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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:21 AM ET
I certainly would not do that. Now for Ott, that is a different story. But am not too sure on that either. JJ, Al ???
- blackhawk24


I don't think I would do a Leddy for Ott swap, at least not right now. Trading Leddy at this time creates another hole trying to fill a hole. I'd rather hold onto the defensemen we have right now, especially the ones who can carry the puck.

I'd be in support of a Leddy for Ott trade after the playoffs.
howiehandles
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.18.2010

Mar 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
NOBODY has said Leddy for Neil... That was just someone jumping to conclusions...
- JR1973



I understand that, and that's what I'm referring to. Leddy is probably the most attractive chip, as Stalberg is just another fast guy IMO. For the record, I'll also be happy to take some of those ex Dallas guys, Ribeiro or Ott. Although I'm sure they won't be cheap.
molly2522
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: long beach, IN
Joined: 07.13.2011

Mar 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
thats what should go down. We get a big, physical 4C under contract the next three years at a good hit who is over 52% at the dot this year so far.

We move a third pairing dman due for a raise when we have dmen to spare

- FourFeathers773


I think we have other brookbank type defenseman in the system to spare and only one similar leddy type defenseman and that is clendenning who is a few years away from playing in the nhl[ he probably does not have leddy's upside potential]
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Mar 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
First question: Stalberg definitely, maybe Frolik or possibly Leddy for the right return

Second question: Kruger, Johns, Danault, Teravainen, Saad

- John Jaeckel


If I was NJD and looking to deal Clarkson it would have to start with Leddy.

As a Hawks fan I would do that deal. Clarkson is a very good forward. Leddy seems to have similar players to him on Rockford . Is that true Eli ?
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:23 AM ET
With New Jersey in the playoff hunt, ( and as important as playoff revenue is to a shaky ownership group.) I can't see the Devils shipping off Clarkson. Unless it was for a player performing well at a reasonable contract. Don't see who that would be on the Hawks. I don't see it.

The other names are all very interesting. I think both Senator players and both Maple Leaf players would be good additions. Will be interesting to see the price on Klumein or Macaurthur is. I want to say Macarthur for a 1st was discussed last year.

The Duber rumors are odd only because I've been reading about how Duber is a hit in the locker room and has surplanted Jack Johnson as the new favorite to become the Blue Jacket captain. Of course, there's a rumor about Jack Johnson going to the Penguins so who knows....

- yahoodi



Look more closely, grasshopper. Expiring contracts, next year's cap, new contract demands. Methinks you are still operating on the premise that this is the greatest NHL roster in history also. Which it's not.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
Unless Bowman has decided Leddy is un-signable, that might be the dumbest move of his tenure.
- Holes02


Any trade of any significance, like more than a depth d-man or 4th liner, is going to invovleeither Frolik or one of the hawks impending FA's (who they don't believe will fit undernext year's cap—like Leddy or more likely Stalberg—going the other way. I have heard Stalberg is being shopped. I heard Leddy was offered for Lehner over the summer.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:25 AM ET
I don't think I would do a Leddy for Ott swap, at least not right now. Trading Leddy at this time creates another hole trying to fill a hole. I'd rather hold onto the defensemen we have right now, especially the ones who can carry the puck.

I'd be in support of a Leddy for Ott trade after the playoffs.

- EKolb13

Big picture move, as part of an overall strategy.

Like I mentioned in a previous post, the 3rd pairing would be weakened. SB would have to get the right piece to fit in there so the first 2 pairings are not adversely affected too.

Again, not advocating a Leddy move but the 'Hawks would be foolish to dismiss every trade scenario just because Leddy is a solid, young, puck mover.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:26 AM ET
If I was NJD and looking to deal Clarkson it would have to start with Leddy.

As a Hawks fan I would do that deal. Clarkson is a very good forward. Leddy seems to have similar players to him on Rockford . Is that true Eli ?

- mrpaulish


There is Clendening. That's it. He's nowhere near ready to step in and play in the NHL.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:28 AM ET
That doesn't apply here. Meatheads are not keyed in on Leddy. We all know Leddy has a huge upside but he doesn't make Chelsea Dagger play that much. And that's what the meatheads care about; how many times they get to dance any given night at UC.

It's DK, Seabs, Sharp, Toews, Hoss & Kane. Followed closely behind by Hammer and Bolly. The first group of guys are your "One Goal" primers.

- blackhawk24



I thought meatheads just liked fighting.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:28 AM ET
I thought meatheads just liked fighting.
- John Jaeckel

Did I just confuse meatheads with meatballs???
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
Hard to believe Leddy goes. If so determined to make a Cup run I think Leddy is better all around offensively than the player who would replace hin, namely, Visnovski.

I would not do this; however, if Leddy goes I say to Bry Murray give us both Neil and Z Smith and we exchange our late first round for yours, which could yield a blue chip prospect.
Visnovski shouldn't have a high price tag, unless competitive pricing is enacted. For an older so- so Visnovskij? Be serious! But that is how Chicago would have to look at the situation.

Oh btw Ottawa does not want a Stalberg.

- jhawk59[url]:


Murray tell you that?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:29 AM ET
Big picture move, as part of an overall strategy.

