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munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
Don't exaggerate. Great is a big word. They are a good team that is well coached. Their small skilled players are well insulated an yes if the Oilers did the same thing, they would be a playoff team.
- Champ



the 3 small players they have? deharnais, gallagher and gionta ...outside of that whos is small?
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
I can honestly say I am no longer envious of the Oilers and their collection of youth/high picks. I would take any of them in a heartbeat on the Leafs, dont get me wrong, but a plethora of youth with inept and clueless coaching/management isn't worth my jealousy. Boston, LA, Hawks, Pens....now im getting that sinful green feeling.
- systemtool

If the Oilers are following the "Chicago model" I would suspect Tambellini gets axed soon.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
Now is not the time to be trading RNH . His value went down this year. If you trade him wait until he is having a better stretch.
- VANTEL





He won't be traded.



VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
I can honestly say I am no longer envious of the Oilers and their collection of youth/high picks. I would take any of them in a heartbeat on the Leafs, dont get me wrong, but a plethora of youth with inept and clueless coaching/management isn't worth my jealousy. Boston, LA, Hawks, Pens....now im getting that sinful green feeling.
- systemtool



Yup . If they made progress it would have showed in the standings. I also think they have one or two key pieces only not 6 or 7
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:06 AM ET
Hemsky ISN'T worth a D prospect from Pittsburgh. Stop with the utter non sense. It gets old. Pittsburgh has no interest in Hemsky and his 5 million cap hit for next year and his inability to stay healthy.
- Oneonta Penguin


exactly correct.

teams in general, but particularly this year with the CAP going down come July 1st are not going to be able to dump players, even talented ones without taking contracts and $ back.

Edmonton, like other teams who have able players with heavy contracts (read Vancouver with the Luongo ALBATROSS contract) simply can't move these players for picks or futures.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:07 AM ET
haha and what tells you that they will? infact if they did i wouldnt be overly upset, they have a great gm thats proactive. also mtl is in the top 3 places players a; want to play b; love to play in. im not worried. Im happy the team is playing well, but tell me whats going to make them fall? it it because they rely on proce night in or night out? nope. injuries? what man?
- munky123


The roster.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 10:08 AM ET
cmon people... if you think the habs are overachieving you obvioulsly have blinders on or you just dont like the team period. the way the team is built is not to overachieve its built with character guy and the talents level is between a and b players. no superstars or individuals types, this is just a great team.

the reason for the fail last year was a poor coaching staff and poor managment. Players are human and if your work environment sucks, your attitude will suck. Habs are playing to their potential and its refreshing to see, most habs fans could se the potential, it just wasnt being handled properly. example cammaleri playing on the pk. firing coachs b4 a game trading players during a game... ill say that the biggest turn around was changing their player personel and bringing in martin lapoint, scott melanby and patrice brisboise. they really help the kids develop and stay oon course.

the team is in the top 5 for most stats and is probably in the top3 for speed. They burn teams with their speed and have 3.19 goals agame average. Are defensively sound and havent had to rely on goaltending to bail them out of games. how is that overachieving? its just the way the team is built... speed kills in the nhl and if you can add puck posession to that man what a lethal combo.

I can garuantee theres probably 20 players on the habs that the oilers would love to have play for them. its time to start giving credit where credit is due. maybe not this year but soon the habs will be true contenders. im beingsincere and not a homer ( if thats possible haha being a fan of the habs)

If the oil had the habs managemnt and coaching staff they would be in a playoff spot. garaunteed

also my man rutt, the habs didnt fail for 3rd overall on purpose. they had the most injuries of any team and were the worst run franchise... when bourque arrived to mtl , not one person was there to greet him and welcome to the team. the habs of last year is a joke, and classless

- munky123



i couldn't read pass the blinders comment, you can't honestly think your team is the best team in the east??

man there are so many (frank)ing donkies in this blog today, It's giving me a headache
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
i couldn't read pass the blinders comment, you can't honestly think your team is the best team in the east??

man there are so many (frank)ing donkies in this blog today, It's giving me a headache

- SpoiledByOil


He really, truly believes that. The Habs are so awesome they have 20 players you would love to have on your team.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:09 AM ET
The roster.
- systemtool



what?
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Mar 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
exactly correct.

teams in general, but particularly this year with the CAP going down come July 1st are not going to be able to dump players, even talented ones without taking contracts and $ back.

Edmonton, like other teams who have able players with heavy contracts (read Vancouver with the Luongo ALBATROSS contract) simply can't move these players for picks or futures.

- BorjeFan4Ever


The Oilers seem to think there's interest in Hemsky. People not from the Oilers seem to think there's interest in Hemsky too.
Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 12 @ 10:11 AM ET
haha and what tells you that they will? infact if they did i wouldnt be overly upset, they have a great gm thats proactive. also mtl is in the top 3 places players a; want to play b; love to play in. im not worried. Im happy the team is playing well, but tell me whats going to make them fall? it it because they rely on proce night in or night out? nope. injuries? what man?
- munky123


You're right about want and love to play in. When polled Mtl is the #1 place players like to come to play....against the Habs. They like the atmosphere. Montreal and Toronto were in the Top 5 teams they would least like to play.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 10:12 AM ET
He has before and does from time to time. Thanks for leaving early.
- systemtool



but to suggest he would get bumped off that line for Hemsky is just idiotic, 99% of the time he's on a line with Malkin, so he wouldn't be getting "bumped" anywhere genius
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:12 AM ET
The Oilers seem to think there's interest in Hemsky. People not from the Oilers seem to think there's interest in Hemsky too.
- Maxbone




Bless your soul.
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:13 AM ET
i couldn't read pass the blinders comment, you can't honestly think your team is the best team in the east??

man there are so many (frank)ing donkies in this blog today, It's giving me a headache

- SpoiledByOil


man, the results speak for themselves... beause they dont have any marquee players means they cant be first? they have 13 players with over 10 points... all 4 lines are playing well, doesnt that translate to succes?

BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:13 AM ET
cmon people... if you think the habs are overachieving you obvioulsly have blinders on or you just dont like the team period. the way the team is built is not to overachieve its built with character guy and the talents level is between a and b players. no superstars or individuals types, this is just a great team.

the reason for the fail last year was a poor coaching staff and poor managment. Players are human and if your work environment sucks, your attitude will suck. Habs are playing to their potential and its refreshing to see, most habs fans could se the potential, it just wasnt being handled properly. example cammaleri playing on the pk. firing coachs b4 a game trading players during a game... ill say that the biggest turn around was changing their player personel and bringing in martin lapoint, scott melanby and patrice brisboise. they really help the kids develop and stay oon course.

the team is in the top 5 for most stats and is probably in the top3 for speed. They burn teams with their speed and have 3.19 goals agame average. Are defensively sound and havent had to rely on goaltending to bail them out of games. how is that overachieving? its just the way the team is built... speed kills in the nhl and if you can add puck posession to that man what a lethal combo.

I can garuantee theres probably 20 players on the habs that the oilers would love to have play for them. its time to start giving credit where credit is due. maybe not this year but soon the habs will be true contenders. im beingsincere and not a homer ( if thats possible haha being a fan of the habs)

If the oil had the habs managemnt and coaching staff they would be in a playoff spot. garaunteed

also my man rutt, the habs didnt fail for 3rd overall on purpose. they had the most injuries of any team and were the worst run franchise... when bourque arrived to mtl , not one person was there to greet him and welcome to the team. the habs of last year is a joke, and classless

- munky123


how many of the players on the current squad are newly brought in by the new management team? are they playing the same style of hockey as last year?
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 10:14 AM ET
He really, truly believes that. The Habs are so awesome they have 20 players you would love to have on your team.
- systemtool




Champ
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 12 @ 10:14 AM ET
the 3 small players they have? deharnais, gallagher and gionta ...outside of that whos is small?
- munky123


Diaz, Plek, Bouillon. Just saying.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:15 AM ET
Im gonna quote you on that and when he ends up on crosbys wing you will laugh at this. As far as not being worth a defensive prospect your right. Hes worth 2
- Joshc



You are either dumb or delusional if he is worth two D prospects. You pick.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
but to suggest he would get bumped off that line for Hemsky is just idiotic, 99% of the time he's on a line with Malkin, so he wouldn't be getting "bumped" anywhere genius
- SpoiledByOil


That's right. Hemsky won't be bumping anyone from the top 6 on the Pens. Neal and Crosby play on the PP alot together. Theyve been on the same line a few times this season, especially when Malkin isn't going. As of now, Neal is on Crosbys line for their next game.

Let go of the denial. Embrace corrections to your inaccurate statements.
SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
man, the results speak for themselves... beause they dont have any marquee players means they cant be first? they have 13 players with over 10 points... all 4 lines are playing well, doesnt that translate to succes?
- munky123



no you're right, MTL is definately the best team in the East, and MIN is the Best team in the West because last year they were leading the West after about the same amount of games as this year

Homer
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:16 AM ET
He really, truly believes that. The Habs are so awesome they have 20 players you would love to have on your team.
- systemtool


man im in no way sounding the parade bells, im trying to point out that they are a great team. the stats are saying the same thing. why is that so hard to accept? also you dont agree about said 20 players?

the leafs this year are also agreat example of a turn around. breath of fresh air in mangment and coaching and the true talents of the team come thru. carlyl has them playing the system the team is built for.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:17 AM ET
exactly correct.

teams in general, but particularly this year with the CAP going down come July 1st are not going to be able to dump players, even talented ones without taking contracts and $ back.

Edmonton, like other teams who have able players with heavy contracts (read Vancouver with the Luongo ALBATROSS contract) simply can't move these players for picks or futures.

- BorjeFan4Ever


Exactly right. People forget the cap is coming down, not going up. Hemsky is bad value, especially for a team like Pittsburgh. We don't need him. Scoring goals isn't our problem. Then again, he doesn't do that. An expensive health risk play maker isn't a need in Pittsburgh. A good solid stay at home physical defenseman and a two-way third line forward is.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Mar 12 @ 10:18 AM ET
man, the results speak for themselves... beause they dont have any marquee players means they cant be first? they have 13 players with over 10 points... all 4 lines are playing well, doesnt that translate to succes?
- munky123



They will not finish first, they are not that good. Get over it.

SpoiledByOil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 08.09.2012

Mar 12 @ 10:18 AM ET
That's right. Hemsky won't be bumping anyone from the top 6 on the Pens. Neal and Crosby play on the PP alot together. Theyve been on the same line a few times this season, especially when Malkin isn't going. As of now, Neal is on Crosbys line for their next game.

Let go of the denial. Embrace corrections to your inaccurate statements.

- systemtool




haha ok buddy, Crosby is playing with Kunitz and Dupuis, because Neal played a few shifts here and there on the line doesn't mean he's a staple there, keep trying to act smart though like Neal is Crosby's linemate because of a few shifts here and there
munky123
Montreal Canadiens
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 05.10.2011

Mar 12 @ 10:19 AM ET
no you're right, MTL is defiantely the best team in the East, and MIN is the Best team in the West because last year they were leading the West after about the same amount of games as this year

Homer

- SpoiledByOil


haha only time will tell
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