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LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 13 @ 9:54 PM ET

"READY TO DO OR DIE TONIGHT?"

- isaiah520


And the Flyers chose, die.

Please end this season and put us out of our misery.

This team SUCKS
cdjaakkola
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 13 @ 9:54 PM ET
If they are smart, it won't take a long time to fix, though. But this is the time to set the foundation. Figure out who is part of the core moving forward, and figure out how to add the pieces needed.

There's a lot of talent, which has value in trades if they're smart about it.

- Jsaquella


You sure as hell know they`re looking at right now and I wouldn`t be surprised to see the axe come down quick to make the statement.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:54 PM ET
Honestly. How can lava make it through this season?
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Mar 13 @ 9:54 PM ET
That's only when the trade is looked at without context. Clarke did Sharp a favor because Hitchcock wasn't using him and there was no future for him here so long as Hitch was coach.
- Flyskippy


I know the context of that trade. If you properly assess a player's potential, that trade shouldn't happen whether you're doing a "favor" or not. The ball was dropped. I simply accept that sometimes that happens and you move on. That trade was just a comparison of trading a player who ends up being good for a player turning into nothing, and how that will never be what JVR for Schenn will become, because both players are good.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 9:55 PM ET
If they are smart, it won't take a long time to fix, though. But this is the time to set the foundation. Figure out who is part of the core moving forward, and figure out how to add the pieces needed.

There's a lot of talent, which has value in trades if they're smart about it.

- Jsaquella


Give Lava till Friday, if they don't win dramatically on Friday I think you fire Lava over the weekend, get Murray up, instill some defensive awareness and smart hockey sense. Go from there.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:55 PM ET
2004 and 2010 disagree with you.

EDIT: Leight - beaten to the punch by the son of Finwë.

- Flyskippy



opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 13 @ 9:55 PM ET
Honestly. How can lava make it through this season?
- Just5


let me fix that for you..

How can lava make it through this night?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:55 PM ET
Lots of folks come across differently online. I've been accused of loving attention.

I just love talking puck and having a good time here.

- Flyskippy



I think the first time I came here I said I was close to being crazy. I think Bo had it right when she talked to me one time. I'm a little fiery and crazy but harmless in the big picture.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:56 PM ET
come on, boys ... a goal a minute. we can do this!
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Mar 13 @ 9:56 PM ET
Let the selling begin
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
Give Lava till Friday, if they don't win dramatically on Friday I think you fire Lava over the weekend, get Murray up, instill some defensive awareness and smart hockey sense. Go from there.
- GirouxForTheShow


This is just my view but I don't think the coach will get fired.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
You sure as hell know they`re looking at right now and I wouldn`t be surprised to see the axe come down quick to make the statement.
- cdjaakkola

If I'm Snider, Luukko, and Holmgren, I'm interviewing players and figuring out who's a candidate for "ownership" of the team. Meaning, find those players that will hold themselves accountable because they want to be a part of the team's future. That is, their heart is in it. Anyone who seems to vacillate can hit the road.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
If they are smart, it won't take a long time to fix, though. But this is the time to set the foundation. Figure out who is part of the core moving forward, and figure out how to add the pieces needed.

There's a lot of talent, which has value in trades if they're smart about it.

- Jsaquella


What is that real core to you?

The people I would really be looking at keeping would be Grossman, Rinaldo, Giroux, Simmonds, Hartnell, 1 of Coots or Schenn and Read. The rest I could care less if they ever return.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 13 @ 9:57 PM ET
No one knew Sharp was going to turn out the way he did. You have the benefit of hindsight. How many other player for player trades did the Flyers make that did NOT burn them? C'mon.
- Flyskippy


Sharp had obvious potential based on his play with the Phantoms and was making very little money. There was no reason to dump him except to appease an angry coach whose shelf life was already running out.

Terrible trade.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 13 @ 9:58 PM ET

- hammarby31

That was a trade I didn't like. Giving away Markov for a pick.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:58 PM ET
I continuously build cup winners in NHL 13. I just don't get this
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 9:58 PM ET
You sure as hell know they`re looking at right now and I wouldn`t be surprised to see the axe come down quick to make the statement.
- cdjaakkola


Well I'd make a coaching move now for one main reason-It's hard to fully evaluate these guys in this system. Bring in a guy who will have them playing with discipline, in a system designed to suit their abilities, and then you have a better idea of what you have.

Also, the younger guys could really use a coach that is more teacher than motivator, and get them to fully embrace that good two way play means that they will be better players.

Barring a miracle, any change to "save' this season is like locking the door after the barn burns down
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 13 @ 9:58 PM ET

http://thehockeyguys.net/...-past-present-and-future/

...but we can always trade for dmen, of course...
LJF
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jersey Baby Jersey
Joined: 04.17.2009

Mar 13 @ 9:58 PM ET
I watched the first 2 periods in fast forward stopped after 2nd period, did Rinaldo come back after the knee on knee hit?
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Mar 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
I continuously build cup winners in NHL 13. I just don't get this
- Just5

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
All I need now is some Pitbull.
- shekkie

No, what we need is some citi rock climber girl
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
If I'm Snider, Luukko, and Holmgren, I'm interviewing players and figuring out who's a candidate for "ownership" of the team. Meaning, find those players that will hold themselves accountable because they want to be a part of the team's future. That is, their heart is in it. Anyone who seems to vacillate can hit the road.
- Flyskippy



awesome post
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
And the Flyers chose, die.

Please end this season and put us out of our misery.

This team SUCKS

- LJF

that character ended up in jail, lol
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
Sharp had obvious potential based on his play with the Phantoms and was making very little money. There was no reason to dump him except to appease an angry coach whose shelf life was already running out.

Terrible trade.

- Feanor

Bah, Peter White and John Slaney could have led people to think so and never translated it to success.

By the way, how are Fingolfin and Finarfin?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Mar 13 @ 9:59 PM ET
Yup. I don't mind losing when the team is competitive but this year its been a disaster. This team doesnt give you 60 minutes of hockey.
- stveshdy


There's no heart to this team. We're still missing the leadership of a Lindros, Primeau, Pronger, Smith, Hatcher, and to a lesser extent, Richards. And it shows.
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