Like I mentioned in a previous post, the 3rd pairing would be weakened. SB would have to get the right piece to fit in there so the first 2 pairings are not adversely affected too.

Again, not advocating a Leddy move but the 'Hawks would be foolish to dismiss every trade scenario just because Leddy is a solid, young, puck mover.

- blackhawk24


As long as Bowman can replace Leddy with a similar player, then I have no problem with flipping Leddy.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:30 AM ET
I certainly would not do that. Now for Ott, that is a different story. But am not too sure on that either. JJ, Al ???
- blackhawk24


I don't see Ott getting dealt this year, period.
acmidd28
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 06.17.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:35 AM ET
I would give up as much as McNeil and a first round pick for Clarkson. He would be the Andrew Ladd of the 2013 club. he has all of those tools and plays so bloody hard. Just the ingredient this team needs.
JR1973
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Joined: 06.12.2010

Mar 12 @ 9:36 AM ET
What it may come down to is Hammer or Leddy for next season???

If its Hammer then you trade Leddy before the deadline and get something in return... If the Hawks want to make a splash, then they are going to have to give up something of true value in return....
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:37 AM ET
I would give up as much as McNeil and a first round pick for Clarkson. He would be the Andrew Ladd of the 2013 club. he has all of those tools and plays so bloody hard. Just the ingredient this team needs.
- acmidd28


As much as I would hate to lose McNeill, I agree with you.
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Mar 12 @ 9:39 AM ET
I hope you have a good supply of blood pressure medication to see you over the next three weeks.
- paulr


LOL, thanks Paul.

Serenity now. I am actually excited to see how this all shakes out. Not just hawks but league wide.

I see teams like Detroit and Philly wanting to buy, but who/what do they have to offer for some of the higher end stuff they want. Especially Detroit?
Kentxo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago
Joined: 09.05.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:41 AM ET
What it may come down to is Hammer or Leddy for next season???

If its Hammer then you trade Leddy before the deadline and get something in return... If the Hawks want to make a splash, then they are going to have to give up something of true value in return....

- JR1973

But I don't see a move involving either one of those two to happen until the off-season. Defensive depth in crucial for the Cup run.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:44 AM ET
LOL, thanks Paul.

Serenity now. I am actually excited to see how this all shakes out. Not just hawks but league wide.

I see teams like Detroit and Philly wanting to buy, but who/what do they have to offer for some of the higher end stuff they want. Especially Detroit?

- TrueGrit


Detroit has a few players in Grand Rapids that could be of interest. Mrazek, Nyquist and Sheahan come to mind. Jurco could have some value, but he's a project.

I wish Mrazek was in the Hawks system.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:46 AM ET
But I don't see a move involving either one of those two to happen until the off-season. Defensive depth in crucial for the Cup run.
- Kentxo


I understand what you are saying, but the 2 biggest holes the Blackhawks have now are bigger keys to a successful Cup run - Face-off winning center and a PP QB. I say sacrifice D depth to help the other 2 positions. The worst that can happen is you don't get the Cup either way.
JR1973
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Fort Wayne, IN
Joined: 06.12.2010

Mar 12 @ 9:46 AM ET
But I don't see a move involving either one of those two to happen until the off-season. Defensive depth in crucial for the Cup run.
- Kentxo


They could get better value now then in the offseason... We've seen how well it works out when the GM is trading with his back up against the wall...

Q will also most likely lean a lot more on the top 2 D pairings in the playoffs, then he is now... Is Leddy doing much only getting 10-12 minutes per game come playoff time? Or would the Hawks be better served to move him to fill holes in the forward positions, especially if its a guy like Clarkson in return......
hockey nut 28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Kansas City
Joined: 11.01.2006

Mar 12 @ 9:50 AM ET
Montador!

Seriously, there isn't much in the puck-moving department other than Clendening, and he isn't ready yet.

There is always Brett Lebda, who is currently in Binghamton on an AHL deal.

- EKolb13


So if we move Leddy, than next year we force a non-ready puck moving dman into playing, similar to what happened to Leddy the previous year?
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:53 AM ET
So if we move Leddy, than next year we force a non-ready puck moving dman into playing, similar to what happened to Leddy the previous year?
- hockey nut 28


That's if Bowman doesn't find a stop gap to fill what Leddy brings to the team.
Kentxo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago
Joined: 09.05.2009

Mar 12 @ 9:53 AM ET
They could get better value now then in the offseason... We've seen how well it works out when the GM is trading with his back up against the wall...

Q will also most likely lean a lot more on the top 2 D pairings in the playoffs, then he is now... Is Leddy doing much only getting 10-12 minutes per game come playoff time? Or would the Hawks be better served to move him to fill holes in the forward positions, especially if its a guy like Clarkson in return......

- JR1973


My opinion is that Leddy is priority #1 this off-season and won't be dealt. My theory is they put up with his growing pains so that they may have a super-talented, young, puck-mover signed to a reasonable contract as he blossoms into a special player. That and he was a "win" trade with MN, and I think he will be here for a while. JMO.
Tweek
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 04.20.2010

Mar 12 @ 9:56 AM ET
Clarkson.

yes.

please.

thank you.
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