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opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 14 @ 9:46 PM ET
Both annoyed me, as a LOTR fan. However, judging them just as movies, they're fantastic. Jackson truly captured the spirit of the Shire, at any rate. After leaving the Shire is where he missed marks of Tolkien's work - mostly his themes.
- Flyskippy



No doubt but he couldn't go in and make a fanboy type trilogy. Maybe hardcore fans like us would have wished for Tom to be in it but the reality of it is, neither he nor the scouring was needed to convey the story to the masses.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 9:47 PM ET
Both annoyed me, as a LOTR fan. However, judging them just as movies, they're fantastic. Jackson truly captured the spirit of the Shire, at any rate. After leaving the Shire is where he missed marks of Tolkien's work - mostly his themes.
- Flyskippy


I think Jackson has done a good job, at least from my reading of the books there is so much involved. Hard to get it all into a movie. Books just have an ability to make people think in ways movies never can imo.

I do not like that the unexpected journey (hobbit) was in 3D. I waited a couple weeks to see it without those stupid glasses. Despise 3D.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 14 @ 9:49 PM ET
Everyone is on the table for the right price. However, try to get a 3,4 and 5 for Briere, gagne, Feds. Any combo.
- jstross


Blasphemer!
Pitbull , Giroux and Voracek should not be on the table unless you are getting Citibank climbing chick for them.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 14 @ 9:55 PM ET
He has turned into a very good goalie in Columbus. He gives them a chance to win every night.
- Oneonta Penguin


Most thought he'd be a solid goalie I thought? If you're not going to use him though the picks were a good return.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 14 @ 9:58 PM ET
Blasphemer!
Pitbull , Giroux and Voracek should not be on the table unless you are getting Citibank climbing chick for them.

- opeth_pa

So you wouldn't trade G for Weber, renna, a 1st and cap relief?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 9:59 PM ET
Everyone is on the table for the right price. However, try to get a 3,4 and 5 for Briere, gagne, Feds. Any combo.
- jstross


That is true, if someone makes you an offer you can't refuse, take it. But the only player I'd be looking to trade at the deadline is Briere.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 10:00 PM ET
So you wouldn't trade G for Weber, renna, a 1st and cap relief?
- jstross


What do you mean by Cap relief?
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:02 PM ET
In keeping with the current conversation. I'm still pissed about the 1969 NHL entry Draft when the Flyers chose Bob Currier. I really wanted them to take Ivan Boldirev. Still haven't gotten over it. And they also screwed up in rounds 3 and 4 by not taking Butch Goring. This Organization will never learn.
- MJL

this is funny
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:02 PM ET
so is Bobs still susceptible to high glove shots?
he was always a wizard going from post to post in record speed.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:05 PM ET
I really liked Children of Hurin. To flesh out the story from the Silmarillion and present a tragedy to the Middle Earth milieu made the backstory of Lord of the Rings all the more stronger, IMO. One could feel Frodo's contemporaries' empathy of these characters more after reading it.
- Flyskippy

is this written by JRR or someone else?

edit

G with the hattie!
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 14 @ 10:16 PM ET
its getting to the point where i'd rather have Evander Kane than Pat Kane...
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 14 @ 10:18 PM ET
He has turned into a very good goalie in Columbus. He gives them a chance to win every night.
- Oneonta Penguin


I really liked Bobo. I was sorry the feeling wasn't mutual.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
Mike Richards couldn't score either in his 2nd Season!

- MJL


youarewrong

Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
Ahhh, I'm just still grouchy that the Flyers picked Ron Sutter over Scott Stevens.
- 77rams


Don't forget the Adam Oates deal
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
What do you mean by Cap relief?
- MJL

Taking an over paid player. For example : id trade G and Bryz for Weber and PR in a heart beat.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
I realize Nashville wouldn't touch that deal.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 14 @ 10:30 PM ET
Jets outplaying NYR, but king is holding the fort. kane gets breakaway that would have been a goal against most other goalies...
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 14 @ 10:32 PM ET
what's this about blaming the players? previously we blamed stevens got rid of him
then blamed the players got rid of them now we're back to square one? wtf can anyone explain?
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:33 PM ET
So much Tolkien talk..it's great..

I have a pic from his gravesite and a Rings inspired tattoo on one of my shoulders.

Finally I read either the full 3 books or some selection of the history every summer.

- opeth_pa


I am on Weathertop right now. M. F'in Black Riders are closing in from the east and west. Frodo just got done whining about his burden and now Strider is telling elf stories by the firelight.

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 14 @ 10:34 PM ET
Tortarella just might stroke out and die tonite...NYR lose to WPG...
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:38 PM ET
Really looking forward to the desolation of smaug.

Dwarves were by far my favourite race in all of middle earth. The scene with Gimli blowing the horn of helm hammerhand always sends chills down my back.

- flyer_nutter



Honestly, I thought the first installation of the Hobbit movie blew. I saw the 3d version, and to me, the whole thing just seemed like a one excuse after another to CGI the poop out of something. Disliked it so much, I was inspired to read the book again to wipe the thing out of my mind. (I also really wanted to read it to my 3.5 year old).

Have you guys seen the 2D version? I am tempted to give it another chance in 2D...but I'll be pretty frustrated if I have to go back and hit the book again before I finish LOTR. As I mentioned to Skip last night, Unfinished Tales is next on my list. Never read it and the back stories in there seem intriguing.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 14 @ 10:39 PM ET
It would not surprise me if an attempt is made on Obama's life during this upcoming M.E. visit...tensions are very high...ok, back to hockey...
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 14 @ 10:40 PM ET
Silly question: if you could somehow do the following would you?

Trade Briere, gagne and Feds for a 3, 4, 5
Sign perry 6/$45
Trade a top 7 pick, couts, 2014#1, Gus for weber

Go from there
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 14 @ 10:40 PM ET
It would not surprise me if an attempt is made on Obama's life during this upcoming M.E. visit...tensions are very high...ok, back to hockey...
- isaiah520

well hard working people are tired of him taking their money and giving it to the lazy
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 14 @ 10:41 PM ET
Silly question: if you could somehow do the following would you?

Trade Briere, gagne and Feds for a 3, 4, 5
Sign perry 6/$45
Trade a top 7 pick, couts, 2014#1, Gus for weber

Go from there

- jstross

yes to the 1st nope nope nope and nope to the 2nd
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