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Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
And watch him go 2 Boston ?

I'm all for getting him as a ufa but it will be a blood bath outbidding other teams

- The_Vark


Its not all about money, 7-8M is substantial enough for how many years he wants to stay, its about where he wants to go. The money is a given I doubt hes greedy cough jagr
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
He would be the perfect winger for Kadri. Both little weasels (even though Perry is pretty big).
- stormey


Perry-Kadri-Komarov would be the most irritating line in the NHL to play against. They're all so chippy haha
HipHopisDead
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 10.28.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
Higher than Frason?... ya never said otherwise. He said "oppostions best players" which is laughable. Phaneuf and Gunnarson were the top pairing for most of year, and this shows that pretty clearly.

quoting from the article:

as an offensive defenseman

- Big_Lightnin[Gardiner] was protected by coaching from tougher defensive situations


Yeah I was just saying Gardiner played against higher quality than Franson.
Both had filled in blue circles I might add.

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Mar 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
were you also on the dump Kadri train? that was Full also in the summer
- senstroll


He wasn't. He was actually on my side most of the times I got into it with TFT about whether Kadri was strong enough to play in the NHL.

Its pretty cool how on some players certain guys agree on, and on others they go at it. It should never be personal though, and I guess thats where the refs come into it.
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
absolutely agree...

my "of course it does" was entirely sarcastic because of the poster who said it. He likes his trade ideas to favour the Leafs by a pretty homeriffic amount

- Big_Lightnin


I was agreeing with you
HipHopisDead
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 10.28.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
He did play against the opposition's best players but, only in the offensive zone. I've admitted my mistakes.
- Lipchitz


That's not what the report says
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yes. From what I understand it was speculation that it may be a deal that made sense more than a rumor.
- stormey

That's what I thought, Duthie is a pin head.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
He wasn't. He was actually on my side most of the times I got into it with TFT about whether Kadri was strong enough to play in the NHL.

Its pretty cool how on some players certain guys agree on, and on others they go at it. It should never be personal though, and I guess thats where the refs come into it.

- mykokes


Kadri was no where near as weak as what Ronnie had us think. And while we are on it what has Eakins done?

I'm all for young guys in the lineup if they can play at this level. I think Reilly will make us go "Jake who?"
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

Mar 13 @ 4:20 PM ET
I was agreeing with you
- Lipchitz


yup I know, and I agree with what you said... just pointing out I was also making fun of someone

I don't believe it's overpayment. It's what you have to give.
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
Kadri was no where near as weak as what Ronnie had us think. And while we are on it what has Eakins done?
- honesthockey

The guy that Kadri attributes to his success? Nothing I guess.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Mar 13 @ 4:21 PM ET
That's what I thought, Duthie is a pin head Wilson.
- LeafMan

-fixed.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
Leafs probably wont make any big trades this deadline except make space for gardiner and lupul. So trading liles and steckel
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:22 PM ET
The guy that Kadri attributes to his success? Nothing I guess.
- LeafMan


Really think that was Eakins? And that playing in the NHL he wouldn't have got there quicker? And even if it was all Eakins, one player?
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
Really think that was Eakins? And that playing in the NHL he wouldn't have got there quicker?
- honesthockey

I'm one of those that wanted Kadri up with the Leafs from the start, Kadri has high praise for Eakins so he must have done something for him.
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
Kadri was no where near as weak as what Ronnie had us think. And while we are on it what has Eakins done?

I'm all for young guys in the lineup if they can play at this level. I think Reilly will make us go "Jake who?"

- honesthockey


Or you have both in the lineup
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
yup I know, and I agree with what you said... just pointing out I was also making fun of someone

I don't believe it's overpayment. It's what you have to give.

- Big_Lightnin


Perry does it all, you have to overpay to get those guys. There is a dearth of front-line C in FA this year and there are a few wingers. It might make sense to target a C for that package instead. However, that deal may never materialize and if you can get a player like Perry, you do it.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:24 PM ET
Or you have both in the lineup
- Mapleleafs_91


Now that would be scary.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:25 PM ET
I'm one of those that wanted Kadri up with the Leafs from the start, Kadri has high praise for Eakins so he must have done something for him.
- LeafMan


Yeah I guess he would have said Eakins did (frank) all.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Mar 13 @ 4:25 PM ET
I'd like to think if we are using Kessel and Gardiner in a package for Perry, couldn't we get a 1C for that or a touch more? Shift Grabo to the wing.

JVR-1C-Grabo
Lupul-Kadri-Frattin
Macart-Bozak-Kulimen
Komarov-Mcclement-Orr/Mclaren

?

- markmark


This. So much this.

The wingers aren't an issue. Between Frattin, Kessel, JVR, Lupul, Grabovski, Kulemin, and MacArthur, I find it hard to believe we couldn't come up with 4 guys to play the wing in our top six.

Trade for Perry and we're still in the same boat, only with a better winger (who is also older and costs more).

I would hesitate to make any big moves until the #1C issue is resolved. Go grab Stastny for cheap and see what happens.

Gardiner for Stastny (seeing as Gards doesn't seem to fit, anyway).
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:25 PM ET
Really think that was Eakins? And that playing in the NHL he wouldn't have got there quicker? And even if it was all Eakins, one player?
- honesthockey

Kotska, Fraser, Komarov, Kadri, Frattin, Orr and Gardiner, he has done some good getting them ready.
honesthockey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Click heels twice and 1c appears.
Joined: 09.23.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:26 PM ET
This. So much this.

The wingers aren't an issue. Between Frattin, Kessel, JVR, Lupul, Grabovski, Kulemin, and MacArthur, I find it hard to believe we couldn't find 4 guys to play the wing in our top six.

Trade for Perry and we're still in the same boat, only with a better winger (who is also older and costs more).

I would hesitate to make any big moves until the #1C issue is resolved. Go grab Stastny for cheap and see what happens.

Gardiner for Stastny (seeing as Gards doesn't seem to fit, anyway).

- Leeman4Gilmour


Why does Carlyle have Bozak on the ice more then any other forward if he's so bad?
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
Kadri was no where near as weak as what Ronnie had us think. And while we are on it what has Eakins done?

I'm all for young guys in the lineup if they can play at this level. I think Reilly will make us go "Jake who?"

- honesthockey


like Mats made us go "Dougie who?"

I think you keep both, develop both... win with both
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
Now that would be scary.
- honesthockey


Not everyone has to be scary on defense. Was lidstrom a scary player now. Was pronger, yes. So you make guys who look scary play on their line. Those guys are our future. Guys like holzer kostka fraser probably wont even be around anymore when those guys are set in stone here
Lipchitz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 13 @ 4:27 PM ET
I would hesitate to make any big moves until the #1C issue is resolved. Go grab Stastny for cheap and see what happens.

Gardiner for Stastny (seeing as Gards doesn't seem to fit, anyway).

- Leeman4Gilmour


Statsny only makes sense if you can dump a bad contract like Komi in the process.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Mar 13 @ 4:28 PM ET
Why does Carlyle have Bozak on the ice more then any other forward if he's so bad?
- honesthockey


To paraphrase Homer Simpson, the two sweetest words in the English language: De-fault! De-fault!
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