for it.
- Morris

Apparently the owners of the Panthers own a bunch of other hockey-related businesses so that while the Panthers lose money most years, the overall business package is a success.

...and I guess I'm a regional buffoon cause I couldn't care less about Florida, Carolina, Tampa or Nashville. To me they are represent an extra vault of gold coins for the owners to swim around in and a large watering down of the talent pool. So yeah. Regional buffoon.

Keep the first rounder and at least one of the second rounders!

1)The Oilers have no prospect depth at C and could really use another promising G
2)True dat
3)Yup - but complementary role-players can be had on the trade market and via free agency relatively cheaply. True game-breakers are very hard to come by.
4)IMO we can do whatever we want with any of our picks except the first (which must bring us a big skilled C) and the 2nd (which must be used on the best keeper available). I would like to see us take BPA every round but we will likely draft a bunch of Mitch Moroz-types after that. Boo-urns.
5)Maybe there is, but I don't see that as a clearly better option than drafting the next Ryan Getzlaf.
6)Tambi will do what he does best... nothing. Although he might be forced to deal Smid, which is too bad because he is not really all that good at doing something.
7)I'm all for it! For decades mediocre teams in the East have been getting into the playoffs that would not have made it in the West, so it's about time that the West gets an advantage for a change! Plus it sort of offsets the fact that teams in the East have less travel time than teams in the West.
- thefullnelson

thanks for actually responding with intellegence.

the only part that im confused with regards to the realignment is how a team like the nordiques could be penciled in, unless like morris pointed out, a florida team could be dropped.

was looking at the stats last night, cant believ how tight the west is. still i think when it comes to depth and gritty teams, the east takes it. actually that was more valid last year, seeing as philly has dropped of the face of the earth. nyr is a shadow of the team last year.

team to watch tho, a resurgance if you will is a healthy ottawa. that team is what the oilers should be modeled after.. perfect blend of young and vets.. scary how good they are with all those injuries. (frank)ing incredible coaching astaff too

It has nothing to do with getting a top 5 pick. It has to do with making a move that makes sense.

We've tried to discuss this before and you keep spouting nonsense.

Tell me. Who are the Oil going to trade that pick for that fills a need. Anyone that could fill the need the Oil have is NOT AVAILABLE. Its pretty easy to suggest they give it up for a top 2 Dman or a top 6 winger with size and grit. WHO? It's not out there to get right now!
- Iggysbff

I can say with as much certainty that they're available as you can that they're not available. Zilch either way, as we're not insiders.

- Philly is up against the cap. Wouldn't surprise me to see a guy like Mezaros go.
- NY Rangers are also up there with McDonagh still to re-sign. Staal or Del Zotto could be on the move.
- Boyle, Oduya, Bouwmeester and Campbell all have bloated contracts. They could go.
- Buffalo has a log-jam of defensemen, so a guy like Sekera could be traded.

That's all pure speculation. But not every player demands to be traded like Rick Nash. We're not going to know someone was available until a trade happens. If in a hypothetical world there's a dman available around draft time, and the cost includes a 1st round pick, Tambs would be foolish not to consider it.

For no particular reason, I am reminded of the GIFT "(Greater Internet F*ckwad Theory")

Normal Person + Anonymity + An Audience = Total F*ckwad.

Scientists studied this and approved of it, although they gave it some other acronym that likely has more syllables and less meaning.

I'm not taking sides, just making an observation....

To me, alignment indicates one thing: "Suck it Florida and Tampa, we're not interested in bailing you out".

To put Florida & Tampa, Carolina, and Nashville in three different divisions indicates to me that building regional rivalries is not a priority for the league. Either those teams put up or shut up in terms of financial success. I think Nashville and Carolina look pretty solid in the go-ahead, and Tampa Bay seems to have a plethora of young talent, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the Florida Panthers move up to QC or Southern Ontario in a few years. The alignment is perfectly poised for it.
- Morris

great points, and i agree seeing a florida team come to qc would be the likely scenario! i was watching the game last night with a nordiques fan taking about if a team from florida came to qc, what a lucky break that wowuld be! finally those teams would get great fan support!

stoked to see the det and leafs rivalry heat up again... would have loved to see chi come back to the east tho. man original 6 back in the east!! love it!

i think there are plenty of teams that would take the oils #1 in exchange for some decent talent.

my point was, that if theres a chance to trade it you do it. take a risk, make an offer or 2 and insulate this great core the oilers have. you dont have to give up much to make this team that much better.

but i can tell youre an angry person. take these forums more seriously. i would love for you to talk to me like that to my face bro. its nice seeing people act tough and sassy on a comp. when to be honest it still shows how weak and sad youre as a person...

keep up the good wrk bro
- munky123

My god your a tool. You keep coming on here spewing your crap and expect to be taken seriously? Always with the trolling and you expect a different response? Keep up the tough guy act.

