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ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 7:55 PM ET
Thanks Obama
- Flyskippy



ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 7:57 PM ET
Laughton with former Oshawa teammate Tyler Biggs (Maple Leafs) at the OHL Cup Banquet



aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 14 @ 7:59 PM ET

- BulliesPhan87

aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Mar 14 @ 7:59 PM ET
Laughton with former Oshawa teammate Tyler Biggs (Maple Leafs) at the OHL Cup Banquet




- ob18

needs to beef up if he ever wants to make it in the big leagues.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:01 PM ET
needs to beef up if he ever wants to make it in the big leagues.
- aightwebang17


Laughton is playing in Ottawa this weekend, drive to pass that info along
FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:04 PM ET
Found a solid explanation of how the playoffs work:

The Stanley Cup Playoffs will still consist of 16 teams, eight in each conference, but it will be division-based and a wild-card system has been added.

The top three teams in each division will make up the first 12 teams in the playoffs. The remaining four spots will be filled by the next two highest-placed finishers in each conference, based on regular-season points and regardless of division. It will be possible, then, for one division to send five teams to the postseason while the other sends three.

The seeding of the wild-card teams within each divisional playoff will be determined on the basis of regular-season points. The division winner with the most points in the conference will be matched against the wild-card team with the fewest points; the division winner with the second-most points in the conference will play the wild-card team with the second fewest points.

The teams finishing second and third in each division will play in the first round of the playoffs. The winners of each series will play for berths in the conference championship series.
(from nhl.com)

So using these:
Div 1
Boston: 120P (these wont be accurate so just go with me)
Montreal: 110P
Detroit: 105P
Toronto: 97P

Div 2
NYR: 122P
Pittsburgh: 112P
Philly: 103P
NJD: 99P

Playoffs would be:
NYR vs. Toronto
Boston vs. NJD
Montreal vs. Detroit
Pittsburgh vs. Philly
so no matter what, 2 will ALWAYS face 3 in their division in the playoffs as long as this plan is the same.
Now say TO Doesnt make it, and Carolina does (they're in Div 2), with 98 points:
NYR vs. Canes
Boston vs. NJD
Mon vs. Det, Philly vs. Pitts

Meh. I dont care for that. *shrug*
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Mar 14 @ 8:04 PM ET
Homer gives Laviolette a vote of confidence today...


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:08 PM ET
Homer gives Laviolette a vote of confidence today...


- 77rams



Fixed
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 14 @ 8:08 PM ET

- aightwebang17

The running hose is a nice touch


ok, last one from me
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 14 @ 8:11 PM ET

- aightwebang17

tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:12 PM ET
No one's made any "Thanks Laviolette" gifs?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 14 @ 8:13 PM ET
The running hose is a nice touch


ok, last one from me

- BulliesPhan87

Same here.

isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 14 @ 8:17 PM ET
Seems like they signed a buch of hard working guys so I'm down with what they are doing they got rid of all the cancers they had soooo...
- griouxmvp2012

they have to build this thing piece by piece. no use splurging in the FA mkt in the NFL unless you're close or signing a QB, which is pretty rare. they mostly plucked guys from winning orgs and sent the quitter dogs packing. that's a start.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:19 PM ET
Found a solid explanation of how the playoffs work:

The Stanley Cup Playoffs will still consist of 16 teams, eight in each conference, but it will be division-based and a wild-card system has been added.

The top three teams in each division will make up the first 12 teams in the playoffs. The remaining four spots will be filled by the next two highest-placed finishers in each conference, based on regular-season points and regardless of division. It will be possible, then, for one division to send five teams to the postseason while the other sends three.

The seeding of the wild-card teams within each divisional playoff will be determined on the basis of regular-season points. The division winner with the most points in the conference will be matched against the wild-card team with the fewest points; the division winner with the second-most points in the conference will play the wild-card team with the second fewest points.

