Too busy buddy, I just came in to show my support to your blog.
- bixll

Much appreciated just the same! Hows things?

Too busy buddy, I just came in to show my support to your blog.


Edit: Feel bad, so I will read it when I get home, some of us work, ya know.
- bixll

Quit trolling this guy Colin

Blues aren't interested in trading Berglund. If they did, it would need to be an overpayment, and even then picks/prospects aren't what would be appealing to them, unless you were talking like JBo + 2013 first.
- Antilles

Just an idea.....what about JBO and KIPPER to St.Lou???

Blues aren't interested in trading Berglund. If they did, it would need to be an overpayment, and even then picks/prospects aren't what would be appealing to them, unless you were talking like JBo + 2013 first.
- Antilles

I think the offer I made was an overpayment. Your offer is just putting Berglund too high. I love him, but JBo AND a 1st is ridiculous.

Quit trolling this guy Colin
- The-O-G

I agree, I have work to get around doing.

Dude, this trade makes you guys the favourite for the cup. At some point you need to make the hard decision and go for it. This is mutally beneficial. In the long run CGY wins this trade, but how do you argue with making a trade that helps win you the cup? Also, you guys have the room to resign Iggy.
CGY traded away Brett Hull and won the cup. Hull had a tremendous career but I would do the trade again knowing that it brought us our only cup. And please, don't argue that we "could" have won more with Hull. It can't be proven and likely we would have had to trade Hull because we wouldn't be able to afford him as the hard times were about to hit the Canadian teams.
- TandA4Flames

This makes us a team with 4 top 9 right wingers and only one top 9 center. In the system the Blues play, we can't just throw a winger to center and expect them to play well when playoffs start. Blues would be better off trading a winger for JBo straight up.

Dude, this trade makes you guys the favourite for the cup. At some point you need to make the hard decision and go for it. .
- TandA4Flames

We want St Louis to the Cup, then Vancouver would be the oldest expansion team not to win a Cup and we could pile on even more!

I think the offer I made was an overpayment. Your offer is just putting Berglund too high. I love him, but JBo AND a 1st is ridiculous.
- FLflames34

I agree it's ridiculous, but I think it would take a ridiculous offer to get Berglund from St. Louis. Your offer only included one thing that matters to the Blues right now, JBo. A pick next year and a second tiered prospect don't do anything for a team trying to be a contender right now and over the next couple years.

Just an idea.....what about JBO and KIPPER to St.Lou???
- The-O-G

Blues can't afford to add JBo and Kipper's salary to next years payroll, given the raises players they already have are in line for.

Too busy buddy, I just came in to show my support to your blog.


Edit: Feel bad, so I will read it when I get home, some of us work, ya know.
- bixll

Hey no worries, I appreciate the odd comment here and there. And I hear ya...it gets tough to comment/post blogs for me during the day too what with work and all getting in the way. Thankfully I write most of the blogs the night before.

I agree it's ridiculous, but I think it would take a ridiculous offer to get Berglund from St. Louis. Your offer only included one thing that matters to the Blues right now, JBo. A pick next year and a second tiered prospect don't don't anything for a team trying to be a contender right now and over the next couple years.
- Antilles

JBo, Stajan (don't laugh, he is playing quite well this yr), a 2013 3rd and a 2014 2nd for Cole and Berglund and Mcdonald (salary dump).

Counter it if it doesn't work.

Honestly, despite the rumors, I don't see the Flames and Penguins as complimentary trading partners. The Penguins needs are (i) 3-rd liner that can help the PK, (ii) a rental defensive Dman, and (iii) a long-term (ie, at least 2-3yrs) W.

To be honest, Iginlia is a great player, but the Pens just don't need any more scoring. And with Letang and Malkin needing to be extended in the summer of 2014, Giordanio's $4.02M fo 3 more years doesn't fit into their salary cap structure.

The players on the Flames the Pens would probably want are Glencross & maybe Sarich. Better to build deals with them coming back to the Pens than Iginlia or Giordanio.

This makes us a team with 4 top 9 right wingers and only one top 9 center. In the system the Blues play, we can't just throw a winger to center and expect them to play well when playoffs start. Blues would be better off trading a winger for JBo straight up.
- Antilles

We don't need wingers. As for your line up, like half your team is listed as C on the hockey news. Guys Oshie play wing but wsn't he a C. Backes, Steen Sobotka, MacDonald..... isn't Schwartz a C? Do you need LW. What will it take to get Berglund? Iginla aside, what trade could we make in the off-season to get him?

Honestly, despite the rumors, I don't see the Flames and Penguins as complimentary trading partners. The Penguins needs are (i) 3-rd liner that can help the PK, (ii) a rental defensive Dman, and (iii) a long-term (ie, at least 2-3yrs) W.

To be honest, Iginlia is a great player, but the Pens just don't need any more scoring. And with Letang and Malkin needing to be extended in the summer of 2014, Giordanio's $4.02M fo 3 more years doesn't fit into their salary cap structure.

