The Leafs will be fine next year. Komi and Liles will be gone. The following year, Tucker is finally off the books as well.

GMMG (or his replacement) has a lot more to worry about than Nonis.
- Canuckleafer

How sad is it that Tucker hasn't played in like 4-5yrs and is STILL getting paid...

Why the hell do people keep saying buyout Ballard? The guy when used as he should be has been one of the bright spots this year. AV has given Keith the reputation of being buyout worthy
- claygolf83

Because....

Edler - 5.0

Bieksa - 4.6

Garrison -4.6

Hamhuis - 4.5

Ballard - 4.2

Tanev - pending RFA

Well, if it's any consolation, Ballard's 4.2 will be bought out.

That gives you 8 million with Malhotra,Raymond,Higgins,Lapierre,Alberts UFA's and Schroeder,Tanev,Weise and Sestito RFA's.

So you have 7 forwards, 4 d-men and your 9.33 million dollar tandem signed with 8 million in capspace.

Yeah....
- t_leafs21

Give it a rest, Vancouver will be fine.
Gilman is a bossss.

Because....

Edler - 5.0 LHD

Bieksa - 4.6

Garrison -4.6 LHD

Hamhuis - 4.5 LHD

Ballard - 4.2 LHD

Tanev - pending RFA
- t_leafs21

Exactly.

(frank) that, we wanna tank and become the new Oilers!
- Nucker101

Gonna be tough to be poop year after year, get top picks year after year, and still be terrible...
Leafs at least trade away their picks, lol...

Tell me about it, we'll have to be patient with the process to even get to the rebuilding process, first a couple of years of Calgary Flames 8-10th place finishes then hopefully they can start the Edmonton Oilers 3-5 year rebuild with lottery picks and be competitive about 10 years from now.
- Nucker101

Just don't do what the leafs did.

Wait until you finally reach the Edmonton Oilers stage and trade your first round picks during it.

Well, it's really all just speculation, maybe Gillis wanted that trade and Burke turned it down or the trade was agreed to and Luongo turned it down(but both he, his agent and Gillis deny this). If Gillis did turn it down and Luongo was willing to go to Toronto then obviously it loos like bad management right now, but at that time Kadri didn't look like he was maximizing his potential and Bozak looked like a 3rd line center for this team(plus they had Henrik, Kesler, Malhotra, Lapierre and plus Schroeder at that point and Bozak wasn't considered to be a big upgrade). Hindsight is 20/20.


Plus Gilman, the assistant GM is supposed to be a wizard with CBA loopholes and cap management so I'm guessing MG runs most of his moves by him so you have to figure that they're prepared to move either goalie and work with their limited cap space.
- Nucker101

You mean like forcing a player into retirement and telling him he won't be released/traded to resume his career elsewhere so he better just "trust us", 'cuz we think it's in his best interest to never play the game he loves ever, ever again.

What a CBA wizard!

I think I will take Gillis and Gillman's opinion on the cap situation over some random Leafs fan on hockeybuzz.
- Scooby_Doo

Why? They bullpoop more then the leaf fans.

Because....

Edler - 5.0

Bieksa - 4.6

Garrison -4.6

Hamhuis - 4.5

Ballard - 4.2

Tanev - pending RFA
- t_leafs21

stop explaining it to them

Give it a rest, Vancouver will be fine.
Gilman is a bossss.
- Whiskey-Tango

so who has to ask ownership for the permission to spend 50M$ on buyouts? is it going to be Gillis or Gilman? or their replacements?

Because....