The teams finishing second and third in each division will play in the first round of the playoffs. The winners of each series will play for berths in the conference championship series.
(from nhl.com)

So using these:
Div 1
Boston: 120P (these wont be accurate so just go with me)
Montreal: 110P
Detroit: 105P
Toronto: 97P

Div 2
NYR: 122P
Pittsburgh: 112P
Philly: 103P
NJD: 99P

Playoffs would be:
NYR vs. Toronto
Boston vs. NJD
Montreal vs. Detroit
Pittsburgh vs. Philly
so no matter what, 2 will ALWAYS face 3 in their division in the playoffs as long as this plan is the same.
Now say TO Doesnt make it, and Carolina does (they're in Div 2), with 98 points:
NYR vs. Canes
Boston vs. NJD
Mon vs. Det, Philly vs. Pitts

Meh. I dont care for that. *shrug*

- FLYERSROCK!


IT'S GARBAGE AND I HATE IT
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 14 @ 8:22 PM ET
No one's made any "Thanks Laviolette" gifs?
- tangent_man

We need to get that added to the gif of the MMA fighter uppercutting into his own face
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Mar 14 @ 8:30 PM ET
just for kicks....what do people think holmgren could get for coburn if he decided to trade him (assume he'd be willing to go to a decent team)? what teams would be interested?

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 14 @ 8:44 PM ET
just for kicks....what do people think holmgren could get for coburn if he decided to trade him (assume he'd be willing to go to a decent team)? what teams would be interested?
- FlyerMike18

A mid round pick
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:46 PM ET
This explains so much.
- tangent_man

opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 14 @ 8:46 PM ET
just for kicks....what do people think holmgren could get for coburn if he decided to trade him (assume he'd be willing to go to a decent team)? what teams would be interested?
- FlyerMike18



I really dont see a reason to trade coburn..He had a solid season last year, not so much this year.. He is young and can skate and is a valid 3/4.

They should be more focused on finding a 1/2 dman then trading away 3/4.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 14 @ 8:47 PM ET
just for kicks....what do people think holmgren could get for coburn if he decided to trade him (assume he'd be willing to go to a decent team)? what teams would be interested?
- FlyerMike18

a third rounder who would turn into someone else we'd complain about.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 14 @ 8:48 PM ET
just for kicks....what do people think holmgren could get for coburn if he decided to trade him (assume he'd be willing to go to a decent team)? what teams would be interested?
- FlyerMike18


Not sure, I do know that I'd actively shop Danny Briere, Simon Gagne and Rusty Fedotenko and listen to offers for Scott Hartnell, Max Talbot, Bryadon Coburn and Andrej Meszaros.

Not that I'd trade the latter four, but I'd be interested to see what I could get in return
sulshawn
Joined: 07.28.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:51 PM ET
just for kicks....what do people think holmgren could get for coburn if he decided to trade him (assume he'd be willing to go to a decent team)? what teams would be interested?
- FlyerMike18


Coburn is a 28 year old top 4 defenseman who is locked up for a few years at a solid cap figure. I would think Ottawa, Detroit, St. Louis, Columbus if they remain in the hunt could be potential suitors.

Coburn should be able to net a 1st round and a young player (not a hot prospect) but decent contributor. I just don't know if moving him would be a good thing for this defense corps. Who's replacing him?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:52 PM ET
Not sure, I do know that I'd actively shop Danny Briere, Simon Gagne and Rusty Fedotenko and listen to offers for Scott Hartnell, Max Talbot, Bryadon Coburn and Andrej Meszaros.

Not that I'd trade the latter four, but I'd be interested to see what I could get in return

- Jsaquella


I've never been more split on the future of Meszaros and Coburn on this team going forward. Coburn has run as hot and cold as the team has ever since his arrival.

D-men are hard to replace, but I kind of would like to see changes there.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 14 @ 8:54 PM ET
a third rounder who would turn into someone else we'd complain about.
- FlyerGuy


I've never been to a game in Philly but I do wonder what the atmosphere is at the games.

Seems a lot quieter on TV than in years past. Lot of complaining?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 14 @ 8:58 PM ET
I've never been more split on the future of Meszaros and Coburn on this team going forward. Coburn has run as hot and cold as the team has ever since his arrival.

D-men are hard to replace, but I kind of would like to see changes there.

- flyer_nutter

I think Coburn's game suffered after he was hit in the eye in the 2008 playoffs. He seemed to become less aggressive, to me, both in terms of carrying the puck with confidence up ice, being physical (though Grossmann's partnership seemed to bring a bit of that back), and being an offensive threat.
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