Richard Cloutier: Ben, the Two of Us Need Look No More
- Maxbone

"I didn't realize the guy had so little value."
This is a common theme when it comes to how you value Oiler players.

I can say with as much certainty that they're available as you can that they're not available. Zilch either way, as we're not insiders.

- Philly is up against the cap. Wouldn't surprise me to see a guy like Mezaros go.
- NY Rangers are also up there with McDonagh still to re-sign. Staal or Del Zotto could be on the move.
- Boyle, Oduya, Bouwmeester and Campbell all have bloated contracts. They could go.
- Buffalo has a log-jam of defensemen, so a guy like Sekera could be traded.

That's all pure speculation. But not every player demands to be traded like Rick Nash. We're not going to know someone was available until a trade happens. If in a hypothetical world there's a dman available around draft time, and the cost includes a 1st round pick, Tambs would be foolish not to consider it.
- Morris

exactly!

thanks for actually responding with intellegence.

the only part that im confused with regards to the realignment is how a team like the nordiques could be penciled in, unless like morris pointed out, a florida team could be dropped.

was looking at the stats last night, cant believ how tight the west is. still i think when it comes to depth and gritty teams, the east takes it. actually that was more valid last year, seeing as philly has dropped of the face of the earth. nyr is a shadow of the team last year.

team to watch tho, a resurgance if you will is a healthy ottawa. that team is what the oilers should be modeled after.. perfect blend of young and vets.. scary how good they are with all those injuries. (frank)ing incredible coaching astaff too
- munky123

I was thinking about East vs West today while looking at the standings. Being that they didn't get a chance to do inter-conference games this year with the tight scheduling, I think there's a very real possibility that the cup finals could be a 4-1 or 4-0 series.

We have no idea who's better or worse as a conference. We can only assume that Chicago, Pittsburgh, Anaheim and Montreal are among the best teams this year, but we have no idea who's better: Vancouver or Ottawa? Boston or LA? It could make for a very exciting - or very disappointing playoffs.

thanks for actually responding with intellegence.

the only part that im confused with regards to the realignment is how a team like the nordiques could be penciled in, unless like morris pointed out, a florida team could be dropped.

was looking at the stats last night, cant believ how tight the west is. still i think when it comes to depth and gritty teams, the east takes it. actually that was more valid last year, seeing as philly has dropped of the face of the earth. nyr is a shadow of the team last year.

team to watch tho, a resurgance if you will is a healthy ottawa. that team is what the oilers should be modeled after.. perfect blend of young and vets.. scary how good they are with all those injuries. (frank)ing incredible coaching astaff too
- munky123

It's what I do (except when I'm being a moron - we all have our moments)!

The realignment does seem to infer that the League expects expansion, yet the most logical markets to expand to are in the East. I know that the League values one American dollar about as much as three Canadian dollars (which is not entirely unreasonable considering that "growing the sport" means "expanding into America" but sure is frustrating) but beyond that I don't know what these morons are up to. I guess in 5 years they'll realign again and a couple of Eastern teams will draw the short straw and end up in the West.

I'd love to see Edmonton and Ottawa meet up in the Finals in a few years. I'm not saying that's likely, just that I'd like to see it! Ottawa's overachieving in the face of injury contrasts really well with Edmonton's underachieving in the face of... no particular adversity. When the team believes, it makes a big difference. I hope someday soon that the Oilers will start to believe!

Unfortunately for Edmonton fans in a short season this team is doing a bit too well to qualify for another first overall or maybe even a top 10 pick, yet are not doing well enough yet to warrant a playoff birth.

It's going to be a strange off season for you with no sure thing elite prospect waiting to be plucked from the draft and inserted directly into the Oiler line up. Oilers are going to actually have to develop a player or two. Might be just what they need. Let the young guys develop without inserting another wet behind the ears pup directly into the starting line up.
- MnGump

*grabs some popcorn*