Edler - 5.0

Bieksa - 4.6

Garrison -4.6

Hamhuis - 4.5

Ballard - 4.2

Tanev - pending RFA
- t_leafs21

Regardless of cap hit, your telling me there is no team that wouldn't take Ballard off our hands? I think since coming to Vancouver from Florida Keith has been a whipping boy and sure he has had his stretches of less then stellar play but show me who hasn't? The system and the coach has effed him up bigtime IMHO

Regardless of cap hit, your telling me there is no team that wouldn't take Ballard off our hands? I think since coming to Vancouver from Florida Keith has been a whipping boy and sure he has had his stretches of less then stellar play but show me who hasn't? The system and the coach has effed him up bigtime IMHO
- claygolf83

Yeah possibly. But he has 2 years left. I guess you could aim for a mid- low pick to a team like the Islanders that will have some cap to burn.

Gonna be tough to be poop year after year, get top picks year after year, and still be terrible...
Leafs at least trade away their picks, lol...
- BoBBeR56

Just don't do what the leafs did.

Wait until you finally reach the Edmonton Oilers stage and trade your first round picks during it.
- Scruffton

You mean like forcing a player into retirement and telling him he won't be released/traded to resume his career elsewhere so he better just "trust us", 'cuz we think it's in his best interest to never play the game he loves ever, ever again.

What a CBA wizard!
- DrChristianTroy

Yeah that one caught me off guard, if they truly cared about him then why let him play his first game back in a SCF against one of the most physical teams in all of hockey? Gillis and Aquillini definitely don't look like they're afraid to break a few rules.

Yeah that one caught me off guard, if they truly cared about him then why let him play his first game back in a SCF against one of the most physical teams in all of hockey? Gillis and Aquillini definitely don't look they're afraid to break a few rules.
- Nucker101

That tells me they're not as efficient with the cap as everyone thinks... and they're willing to be epic dirtbags to cover up their mistakes (which are starting to pile HIIIIIIGH).

Yeah possibly. But he has 2 years left. I guess you could aim for a mid- low pick to a team like the Islanders that will have some cap to burn.
- t_leafs21

Maybe, but the Islanders will have plenty to choose from when it come to taking on salary in a trade this summer. If the salary cap and floor wasn't going down next year then Ballard would definitely be more attractive as a trade option fr other teams, but IMO a buyout is pretty likely at this point.

That is what I keep telling myself.

The last time I though like that it was '08 and we all know how that season went.
- IanEsplen

Haha, yeah. I guess the shortened season is making every loss worse as well.

That tells me they're not as efficient with the cap as everyone thinks... and they're willing to be epic dirtbags to cover up their mistakes (which are starting to pile HIIIIIIGH).
- DrChristianTroy

Well that too.... IMO Gillis has gone downhill big time since last year with his "plan." I'm guessing the Hodgson trade and deciding to all of a sudden keep Schneider plus paying 4 left-handed defencemen over 4 million dollars per season was not apart of the original plan.

Well that too.... IMO Gillis has gone downhill big time since last year with his "plan." I'm guessing the Hodgson trade and deciding to all of a sudden keep Schneider plus paying 4 left-handed defencemen over 4 million dollars per season was not apart of the original plan.
- Nucker101

No kidding. If the canucks miss the playoffs this year. I want AV and Gillis Gone. CLEAN HOUSE!

Funny, I seem to remember you leaf fans getting all cocky half way through last season as well.

You don't want to jinx it now do you?
- Whiskey-Tango

you mean like you guys did with your two "top 3" goalies?

i'm meh to lindy ruff. why keep recycling nhl coaches? this isn't the cfl. fresh blood

There is absolutely no way that MG makes any moves right now (even though something needs to happen) just the reality of his tenure he is patient and calculated....Which may be the downfall of this team. Also they had better wake the poop up because if they are having problems this year just wait until next next year with their new division.

you mean like you guys did with your two "top 3" goalies?
- Feeling Glucky?

Our D is much more of a problem... nevermind Center......

Looks like Manny is being sent to Chicago to work with the prospects.

Our D is much more of a problem... nevermind Center......
- SMP8719

Wouldn't be much of a problem if they replaced one of the lefties with a top 5 righty, that' the biggest issue IMO. Even more hilarious is that both of the depth signings, Barker/Vandermeer are also both lefties just like Alberts as well.