The players on the Flames the Pens would probably want are Glencross & maybe Sarich. Better to build deals with them coming back to the Pens than Iginlia or Giordanio.
- s0rcerer1984

Good post. Iginla would be a nice add with a likely low re-sign amount.
Sarich would be a nice physical #5 which can be tacked on the deal.
And Comeau would be the 3rd/4th who actually excels on the PK.

In return, Despres, Kennedy, and a 1st.

Blues can't afford to add JBo and Kipper's salary to next years payroll, given the raises players they already have are in line for.
- Antilles

They have lots of cap room though....and Kipper only gets a million in salary next year

Iginla to Pittsburgh for Kennedy and Sutter
Bouwmeester to Detroit for Filppula and a pick
Gio and Kipper + pick to Washington for Ovi and Holtby
Tanguay to Colorado for Statsny
Cammy and Stempniak to Ana for Perry
Glencross + a pick to Tampa for Purcell
Comeau + Backlund to Chicago for Hjalmarsson
- phycobillymac

WOW!

cukoo...cukooo...cukooo

We don't need wingers. As for your line up, like half your team is listed as C on the hockey news. Guys Oshie play wing but wsn't he a C. Backes, Steen Sobotka, MacDonald..... isn't Schwartz a C? Do you need LW. What will it take to get Berglund? Iginla aside, what trade could we make in the off-season to get him?
- TandA4Flames

Not trying to be a jerk, but given the Flames place in the standings the last couple years & age of their top guys, it seems like they need just about everything, especially when you are talking about young players for the long term, not just right now.

Sobotka is a 4th line player, when the team is healthy, regardless of what position he plays. McDonald hasn't played center since he was with Anaheim, and never under Hitchcock's system. Oshie hasn't played center since college. Schwartz hasn't played center since college, neither can be thrown there easily. Steen is much better as a winger, but he is already our 3rd center behind Backes & Berglund and just gets favorable matchups.

To answer the question what it would take to get Berglund... it would be along the lines of the trade for Johnson. We got Shattenkirk to replace Johnson though theoretically a downgrade, and got what we wanted in Stewart. We would need a solid center to replace Berglund, and something we were actually after like JBo. Obviously a 2nd line center plus JBo would mean Berglund plus someone like Cole or Russel. But I don't see a fit on the Flames roster for a center coming over. There is a small chance over the offseason, Blues might think they could move Oshie back to center and be willing to trade Berglund... but I just don't see any way it happens this season.

WOW!

cukoo...cukooo...cukooo
- Iggysbff

I think he was being sarcastic. At least I hope he was.

Hey, you know whats funny?

In the late 80's teams were trying to get the Stanley Cup out of Alberta, now days they're trying to get the #1 pick out of Alberta.

I think he was being sarcastic. At least I hope he was.
- whipper334

Maybe, but there was one good trade in the group that I liked:
Glencross + a pick to Tampa for Purcell

Lets get sean couturier from Philly!!! Theres gotta be a decent trade that works well both ways.

They have lots of cap room though....and Kipper only gets a million in salary next year
- The-O-G

Meh, I could picture the Blues throwing a draft pick Calgary's way, if Flames would take Elliott with it for Kipper. But given how he has played this year, unless he suddenly got hot, I picture other teams being willing to give up a lot more for Kipper than the Blues are, purely because we already have a goalie playing poorly that if/when he finds his game again he could carry us in the playoffs. (Halak.)

Lets get sean couturier from Philly!!! Theres gotta be a decent trade that works well both ways.
- bigbear89

JBO straight up!

Lets get sean couturier from Philly!!! Theres gotta be a decent trade that works well both ways.
- bigbear89

I'd rather get Colbourne out of Toronto. And it'd be cheaper.

Philly has a bad farm, they are not going to be as willing to give up Couter as some teams may for a similar player.

Good post. Iginla would be a nice add with a likely low re-sign amount.
Sarich would be a nice physical #5 which can be tacked on the deal.
And Comeau would be the 3rd/4th who actually excels on the PK.

In return, Despres, Kennedy, and a 1st.
- FLflames34

Understand where you are coming from, but the Pens aren't going to be interested in a [Despres, Kennedy, 1st] <--> [Iginlia, Sarich, Comeau] deal.

Most of the Pens price being paid (ie, Despres and the 1st) would be for Iginlia, who will be a UFA in a few months anyway. If he wants to come to Pitt then, great, as he'd fit in well with the Pens, but he isn't a need for the Pens at the moment; he'd be a luxery. Despres and 1st for a luxery isn't going to happen.

Comeau and Sarich, maybe. Kennedy could be part of the deal, but the Pens would also have to send a Dman on the roster back who is not named Letang, Martin, Orpik, or Despres. Would be hard to balance the value in my eyes given those constraits.

Kennedy for Comeau might be a more realistic trade when all is said and done.